Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

and the 1st graphic is cooler than the 2nd, fallout's original aesthetic is totally unlike anything else, the 2nd one could be 2 dozen games

whatever, you guys are the rockists of gaming. "it doesn't follow advanced D&D 2.5 rules? I won't play it!"

it frees you from a lot of bullshit quests.

don't like xp, huh?

i never even found/went to the slaver town in f3

i tore that fuckin place apart iirc

seriously tho i think dragon age is better in every respect, better v/o, story, backstory, the conversation and decision trees are better thought out, the combat is more fun, the character build options are more fun. maybe not the visuals tho.

seeing rivet city the first time, at night, was A++

the rpg elements of dragon age are stronger than fo3, mostly because it is a more traditional rpg, but once you get out of the menus, the action in fo3 is much more fun. the kind of managed, indirect combat of dragon age doesn't stack at all against the fo3 combat, imo.

rating dragon's age over fo3 is crazy talk

i dunno, i thot FO3 was a below-avg shooter and a below-avg rpg combat system kind of stuck together

xp, FO3 just left me with a feeling of vague disappointment, can't explain it. i don't think the goofball 50's pulp elements and ruined amoral mad-max elements were blended together or thought out very well.

like, here's something that's so obvious it kind of ruins shit for me: the city full of children. it's not a bad idea, there was a tribe of kids in mad max. but the backstory you find out is that there were a bunch of kids left on a field trip when the war started. okaaay that was 200 years ago. are all these kids 200 years old? if they aren't, where did they come from? are people dropping them off there?

it's like one of the writers wanted to do a city of kids thing and none of the directors or editors took a second look at it.

whatever, you guys are the rockists of gaming. "it doesn't follow advanced D&D 2.5 rules? I won't play it!"

― i'm #FFFFFF btw (bnw), Monday, March 1, 2010 10:35 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark

i just know what i like (isometric turn-based gaming) and what i don't like (bad voice acting, bad writing, boring gameplay, bad character models) - no need to bring the r-word into this

The kids all move to Big Town when they get older, which isn't half as safe, so maybe the people there send their kids back to be looked after.

game sucks so hard you gotta play the shit out of it for 4-5 days and then start a second playthrough. COME ON.

I think I ruined this for me by taking that perk where you see all the map locations, then want to go visit them all.

game sucks so hard you gotta play the shit out of it for 4-5 days and then start a second playthrough. COME ON.

loooooool sonned

^^ Isnt the map perk only available around level 18-20?

Im such a fanboy I deliberately didn't explore 1/3d of the map so I would have something new to do on my second playthrough because of the level cap.

game sucks so hard you gotta play the shit out of it for 4-5 days and then start a second playthrough. COME ON.

― circa1916, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:29 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark

2 days, and i always finish games

faggot

it's the second playthrough part though

but i didnt beat the game and play it again dude, i quit and restarted after getting to rivet city

restarted w/different stats and skill point allocation

saving all the fun for your perfect runthrough. COME ON.

games like this have mutually exclusive decisions, you can't see everything in the content you've paid for if you run through it once.

that said i've never really felt like going thru a big game like this as hardcore evil.

i did evil playthroughs for the first two fallouts, but they mostly consisted of just walking into towns and slaughtering everyone

i think my prob with it is that it's clearly an afterthought, and ends up looking cartoonish, instead of really manifestly horrible behavior.

as in, you fought off the fire ants and saved the little boy, do you find him a new home, y/n? no, ok, do you SELL HIM INTO SLAVERY!??!?!

being a shitty person kinda calls into question your motivation for doing any of the quests at all. the grand story is about turning on the big machine to make water and save the world. if you were evil, why wouldn't you just team up with the bad guys, or try to own the damn thing for yourself? you'd be rich! (or is that what the evil ending is heh)

guys, just let him hate playing

This is why KOTOR was so fucking great.

(xp)

THIS TASTES LIKE SHIT SO I DIDN'T FINISH IT. CAN I HAVE SOME MORE? THANKS!

you can be interested in something and have fun with it even if it has problems. fo3 is at least worth the effort thinking about, it's not like we're dissecting the unresolved issues of devil may cry or some shit.

i dont even know what cutty's saying

i think my prob with it is that it's clearly an afterthought, and ends up looking cartoonish, instead of really manifestly horrible behavior.

as in, you fought off the fire ants and saved the little boy, do you find him a new home, y/n? no, ok, do you SELL HIM INTO SLAVERY!??!?!

being a shitty person kinda calls into question your motivation for doing any of the quests at all. the grand story is about turning on the big machine to make water and save the world. if you were evil, why wouldn't you just team up with the bad guys, or try to own the damn thing for yourself? you'd be rich! (or is that what the evil ending is heh)

― goole, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

are you just talking about fo3 here? i like that it doesn't have an 'evil' version of the plot, it just introduces an objective and then permits you to go about achieving it however you want

i'm just joking around with u ade

it's just funny that you have so many gripes with the game but still want to play

i paid cash money for it man, of course i still want to play!

seriously though, it's a good game - bordering on really good to great. it's just that for some reason it's much easier for me to crystallize the things i dislike about it than explain what i like about it (i honestly can't figure out why/how it's captured my attention so thoroughly)

damn canks u paying money for games!?!?!

yeah, i'm a sucker. Deal With It.

http://www.meristation.com/EPORTAL_IMGS/GENERAL/juegos/PC-Accion/57/IMG2-cw46228bce447b7/00198535.jpg

(i honestly can't figure out why/how it's captured my attention so thoroughly)

it's funny but this i hear about fallout3 more than any other game.

Been playing it again since this thread revival, and it's much easier when you tackle the tasks in the order they're given to you rather than how i played it on ps3 in mad random fashion.

so i now have the dog and he's pretty much completed the Those mission all by himself!

I pretty much played this thing without having anybody following me around. The super mutant guy seemed kind of useful, everyone else just liked to get shot at or disappear like dogmeat

i picked up dogmeat out of tradition, but he's transformed from a lovable-if-somewhat-useless sidekick to THAT FUCKIN DOG who blocks me into doorways constantly

I got him then almost immediately sent him to go wait somewhere. I felt he was necessary to get, but I felt really bad about him getting killed any time he tried to help.

leave him at the house. seriously.

never got the dog either, i stuck with my man fawkes

my follower is the robot right now, he's okay but he gets in the way of my minigun a lot

By the time you hit level 20 there is no challenge and you might as well push up the difficulty
I never beat this game because I was playing like a power gamer on the first run through. I was on my way to collecting 100 skill points for each skill (except the karate skill.. I think I may have fucked up my skill point distribution to get 100 in everyone including that one).

Basically I quit the main quest after I had just left the enclave headquarters with the supermutant guy. I don't know how much main quest was left for me anyways (probably not much).

In retrospect I didn't mind using VATS one bit during the game because it was extremely helpful but I think I would remove VATS from any more versions of the game because it makes things a little too easy and really distracts from the FPS feel. Eventually there was no reason for any creature to ever pop up at you and scare you if you were playing this game skillfully. (maybe Vats should change real-time to something 6x slower rather than completely pausing the game)

I was the opposite, I think they should tweak VATS and make it more useful. The way I had my character balanced, I was more likely to be able to take some shots in FPS-style shooting and kill guys faster. VATS is a lot better for conserving ammo, but just shooting like crazy when you're at the point where you can take some damage kills guys a lot faster.

It's faster shooting like crazy because Vats pauses the game. I had most of my powerups in Vats stuff. I think it took 4 shots at most to kill an enemy and I would gets my Vats refilled (or somewhat refilled?) after every kill.

I don't think Vats detracted from anything, please to keep it in future games.
And yes great for conserving ammo, especially assault rifle which I can get a bit trigger happy with in non-vats combat.

my dog seems to be fire proof, is this a bug or what? he's killing like a maniac at the moment.

I played the whole game in VATS! Whenever I ran out of action points I'd just run and hide until they recharged.

I think on some of the guns that are fairly accurate at a longer distance, you can actually score more hits by zooming in and sniping than you would in VATS -- it seemed to me like shots that would have gone wide hit every time.

do you have to zoom + Vats to improve your hits, or will just pressing Vats automatically assume you want to zoom with those type of guns? if you follow me.