Doesn't FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS deserve its own thread?

Cute. A streaming web/iphone music site:

http://galaxynewsradio.info

Three Dog clips get dropped in from time. I wonder if we can donate music there to vary up the playlist.

i went back to this and it's the best game bethesda's ever released, which is a mean thing to say i know. (new vegas > morrowind > fallout 3 > daggerfall > oblivion > not gonna bluff i've never played arena). bad facial animation and clunky shooting mechanics and maddening robot conversations between NPCs aside, i love their engine (their one engine, the one they've basically been refining since 1994). they should always get other companies to do their writing.

also muuuuuuuuuuuuuch better-deployed celebrity voice actors. dave foley! lt. rawls!

i love their engine

dont troll me bro!

the worst thing about gamebryo is that bethesda could be using id tech 5, instead of dragging the same horrorshow out of the attic and touching it up for game after game. modified gamebryo should be considered one of the most chilling phrases in gaming

new vegas IS fallout 3 afaic, and "fallout 3" was just some shitty fan mod set on the east coast. enabling obsidian to make the real fallout 3 is the only thing of value bethesda's done since morrowind.

lol, u are the morbz of rpgs. fallout 3 is your obama. which, if we are going to stick with political leaders, probably puts gamebryo somewhere between ceausescu and pol pot, which is fair.

haha, at least i waited until i played the game to write it off! and anyway morbs was right about obama wasnt he??

i was thinking purely of not missing a chance to beat the drum, but you make a good point, morbz at least has the excuse of being right.

oh hey, this is the thread where i welcomed you to ilg

comin up on a year m8 :')

bad facial animation...and maddening robot conversations between NPCs

Want to be excited for Skyrim but as far as I can tell, this is the stuff they still haven't fixed. :/

i am still managing to be kind of excited by skyrim, considering i never played more than an hour of morrowind and hated the living bejeezus out of oblivion

aaanyway, lonesome road is really good! i'm liking it so far anyway.

my only (meta) complaint is, do all their dlcs have to be 'deal with sententious gravelly-voiced npc given to pained expressions of gloomy moralizing'

skyrim looks dope idc what anyone says

bad facial animation...and maddening robot conversations between NPCs

Want to be excited for Skyrim but as far as I can tell, this is the stuff they still haven't fixed. :/

― JimD, Saturday, October 1, 2011 12:41 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

last i heard you could move around during conversations with npc and they can move around and do shit too.

i mean, that alone sold me on it.

(j/k)

nps still do the talking over each other thing though, according to a thing I just read in Edge. Plus the character models still just look kinda rong, in the way they have in all these games. But yeah, can't honestly claim this stuff is killing my excitement, the Skyrim environments still look amazing and that's basically what matters to me in an rpg (plus WOOLLY FUCKING MAMMOTHS yo).

can't be worse than battlespire

revisited normal NV tonight just to test my gfx card, and got hooked again.

Then I got to that point again where suddenly there were hundreds of outstanding quests and so i saved, for when i next play it in a couple of months only to forget all the plots.

if I'm thinking about the part you're talking about, you don't really have hundreds of outstanding quests. a bunch of those quests are mutually exclusive paths

Yeah, an upgraded card and finally switching to an LED monitor was what got me back into it again. Plus it was earlier this summer and OWB was just coming out, and I love the "SCIENCE!" weirdness that the game excels at.

This is why I don't like FO3 as much; it was lacking some of the tone/vibe/humor/what have you. While FO didn't have quite the same level of zaniness that FO2 did, it was still there. FO3 just wasn't enough in that direction, tho it had plenty other good design bits.

Maybe that's ultimately what FO is about; taking your mad max/boy & his dog post-apoc landscape and deliberately grafting it to and expressing it thru post-war 50's/midcentury americana kitsch. The balance of naive idealism & optimism coupled with paranoia that was Eisenhower/JFK America. What kind of historic kitsch era could you take from the UK or the Continent that would make it as memorable or as distinctive in this setting? Canada could work, as even in the game it was annexed by the Divergent America.

I kinda wish one of these games would be set in northern climes; the mountainous bits of FONV showed that you could do it( a little). Could you do wasteland post-apoc in forest & snow, or would it all turn into Siberia? Does Siberia even have any forests?

xp it was just after i'd done the yes man, and opened up more mr house missions. finished veronicas brotherhood area, even though a very strange moment when i thought i wasn't going to be able to leave the brotherhood underground base alive. Now I'm doing stuff involving looking for a platinum chip.

and omg great moment when i discovered that the laser rifle is freaking awesome for one shot kills on those annoying fish monsters from a distance. Must have wiped out a dozen of them for mucho xp.

and what's with the ED mission, where it says that he has some hidden recording. I was pretty sure i found the recording but it doesn't seem to accept it in the quest list.

Also, I'm trying to find a master list of sources for the games. These guys drew on a lot of pop from the last 60 years. Film + novels. Hell, I even bought an out-of-print copy of Zelazny's "Damnation Alley" b/c Avellone mentioned that as the source for "Lonesome Road".

I've read Earth Abides & Canticle for Leibowitz years ago directly b/c they were sourced for FO1/2.

although from what it's telling me I'm thinking of sacking the yes man, so i don't suddenly become wanted by all the factions

the ED-E quest is like the Arcade quest; having him tag along in your group when you talk to people will eventually unlock enough bits of his/its backstory that a better idea of what to next emerges.

ah right, so it's dialogue from someone else. gotcha

also i didn't actually get a new card, just had problems with updating the driver. got it sorted and was testing all my games. opened up NV and just couldn't stop playing, which was I'm really glad quite frankly. Love these games.

which was I'm really glad.

eurgh lol

also i think what veered me into playing today was after the cycle ride i took in the countryside, and came across an old WW2 runway overgrown with trees and stuff, and loads of rubble around it.

whoa. did you bring your camera?

Also, I just realized that I've had FONV-related screen names for an entire year now

i didn't but it's a difficult place to photo, basically just a huge flat area of concrete, with trees and grass and rubble. I tried taking pictures last year when i went but you just couldn't tell it was what it was. if you follow. That might just be down to my amateur camera skills.

maan i goosed up in this game today. played for like six hours this afternoon.

Reached the final sections before I knew what was going on, seems I took a wrong decision somewhere, ruined mankinds chances or something, thus failed a shit load of missions and all of a sudden I'm hunted down like a dog by Caesers legion. Got through the Dam, reached the legion boss and just absolutely no chance my guns are crap.

So replaying the second to last save point and going around the map trying to xp max out.

This game is truly awesome though. I've not even touched the gambling parts yet, I zip into the strip and out again to pick up or complete missions.

I really want to play it again, and maybe focus my attention on what's happening in the casino's. What are all the random cards that I keep finding? Do they let me cheat in blackjack?

oh man really

sorry, had to get my lol-noob reaction in

those cards are for playing 'caravan', the card game made up for this game. people around the map will play you for money. the shop owner and primm and the quartermaster at camp forlorn hope (?) are two that spring to mind

i really wish i'd plumped for speech, from what i've seen in YT playthroughs..

"Hey we're gonna blow that shit up and no fucker better stand in our way!!"
"SPEECH 60 - Please don't blow it up"
"SUCCEEDED - I guess you're right, me and my army are going home"

Yeah I beat the legions super boss by telling him to go away. Winner was me.

I am the jerk who gets pretty good speech AND high weapons skills and tromps around until my character is nearly maxed out. I think I talked my way into and out of Caesar's camp, and then went back later to kill everyone in it. Can't remember how I defeated the dude at the dam, though.

with skill books and dlcs you can max every skill

i hit that superbranching point in this where you have like 30 open quests 3 months ago and the completist in me panicked and i havent played it since.

also i always max my speech in these games - if nothing else you get a lot more storyline from NPCs imo

i have spent the last week going all in on supercompleting fallout 3, but i suppose that should go on the fallout 3 thread huh

i got to the point where i had done every single thing except the four endings. so i'm bashing through those. i've done the yes man and house endings, really curious about the legion ending.

Yes Man is awesome

I think I just ended it the one way, but should replay sometime. The lure of being in charge of my own destiny and having Dave Foley as a sidekick was impossible to resist

that was the one i gravitated toward, personally, on my first playthrough.

update! i've done 3 out of 4 endings. gonna blast through and do the pro-legion ending sometime soon, which i'm really curious about, as the NCR, house and yes man final sequences are functionally very similar. extra curious to see how the game accounts for the choices i've made along the way, mostly goody-two-shoes anti-legion.

i played through as an evil sociopath whose plan was to manipulate everyone in a callous quest to gain absolute personal control of the mojave, but i fucked up and ended up having to blow up hoover dam and rule over a useless patch of desert with low tourism projections. serves me right i guess! i just restarted as a humble wasteland doctor who knows how to use his fists. (if he has to.) (which it turns out he does.)

gonna be a total selfless followers-of-the-apocalypse-aiding activist this time, if only to get on JULIE FARKAS' good side. julie farkas, it's not your fiery compassion or your lab coat or your mohawk, it's all three.

lol

welp, you've all got your faces deep in some skyrimming, but i finally finished all four endings to this! i gather there's a variation on the legion ending where caesar is dead and the legate is running things, but oh well.

the yes man ending was still the most suited to me personally. the ncr ending is fairly straightforward and involves more required killing than yes man, interesting enough. the house ending is identical procedurally to yes man but you do it for a sick asshole instead of yourself.

the caesar ending sequence is entertaining and the most unique. there's a set of dialogues where caesar explains basic hegelianism to you. i'm sure there are a few ways to play the assassination (lol spoilers). instead of a climactic one-on-one battle, it ends with a climactic... crawl through a trapped-up office.

great game.

nice

you've all got your faces deep in some skyrimming

one last thing about this. the geography kind of bugged me. look at a map, between southern california and arizona is... not las vegas! that's farther to the north.

which is fine, but wouldn't there be a big ongoing border war along the colorado river? idk, i don't remember anybody in the game talking about fighting happening anywhere else.