^^ Isnt the map perk only available around level 18-20?
Im such a fanboy I deliberately didn't explore 1/3d of the map so I would have something new to do on my second playthrough because of the level cap.
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:01 (sixteen years ago)
game sucks so hard you gotta play the shit out of it for 4-5 days and then start a second playthrough. COME ON.― circa1916, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:29 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark
― circa1916, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:29 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark
2 days, and i always finish games
faggot
― yakko warner (cankles), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:08 (sixteen years ago)
it's the second playthrough part though
― shite new answers (cutty), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:10 (sixteen years ago)
but i didnt beat the game and play it again dude, i quit and restarted after getting to rivet city
― yakko warner (cankles), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:12 (sixteen years ago)
restarted w/different stats and skill point allocation
― yakko warner (cankles), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:13 (sixteen years ago)
saving all the fun for your perfect runthrough. COME ON.
― fuckin' (jeff), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:17 (sixteen years ago)
games like this have mutually exclusive decisions, you can't see everything in the content you've paid for if you run through it once.
that said i've never really felt like going thru a big game like this as hardcore evil.
― goole, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:20 (sixteen years ago)
i did evil playthroughs for the first two fallouts, but they mostly consisted of just walking into towns and slaughtering everyone
― yakko warner (cankles), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:21 (sixteen years ago)
i think my prob with it is that it's clearly an afterthought, and ends up looking cartoonish, instead of really manifestly horrible behavior.
as in, you fought off the fire ants and saved the little boy, do you find him a new home, y/n? no, ok, do you SELL HIM INTO SLAVERY!??!?!
being a shitty person kinda calls into question your motivation for doing any of the quests at all. the grand story is about turning on the big machine to make water and save the world. if you were evil, why wouldn't you just team up with the bad guys, or try to own the damn thing for yourself? you'd be rich! (or is that what the evil ending is heh)
― goole, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:28 (sixteen years ago)
guys, just let him hate playing
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:42 (sixteen years ago)
This is why KOTOR was so fucking great.
(xp)
― JimD, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:44 (sixteen years ago)
THIS TASTES LIKE SHIT SO I DIDN'T FINISH IT. CAN I HAVE SOME MORE? THANKS!
― shite new answers (cutty), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:58 (sixteen years ago)
you can be interested in something and have fun with it even if it has problems. fo3 is at least worth the effort thinking about, it's not like we're dissecting the unresolved issues of devil may cry or some shit.
― goole, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 23:07 (sixteen years ago)
i dont even know what cutty's saying
i think my prob with it is that it's clearly an afterthought, and ends up looking cartoonish, instead of really manifestly horrible behavior.as in, you fought off the fire ants and saved the little boy, do you find him a new home, y/n? no, ok, do you SELL HIM INTO SLAVERY!??!?!being a shitty person kinda calls into question your motivation for doing any of the quests at all. the grand story is about turning on the big machine to make water and save the world. if you were evil, why wouldn't you just team up with the bad guys, or try to own the damn thing for yourself? you'd be rich! (or is that what the evil ending is heh)― goole, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― goole, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
are you just talking about fo3 here? i like that it doesn't have an 'evil' version of the plot, it just introduces an objective and then permits you to go about achieving it however you want
― yakko warner (cankles), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 23:37 (sixteen years ago)
i'm just joking around with u ade
it's just funny that you have so many gripes with the game but still want to play
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 00:29 (sixteen years ago)
i paid cash money for it man, of course i still want to play!
seriously though, it's a good game - bordering on really good to great. it's just that for some reason it's much easier for me to crystallize the things i dislike about it than explain what i like about it (i honestly can't figure out why/how it's captured my attention so thoroughly)
― Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Thursday, 4 March 2010 06:44 (sixteen years ago)
damn canks u paying money for games!?!?!
― (Head) (Lamp), Thursday, 4 March 2010 06:48 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, i'm a sucker. Deal With It.
― Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Thursday, 4 March 2010 06:49 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.meristation.com/EPORTAL_IMGS/GENERAL/juegos/PC-Accion/57/IMG2-cw46228bce447b7/00198535.jpg
― (Head) (Lamp), Thursday, 4 March 2010 06:51 (sixteen years ago)
(i honestly can't figure out why/how it's captured my attention so thoroughly)
it's funny but this i hear about fallout3 more than any other game.
Been playing it again since this thread revival, and it's much easier when you tackle the tasks in the order they're given to you rather than how i played it on ps3 in mad random fashion.
so i now have the dog and he's pretty much completed the Those mission all by himself!
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 4 March 2010 09:53 (sixteen years ago)
I pretty much played this thing without having anybody following me around. The super mutant guy seemed kind of useful, everyone else just liked to get shot at or disappear like dogmeat
― mh, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:28 (sixteen years ago)
i picked up dogmeat out of tradition, but he's transformed from a lovable-if-somewhat-useless sidekick to THAT FUCKIN DOG who blocks me into doorways constantly
― Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:33 (sixteen years ago)
I got him then almost immediately sent him to go wait somewhere. I felt he was necessary to get, but I felt really bad about him getting killed any time he tried to help.
― mh, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:50 (sixteen years ago)
leave him at the house. seriously.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:50 (sixteen years ago)
never got the dog either, i stuck with my man fawkes
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:56 (sixteen years ago)
my follower is the robot right now, he's okay but he gets in the way of my minigun a lot
― Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:44 (sixteen years ago)
By the time you hit level 20 there is no challenge and you might as well push up the difficultyI never beat this game because I was playing like a power gamer on the first run through. I was on my way to collecting 100 skill points for each skill (except the karate skill.. I think I may have fucked up my skill point distribution to get 100 in everyone including that one).
Basically I quit the main quest after I had just left the enclave headquarters with the supermutant guy. I don't know how much main quest was left for me anyways (probably not much).
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:14 (sixteen years ago)
In retrospect I didn't mind using VATS one bit during the game because it was extremely helpful but I think I would remove VATS from any more versions of the game because it makes things a little too easy and really distracts from the FPS feel. Eventually there was no reason for any creature to ever pop up at you and scare you if you were playing this game skillfully. (maybe Vats should change real-time to something 6x slower rather than completely pausing the game)
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:21 (sixteen years ago)
I was the opposite, I think they should tweak VATS and make it more useful. The way I had my character balanced, I was more likely to be able to take some shots in FPS-style shooting and kill guys faster. VATS is a lot better for conserving ammo, but just shooting like crazy when you're at the point where you can take some damage kills guys a lot faster.
― mh, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:55 (sixteen years ago)
It's faster shooting like crazy because Vats pauses the game. I had most of my powerups in Vats stuff. I think it took 4 shots at most to kill an enemy and I would gets my Vats refilled (or somewhat refilled?) after every kill.
― CaptainLorax, Friday, 5 March 2010 01:23 (sixteen years ago)
I don't think Vats detracted from anything, please to keep it in future games.And yes great for conserving ammo, especially assault rifle which I can get a bit trigger happy with in non-vats combat.
my dog seems to be fire proof, is this a bug or what? he's killing like a maniac at the moment.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Friday, 5 March 2010 10:06 (sixteen years ago)
I played the whole game in VATS! Whenever I ran out of action points I'd just run and hide until they recharged.
― JimD, Friday, 5 March 2010 12:44 (sixteen years ago)
I think on some of the guns that are fairly accurate at a longer distance, you can actually score more hits by zooming in and sniping than you would in VATS -- it seemed to me like shots that would have gone wide hit every time.
― mh, Friday, 5 March 2010 14:32 (sixteen years ago)
do you have to zoom + Vats to improve your hits, or will just pressing Vats automatically assume you want to zoom with those type of guns? if you follow me.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:52 (sixteen years ago)
VATS assumes zooming, I believe. I think "zoomability" is just kind of a range bonus on the gun that manifests as a scope in fps mode, and as an increased accuracy in VATS.
― mh, Friday, 5 March 2010 15:03 (sixteen years ago)
ditto
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 5 March 2010 15:22 (sixteen years ago)
i liked how (sorta) cinematic it felt. not so much the actual choices of zoom and shit, just that it'd look like my arm was about to get chewed off or whatever but by some THE PROTAGONIST ALWAYS WINS logic my dude would pull up his shotgun and get a shot in at the last minute, etc
― thomp, Friday, 5 March 2010 15:56 (sixteen years ago)
cover action for the new game:
http://bethblog.com/index.php/2010/03/03/curious-about-new-vegas-europes-got-you-covered/
― Sex Sexual (kingfish), Friday, 5 March 2010 19:13 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=11594&article_id=1001838#anchor
All looks a bit...more of the same.
― JimD, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 08:11 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, that was my take as well. interviews with devs suggest that they're not calling this fallout 4 for just that reason.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 08:49 (sixteen years ago)
will play the shit out of this one
― fuckin' (jeff), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 08:54 (sixteen years ago)
There is a picture with geckos! I am happy.
― mh, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 14:36 (sixteen years ago)
I think I just expected more variation in the environment. A post-nuclear Vegas could feasibly look very different to a post-nuclear Washington, but it doesn't here.
― JimD, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 15:13 (sixteen years ago)
http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/0/0/1/8/3/8/ss_preview_f13.jpg.jpg?slideshow=true
― Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:06 (sixteen years ago)
i had no idea New Vegas was being made by Obsidian - gotta say, i am highly intrigued by this
― Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:07 (sixteen years ago)
how does obsidian compare with bethesda?
― goole, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:36 (sixteen years ago)
Obsidian is notable in that the founders are former employees of Black Isle, the developers of FO1&2.
― mh, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:44 (sixteen years ago)
ah, intelesting
― goole, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:46 (sixteen years ago)
If this game has many nods to fallout 1&2 I will be a happy man.
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:11 (sixteen years ago)
its pretty much gonna be van buren
― Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:22 (sixteen years ago)