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adam jensen is kind of a douchey character to play but alan wake is a pretentious whiner you want strangle.

very public (bnw), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

adam jensen saw the dark knight a few years ago and thought christian bale's voice was really cool and decided to talk like that for the rest of his life

Mordy, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link

Two things so far have confirmed for me "yeah, this is a Deus Ex game" (well, three things if you count the voice acting that veers from competent to jaw-droppingly shit with no warning)- getting told off for going into the ladies' restroom at work, and finding an apartment with a hidden saferoom full of ARMED LAND MINES.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Friday, 2 September 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

Jensen is basically Timothy Olyphant with the bat vocoder

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 2 September 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link

When I was successful -- such as when I snuck past a room full of guards in a penthouse apartment, and waited for the elevator while listening to them talk about how they were going to kill me -- I wanted to find somebody in real life to high five.

;_;

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 September 2011 09:09 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFe8hRy42o

oppet, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

I've completed this. I liked it a lot. The multiple endings mechanic was a bit crap.

oppet, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

that video is brilliant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

Those elements mixed together is definitely like a sauce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

i have the feeling that video is a damning satire of DX:HR but i don't know enough to say so

goole, Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

is that flappy black thing coming off the dude's forearm in the promo art supposed to be a... knife of some kind? that's really stupid.

i basically would love for this game to be horrible to save me money

goole, Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't played it either and I can definitely tell you that it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 8 September 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

finally playing this now, it's really fun. i love the metal gear solid-esque corporate espionage vibe.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think i'm especially good at staying unseen and finding the secret paths (and i totally missed the hostages in the first real mission), but i think i'm almost done with the first detroit part. got through the first boss fight thanks to the rocket launcher.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 19 September 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

the ridiculous load times kind of serve a purpose in the game, esp. considering how easy it is to die. if i start to curse at the tv, then the game is trying to tell me to find a new path.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

yeah im playing it too. it's quite good! probably game of the year, but i havent played Red Orchestra 2 yet (literally the only other viable contender). the most important thing is that it's the closest we'll ever get to another Deus Ex 1, which is why it owns. it's not as dedicated to the altar of player choice as the original, since it incentivizes certain play styles over others. i wanted to do an Arnold-in-Commando type playthrough, but if you're playing the bust-down-the-door route there's no way to play the game other than as a typical whack-a-mole cover shooter. you simply die instantly when not taking cover, even with all the offensive augs. so in my opinion it's really a full-out stealth game, not a game where stealth is but one of many viable play styles. but it's one of the best stealth games in years, and should make anyone anticipating Thi4f feel relieved. i'll probably replay it when i'm done to give it a full stealth playthrough. here's some random thoughts:

-no melee attacks - just cinematic takedowns. this becomes a massive problem with the game as it goes on. not being able to just fuckin HIT shit sucks. the pernicious influence of contardification strikes again
-i like that people reference real sports teams instead of fake ones
-its a stealth game, instead of a game where stealth is an option
-man on the street convos in china hilariously lunkheaded, wish i screenshotted more of them
-stupid fucking cinematic jumping animation means you cant aim where you land
-characters complaining about heat, everyone's dressed like it's winter
-frequently sacrifices thematic coherence for 'coolness'

here's some comedy screenshots i took: http://steamcommunity.com/id/buttcrazybird/screenshots/

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:54 (twelve years ago) link

running into emails from j manderley made me anticipate how every char from DX is gonna be shoehorned into hr - lil' gunter opens a lemon lime soda, it sprays in his face. he throws it away and swears revenge

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 22 September 2011 04:10 (twelve years ago) link

-stupid fucking cinematic jumping animation means you cant aim where you land

when I got this upgrade I saved and tried the stun like 10 times to get it to work once. never used again.

very public (bnw), Thursday, 22 September 2011 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

totally worth it to not die when accidentally stepping off a ledge or fire escape though.

i never played the o.g. deus ex, so.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

does steam do that screenshot library thing automatically for you? huh

i'm convinced i can't run this so i'm going to buy stalker instead

thomp, Thursday, 22 September 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

got through the second boss fight last night, both were really easy (possibly because i over-prepared due to their reptuation...lugged the rocket launcher through half the building for the first boss, saved up all my typhoons for the second one).

still really enjoying this game, except for all the loading.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

i really liked this for a few hours but the weird empty nothing-to-do city hubs and "make your own path" gameplay that turned out to be "1. air duct or 2. shoot everyone" and pointless upgrade system kinda wore on me. some of the levels are super hallway repetitive too, i just started slaughtering motherfuckers so i could get on with the plot. also batman voice.

adam, Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah all those things are true. but i still like sneaking around the buildings enough to keep me going (and the air ducts usually don't let you skip the guards completely, maybe they'll get you past one occupied room and deposit you in another one).

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

I kinda went into 'kill everyone' mode once I got on the tanker to antarctica or whatever..

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

I was v. tempted to lug the rocket launcher around for the first boss fight, but I didn't bother in the end, and got past him pretty easy by lobbing grenades and running a lot. Just started the not-Hong-Kong missions now.

Running through air ducts and and hiding from guards never gets boring for me. Putting a pistol through someone's head then hiding them in the air-con system fills me with psychopathic glee.

What's people's upgrade system? I'm saving upgrade points then spending them when I think I need a boost, but I don't know if I'm missing a trick by not spending any money on snazzy stealth upgrades or whatever.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Friday, 7 October 2011 08:16 (twelve years ago) link

mostly i waited to upgrade until running into something i couldn't do, like fall without dying/jump over a fence/hack something/carry something. but now i'm finally messing around with the cloaking, it certainly makes sneaking around less painstaking.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

h8 this stupid game that I suck at

(╯° □ °)╯did ✈ ▌▌ (cozen), Friday, 7 October 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

I suck at this game too, but it's great fun. Auto-save is my friend but it is also my nemesis, always depositing me in full view of a guard unless I duck as soon as my game loads.

The worst thing with games is when you don't know what the game wants you to do, and I'm finding that a lot with Deus Ex. I'm getting gradually better, but the multi-level map thing is still hella confusing.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Monday, 10 October 2011 07:40 (twelve years ago) link

/looks at loading screen

cozen, Monday, 10 October 2011 11:34 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, if it wasn't for the loading screens then I would probably have forgotten that LIMB clinics are open 24/7 for all my augmentation needs.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Monday, 10 October 2011 11:44 (twelve years ago) link

finished this last night

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 10 October 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

i love games where you can save at any time, especially in the middle of boss fights and before deciding on a forking path. i think this is the main reason i'm not cut out to play dark souls, like, ever.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 10 October 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that game sounds like masochism

lagerfeld of modern despots (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

this game (HR) is pretty great much of the time but yeah theres some dum dumb ai and whoa the racial stuff is pretty fucked tbh, even when i try to give some sorta combo of dudes watched the wire but didnt get it/maybe they dont have not white people in montreal excuse something comes along thats pretty O_O

its kinda weird re:difficulty too? like 80% of the time most of the difficulty comes from my own decisions not to just plug dudes in the skull and find the alternate way around the confrontation - but then there are times where the difficulty spikes a ton and suddenly yer staring at that goddamn whirly loading screen thing for half an hour until you just go play skyrim or something

blurgh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

what platform are you playing on? I don't think my PC is up to par, wondering if it's worth it on console (PS3)

mh, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

is this worth paying $20 to own on ps3? I have a copy from gamefly but don't have time to play; am half tempted to buy it and just keep it for when i have time/am paralyzed

Beezow Doo Doo Zopittybop-Bop Bop (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

(same question for mortal kombat btw)

Beezow Doo Doo Zopittybop-Bop Bop (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

i am playing on 360 - console seems to actually work pretty well. after being really into mortal kombat i lost interest and actually traded it in to get skyrim so idk

blurgh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

i think mortal kombat was my first understanding of the modern truth of fight stick or gtfo, the precision required was pertty daunting with a straight controller and made wins/losses seem full on random which is NAGL for fighting (and driving) games IMO

blurgh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

but yeah i am liking deus ex hr way way more than i expected to, i pretty much bought it in that "well i oughta be at least conversant wrt this" way but quickly became enamoured, despite the main character being a cardboard gritty half assed max payne. lots of the aug stuff is annoying because its really easy to hit a frustration point and just blow an upgrade on something useful RIGHT NOW only to find that its either mostly useless or else just leads to another thing to waste an upgrade on. the hacking minigame is just a time spammer nightmare with minimal strategy pretty much based on luck with pointlessly fiddly controls which is weird considering its just a button press. but yeah it looks great and theres some def effort in the atmosphere and vibe of the thing, although theres this weird thing where i keep hearing a woman screaming in the background like every 3 minutes or so that is deeply unnerving in a not well thought out way. as a whole though
(and note i have not finished it and am at a super frustrating point atm) it seems well worth $20 - idk if i buy the idea all the reviewers had about it rewarding multiple playthroughs, im pretty sure that i will be plenty done with this on a single run, but the good def outweighs the bad (so far)

blurgh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

eh, 40 bucks for MK and DE seems fair. Taking the plunge.

Beezow Doo Doo Zopittybop-Bop Bop (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

MK was easily worth $20 to me, just for the single player ridiculousness in the story mode

Nhex, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

Much like Saints Row, it's a really embarassing game to own, but a lot of fun

Nhex, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

re: the original

I got around 5 minutes into it. The first mission is to execute some random person without any reason given. Not my idea of fun so I quit the game without doing it.

re the first Deus Ex? that is not the first mission.

Mordy, Friday, 13 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

not to mention that when you get the dude in the first mission you're given the option not to kill him

Mordy, Friday, 13 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

get to* the dude

Mordy, Friday, 13 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

...and the original has a famously slow start. It was probably worth playing for an hour before quitting. I can't imagine playing it now tho.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Friday, 13 January 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

actually the original is kinda famous for how awesome that first level is...

Nhex, Friday, 13 January 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link


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