as a game it's unbelievably broken, but still somehow really fun - i dont know how it manages that. idk if the psn version retains the awful old localization, but it was pretty famous for being poorly translated back in the day (and again, somehow its still fascinating & awesome).
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
psp version is WONDERFULLY translated, brilliantly localized and actually makes the story sorta worth following!
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
quite frankly, you can get the psp for 120 and fftpsp for 15 bucks used; figure like three bucks an hour for what you put into it. totally worth it.
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
'team of bards/dancers' can be a very fun way to power through random encounters
i remember finding them ok @ controlling the flow of a battle (really one of the most impt things in fft) but tedious to use, mostly. why did you like using them?
rs - its a good game. i think part of what makes so many ppl love it is that i did come along when most na gamers were starved for sprgs so it seemed for unique/good than it actually was, but its still a really great game. its broken but also deep & it offers a variety of challenges for both an xp'd and a novice. also i do think it was one of the best rpg stories of any game of its era imo
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
playing it as a "walking around" game changes the grinding considerably btw.when you turn off the psp, it's like you've paused the game. turning it back on resumes immediately right where you were, so there's no real issue with grabbing five minute play sessions. that innovation alone made this playthrough much more fun than some past grinds.
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
haha its p sad how happy i am to be talking abt fft!!! i have to exert real willpower to avoid a v long post abt how great the oracle classs is & what the best passive abilities are...
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i ended up levelling everybody's chemist all the way early and then always making item the secondary skill so everybody can phoenix down or remedy or whateverthen lifefont for movement and instapotion and then got rid of all potions but xpotions so guys are basically healing full after every hit.levelled everybody up all the way through black mage, geomancer, monk, most of them through geomancer
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
u r among like souls lamp, let it out........
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
please make the big oracle post lamp
also i do think it was one of the best rpg stories of any game of its era imo
― Lamp, Friday, May 13, 2011 1:01 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
story-wise i dont think any RPG has ever hit all the right notes for me like this one did
maybe Deus Ex or the first Fallout - certainly no other JRPG
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i just found it funny that you could basically leave a battle on autopilot thanks to them - there were also a few funny times where i ended up barely scraping through a tough battle because i had a dancer tucked in a corner doing the HP damage dance or the random status dance
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
this shit right here is my jam foreverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdeHJKicmc
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
This song is just too beautiful. Makes me think of drizzle gently falling on green fields, while kid-looking humans and magical creatures fight for survival.tribilyan 1 year ago 26 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Imagine living in the ff tactics world. I would be a no nonsense rogue knight who wants to beat the crap out of the royal families and nobles with badass musicWillC 5 months ago
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
this is my jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azKaZUfPOJ4
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
haha lol @ me. the thing about oracles is that they have the best melee stats of the mage classes (iirc?) & their status-altering abilities are probably the most useful @ controlling the flow of battle & at isloating and sidelining enemies so you can stat-boost/jp milk/steal items/learn spells w/e reason you might want to prolong & manipulate an encounter.
also the combo of praise/doubt faith always you to mitigate the low base success rate of your more powerful spells, minor spells like blind & sleep are both long-lasting & effective, most of your powerful equipment can be stolen/obtained from drops early & you have a v useful built-in MP recovery system in both the drain spells & move MP up.
obv a time mage w/ math skill secondary & good spell book can break the game so hard but taking the time to master calculator is boring. in the same way you can build ninja/monk characters that are basically unbeatable but they have a hard time controlling the battle if you want to do anything other than win. oracles are both easy to master & versatile to use making them the best support class & one of the most interesting & fun to use imo
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
mediator's better b/c the sleep spell is called "Mimic Daravon"
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the most obscure of in-geek nerd jokes
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
never did figure out what the hell an onion knight was.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110109162822/finalfantasy/images/1/1a/FF3-NES-OnionKnight.PNG
― hillybilly death worship (absolutely clean glasses), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
thought for just a sec that surfing was LJ― And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:00 (2 weeks ago)
― And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:00 (2 weeks ago)
ha!
― Confused Turtle (Zora), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
did they rename mime onion knight in the psp port? or squire?
*crosses arms* the oracle's sleep spell has a better range & success rate
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
as a guy who relied heavily on crowd-control stuff like sleep i totally see where you're coming from lamp, but thats why i loved the dancer's random status dance - in one move you can have the whole board incapacitated
im trying to remember what other cheap-ass cc i would use, i think calculatin' was prob my main go-to for that
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
time mages can be really effective controllers too esp since haste/slow are almost always 80%+ manipulating RT is one of the easiest ways to slide through tough story battles since its so cheap
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
who are yalls favorite characters btw... im sure we all agree the shitty twins were the worst
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
also, what's your preferred chocobo:person ratio in a party
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i always really liked ovelia but only because she had such a sweet class *whistles*
i never use monsters in battle (except v rarely for the fun of mounted combat) but a character + one chocobo party is p cool
― Lamp, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i used NO chocobos at any point on this last playthruorlando breaks the game basically but damn he is a badass
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
'bos make good ridin, which is why i generally liked to tuck one or two into my party for characters who i need to be extra mobile
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc correctly there are a couple of maps where you need a chocobo to reach the buried item? or maybe a ninja w/ the +1 jump shoe could reach it? i always though it was shitty you couldnt ride the wolves, wouldve been p badass
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks for the thoughts folks. reading this thread is sealing the deal for me i think.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda love this thread even though i've never played fft
― adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
also forx: did you beat deep dungeon? & how many of the secret characters did you get?
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
on this go round, i made a real decision not to character grind or hunt for secrets or anything so i don't think i did ANY of the hidden things. i really meant to beat it this time!
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 May 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
so no cloud.
on my final playthrough i finally tackled deep dungeon and got every hidden character + ultima. cloud sucked :/
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
none of the hidden characters except MUSTADIO are all that useful (oh wait is beowulf a 'hidden character'?) esp because by the time you get that far into chapter four you probably have your preferred attack team already levelled up
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah mustadio owns
mustadiowns
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i found myself perpetually torn between fielding a team of 'names' and my loyalty to the footsoldiers who i'd been developing at the beginning of the game
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
how much of a pain is it to run psx roms? really want 2 play this now but dont want to deal w/ digging out my playstation...
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i think on my 'perfect game' file one of the stipulations was that you only had 'name' characters (which i think means you do get the three generics that youre gifted at the end of the first castle battle) & i h8d it. partially cuz it meant levelling rafa & retard since theyre one of the few name characters you get early on but also because i loved the sprites for most of the job classes more than i loved the sprites for the pc classes
― Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
lmao 'rafa & retard'
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this is totally making me want to dust off my ps2 and start a new game :/
I'm telling u guys: go psp
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ truth bomb
― Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Saturday, 14 May 2011 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
seriously with the exception of brink on my pc recently, i would say 95% of my gaming in the past like 12 motnhs has been PSP, and the other 5% is iphone!
Did they improve anything in the PSP version besides the translation, particularly gameplay-wise? Your suggestion to get a PSP and this game is actually kinda tempting to me, but god knows I've failed so many times to get more than 30-40 hours into this game. The grinding and random encounters and having badly built characters always killed my interest before I get through it all. If I ever do it again, I'm probably gonna have a major plan mapped out for the classes before I even start.
― Nhex, Saturday, 14 May 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Sold my copy of FFT and FFVII to some dude on CL when I needed dosh. Never really played FFT yet.
Waiting for PSN to come back up so I can get both for the psp.
on a related note, bought Ys I & II today for the plane ride home tomorrow. Let's see how long it takes me to beat 'em.
― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Theres new quests and local online pvp and coop, none of which got any use in my playthru.The retranslation is great and theres a bunch of new animated sequences that any fan will appreciate.
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Weirdly, the slowdown is still in play during spells
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Im gonna say this once more and then i'll stop: if you have fond memories of fftactics and u buy a psp and ff tactics, you will not be sorry
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
not all of us are carpeting our mansions in ipad2s here forx...
i found my old 'perfect game' save btw... p sickening how many hours i put in w/o finishing
― Lamp, Saturday, 14 May 2011 06:11 (thirteen years ago) link
is level 49 about right for your main character at the beginning of chapter three?
― it is a nine-dimensional exposure-based ** "fairy" faction (los blue jeans), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTbtl8_5agM
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
that's definitely a thing that someone did
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
4 more years
― Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Sunday, 12 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
there are so many great little details about this game that dont ever end up mattering at all
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Thursday, 6 November 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link
anyway i am playing this game again and really enjoying it, theres just so much stuff and somehow most of the battles are genuinely interesting to fight despite my having put like thousands of hours of my life into playing this game and understanding how it works
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Thursday, 6 November 2014 05:10 (nine years ago) link
shocked they haven't made an FFT2 yet.
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
favourite class: time mage. i like their hats
this comment traveled thru time from 3 years ago to be super OTM right now
i missed this thread :)
― Neckbread (Will M.), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
Haste and Slow opened my eyes to the idea of "power scaling" in gaming in general. As an 18- or 19-year old I expected each successive class unlock to present progressively bloodier and higher-damage skill and spell options. It felt like Time Mage took ages to unlock and was kind of pathetic,
it was only much later when I realized that there's a reason they don't give you Time Mage right away and make you work for it.
― fields of salmon, Friday, 7 November 2014 08:53 (nine years ago) link
secret hunt is the most busted ability in the game?
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Saturday, 8 November 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
they have! but they're for GBA/DS. i played the first one (Final Fantasy Tactics Advance) and it's fun but suffers in comparison to the original. they added a Judge system which is sometimes fun but mostly annoying. and the story (disclosure: i only played through about 12 hours or so) was pretty mediocre.
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 November 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
oh, duh, i'm sure you know about those. i guess you mean a sequel that takes place during the Lion War and isn't about daydreaming schoolchildren?
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 8 November 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
i liked the first ds fft but it doesnt have the same depth as the psx game
rn i am fighting the urge to manage my level advancement to maximize stat growth because i really dont want to fall down that rabbithole
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Saturday, 8 November 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
i thought the setup of the gba one was really affecting
it sort of felt arbitrary and failed to compel once it got to landmarks on maps, though, a bit like legend of mana
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 8 November 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
yeah, i tried ffta and it's not really much of a game. but maybe i should go back to it?
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 November 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
1997 Developer Interview, originally featured in Famicon Tsuushin magazine, newly translated:
http://shmuplations.com/fft/
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 July 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link
nice i should play disgaea
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
disgaea is extremely anime voice but the way it encourages experimentation and exploits is sui generis and great. i haven't played since the PS2 but i've heard the recent PC port isn't great.
― adam, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
hmmmmhttps://noisypixel.net/fae-tactics-switch-pc-spring-2020/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OcmU-KV-I
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
also the tactics ost is on spotify now so i'm playing that
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link