NINTENDO 3DS

I have an eye condition and can't do 3D. (tho maybe this DS will work since I don't need the glasses?)

but yeah, hate this weird 3D resurgence so much.

Me too, Alan. 3D makes me physically ill.

http://www.toastyfrog.com/verbalspew/archives/entry_1608.php

that is a pretty nice color tho

so is this 3DS thing just layers of screens?

2 layers at that... jesus depth in 2 layers

I like everything about it except that you can only look at it from one angle. Wld much rather have a DSi XL than this for that very reason.

you can turn off the 3D easily, though, so no probs

Yep, little worried about this:

The screen has a terrible, terrible angle of viewing

The elephant in the room, and the reason Nintendo was adamant that no one film 3DS games directly off the screen. This is going to be the system's make-or-break issue. The trick to the 3DS's visualization technology is that it (apparently) layers two screens one on top of the other. When you look at it straight-on, it looks like 3D! But tilt the machine even just a couple of degrees from dead-on and suddenly the illusion shatters and what you see is two ghost images rather than a single unified "solid." Look at it from a side-on, over-the-shoulder perspective and it's even worse. In a sense, the 3DS is the conceptual opposite of the DSi XL; the latter was purportedly designed to be a system that encourages people to gather round a single system and watch, but try doing that with the former and everyone's going to see something very ugly unless the depth slider is set to "off." More crucially, though, the 3DS's visual effect can break even for the person using the system if they don't hold it very, very carefully. I found that the natural movement of my hands and head during a fast-paced action game like Starfox 64 caused the system to move out of alignment for me. I wonder what impact this will have for long-term play; if you have to hold the system very carefully at a precise angle, it's going to become very tiring very quickly... to say nothing of the fact that the games which stand to benefit most from 3D visualization are the ones most likely to cause you to get you into the action and let your angle of viewing drift.

Still, I'm pretty pumped about the 3DS

It occurred to me that this reaction (while very sober and reasonable) is probably the most negative hands-on I've read about the 3DS. I have this suspicion that due to the press' tepid reaction to the original DS and opposite predictions for the PSP (as Parish mentions), perhaps the journalists would rather praise it now rather than looking foolish later (as it'll be easy enough to trash if it releases badly which is pretty unlikely) - but for now they're hesistant to point out shortcomings. Though of course, there's also the reason that Nintendo is strictly claiming that the system's far from finalized, in both hardware and software.

Also it's possible that there'll be a lot of launch titles that overuse or badly use the 3D (like the touch screen in the first gen DS games) and that'll change over time as developers get more used to it.

don't think i've ever thrown my head about when playing a handheld game, so i can't imagine that being a problem. more worried about me being lefthanded & there being games that use a analog nub + stylus in right hand control system (although if you can use a finger maybe it would be like dual analog?).

So it's like a holographic baseball card?

I am gleefully rubbing my hands together about how "The World Ends With You!" could run with an extra level of 3D! I am now hardwired into the two screens at a time battling system and could do with an extra challenge. Come on Squenix!! I dare you!

(Sadly this is speculation, I don't think they'll do a sequel, never mind a megabastard 3d sequel - oh but they *should*!)

3DS Dated for February 26, priced 25,000 yen

25,000.00 JPY = 298.703 USD !!!!

more details here, if you can get it to load...
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/29/nintendo_conf_live_blog/

300 would make this a not-day-one purchase for me.
basically anything above 200 for any handheld is outta my range.

yeah, that's quite a lot! I mean, more than a 360 or a ps3 - kind of mind boggling (even if they get it down to $250 in NA). Depends on the games for me, but I'm not really interested in 3D effects or a gameboy virtual console, they're going to have to be something really special & special isn't more Mario Kart and Zelda remakes and Animal Crossing again.

also with new iPad refresh (and price drop?) coming out around then - that's where I'm looking to spend some money, I think

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2010/3ds/lineupMovHigh.html

also with the psp2 being announced soon

yikes, well that price has killed my launch day boner. will wait for inevitable hardware revision & price cut instead.

isnt everything way more expensive in japan?

shocked at the price but still do want

i think it sounds terrible

never mind, psp2 incoming

well that price has killed my launch day boner

wow, guess I was mad rong about the price. apparently the DSi XL launched at a way higher price than the US version so all I can do is hold out hope for that to happen again, but even so it'll still probably be priced like the PSP GO.

the software looks sick as hell though. also Virtual Console for GB/GBA games finally confirmed! (even though I only really give a shit about getting Link's Awakening)

yeh but it doesn't look like they've done anything about their online structure ie. purchases tied to the hardware, so if your handheld breaks you lose your digital downloads.

holy shit, LAYTON PHOENIX WRIGHT CROSSOVER!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gufhYicCUs4

ALSO WANT THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ebK-dEt3k

infinite OMG at Phoenix Wright x Layton

level 10

Phoenix Wright + Layton! And they brought Maya back, it looks like...

Chris says: Holy. Fucking. Shit. This is the best day ever. I can’t remember the last time I got excited for a game like this. And for purely stupid fanboy reasons, like OH MY GOD MAYA AND LUKE CAN BE BEST FRIENDS OMG OMG OMG. I need to go take a few deep breaths.

Also I kind of feel like this is the beginning of the end for both series because they are probably jumping the shark big time, but what the hell, if it’s gonna happen anyway let’s get on that shark and ride it.

Whoever Chris is he's OTM, I had a totally geeky dream about Nick/Maya/Luke/Layton game last night.

http://i54.tinypic.com/dh8fi1.png

It wasn't a slash thing, oh man. I feel like saying anything more is just shoveling myself deeper.

subbed version of the trailer (turn annotations on)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6HjKH5YarA

the design (with 3 separate mouldings instead of 2) makes the 3DS /look/ a lot thicker than it actually is
http://i.imgur.com/q4e0A.jpg

if they shaved 1mm off the top casing so it looks like it's equivalent to the bottom and made the bottom section just one moulding then it would look a lot better imo

3-5 hours on one charge, and 3 and a half hours to charge? ugh. very bad if true.

Keep reading thing like "it's amazing how much easier it is to fly through rings when they're in 3D", but is pilotwings a game that needed to be any easier? Is ANY nintendo game?

lol you haven't played that new Donkey Kong game then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5GdDwripjE

I doubt the 3D will make it easier to get a complete line of furniture in Animal Crossing.

A very hard game, that one.

Har, yeah ok. I guess I'm just still hurting after looking forward to all those Gamecube games like waverace and 1080, then finishing them in 2 nights each and being like "huh?".

i feel ya there (why did I get Luigi's Mansion, anyway), but then again: F-Zero GX. i'm more hopeful about the tag features and augmented reality stuff so far - there hasn't been any cool gameplay concepts as of yet that will really use the 3D. still, kinda psyched about that lineup

And it's region locked.

>:(

officially holding out until it gets haXored to support all regions (or, more likely, until Paper Mario gets released)

Or until the 2nd generation version with the non-lol battery life arrives.

I got excited when that came out, then realised you need a 'New' 3DS system to play the SNES VC games.

whole bunch of 3ds news worth bringing up:

- stoked for the imminent release of the DQ7 remake (even though it apparently requires you to go through an eight-step process every time you want to save), but nowhere near as stoked as I am for Natsume's port of River City Tokyo Rumble. naturally that one isn't available for preorder for some unfathomable reason, though.

- played a whole bunch of the crossword puzzle game on a train ride up to SF recently; it really is quite excellent, even though its handwriting recognition is kind of questionable at times (although then again so is my handwriting).

- I also plan on picking up Rhythm Heaven Megamix (which apparently has been out for months and I just never realized it) and Picross 3DS in the very near future.

- I guess the real big news is the recent expansions to the Streetpass games, which I am beginning to love all-encompassingly. the new games are all pretty great, as is the ability to get more puzzle pieces from StreetPass folks and bank up to 100 StreetPass instances at a time. I really ought to start taking my 3DS with me whenever I go out walking around the neighborhood if only to rack up connections.

also super stoked for DQ7 which hopefully turns up in the post tomorrow.Have been playing 3D Outrun quite a bit as it was on sale last week, a perfect pick up and play game and the 3D really enhances the game imo.

streets of rage 2 for £2 this week = SO GOOD

God, this is even more depressing than the Vita thread

Man, I am totally being suckered into buying River City: Tokyo Rumble now for that stupid keychain. If I can find it in stock anywhere...

um, is that a River City Ransom redo?

Full blown sequel as I've heard :)

man i bought a first gen 3ds and quit playing as it hurt my delicate little hands but that might make me bust it back out

The lack of hand comfort is one of the excuses I give myself for barely having touched the system

Never had any comfort issues, can play for hours at a time. Maybe I've got weird hands tho.
DQ7 is a total treat if you like old school JRPGs, love the way you visit an island in the past, solve a problem and then visit it in the present to see how it changed - not all happy endings either.

1st gen system is very boxy and has sharp edges, they promptly rounded off and made it more grabbable for the update

Even the XL I have still feels like you're grasping a slippery cigarette case

physical copies of River City Tokyo Rumble sold out in less than an hour, although it appears that fart-huffing ebay flippers bought a statistically significant number of copies. luckily I managed to get my order in during that brief window (although they're pressing a second run, complete w/ the Kunio keychain that came with initial copies); it showed up today so I haven't gotten to sink my teeth into it yet. unfortunately no co-op mode, though.

in other news, a game I've been playing a bunch lately is Gotta Protectors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHv0TbTUG4s

Tokyo Rumble is the shit, it's basically a Yakuza game drenched in 8/16-bit charm. hopefully the demand is sufficient to convince Natsume to bring other Kunio games stateside; there's already a 3DS collection in Japan compiling basically everything as well as romhack translations of a few titles (although not the basketball game, unfortunately) that they could use as a reference:

http://nintendoeverything.com/kunio-kun-nekketsu-complete-famicom-compilation-coming-to-3ds/

thanks for making my decision easier! i can' tell from the list, but i hope the samurai version is in that comp

I hadn't even heard of the samurai Kunio, but from what I understand the collection is pretty comprehensive so if it came out on NES it should be on there

ok i checked and it IS on there. man i hope this comes out here

to the great surprise of nobody, Kirby: Planet Robobot is pretty great. I'm only a couple of worlds in, but so far it's at least as good as Triple Deluxe (which also rules).

From a few years back: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/the-emergent-heartbreak-of-tomodachi-life#

I played through the demo for Miitopia (the Tomodachi Life RPG) in one sitting; that game appears to be extremely my shit.

https://www.polygon.com/23024014/atlus-nintendo-3ds-sale-store

I already picked up Radiant Historia - haven't played any of these though. I'm surprised the SMT IV games haven't been ported to Switch already

I picked up a 3DS XL recently. Hacked it and have been dumping 3DS, DS, and GBA game on it. Lovely, fun little device.

I mostly just wanted it to play Dragon Quest 8, but there really is a wealth of other great stuff in those libraries to explore. I’ve kinda scoured the “best games for _____” lists, but if anyone has any good recs I’m all ears.

any preferred genres?

Not particularly. I picked up a bunch of Mario, Castlevania, and Metroid stuff, always a safe bet. Got some DQ games, Fire Emblem, Shin Megami Tensei 4, even some Pokémon. I suppose I should just take the time to just read through this thread too. Just curious if anyone had any in particular that stuck out for them.

OK some less obvious 3DS games off the top of my head:
Pocket Card Jockey - very addictive card based horse racing game, made by Pokemon people
Fantasy Life - Level 5 action RPG, has become a cult hit and a Switch sequel finally got announced recently
Ever Oasis - a Nintendo published action adventure game that somehow passed everyone by
NES Remix - kind of like a Warioware game that takes NES games and mashes them up for quick challenges
Attack of the Friday Monsters - really charming adventure game made by the "My Summer Vacation" guy. explore a small town in 1970s Japan as a kid, play card games, investigate giant kaiju footprints on the edge of town etc. makes you nostalgic for a childhood you never had.

could go on for hours about the incredible weirdness that can be found in the DS library, almost rivals the PS2 for the amount of creative madness that went on

i second the ^ pocket card jockey & attack of the friday monsters recs
assuming you have FBI running, it's pretty straight forward to find a QR for mother 3
kid icarus: uprising is good fun
sega arcade classics and things like 3d outrun are worth an install
inazuma eleven is a high school soccer rpg
dillon's dead heat breakers is a lot of things mixed together in a fun weird way
on the DS bangai-o spirits is something to behold, i mean again i'm repeating what zappi says but there's a ton of great DS games

I'm just finishing Devil survivor 2,both of those games are decent smt x tactics games, not mind blowing but solid

thanks all! will be checking all these out. it is kind of a crazy library, 3DS, DS, and GBA all together, figured there had to be plenty of off-the-beaten-track titles worth exploring.

not to derail but zappi, i'd love to hear your DS recommendations

I'll do one later! was thinking a lot last night about the DS library before falling asleep: playing stuff like Ouendan, Trauma Center, Layton etc for the first time and how amazing that was. also Bangai-O Spirits is a good shout, forgot about that one

also just checked and no one has done a translation patch for the Mushishi DS game ;_;