Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

that's funny because that's the persona you've taken on! FO3 offers surprising customization into how you play the game above and beyond "kill the kitten/save the kitten" moral choices. I was captain dogooder running around saving people and then outfitting my house with swank shit.

-this game's a nightmare for packrats like me. i need to see if there's a mod that gets rid of the overencumberance penalty... it's fuckin ridiculous that it wont let you transport anywhere when you're encumbered, that's when you need it the most!!

-the giant bugs are HORRIBLE. i grimace every time i see (or hear!) a radroach

-it's a lot more like fallout 2 than fallout 1, which is a pity cuz fallout 1 was my fav

-it's really amazing how good the game world looks, and how shitty and awful the people populating it look

-i wish i blew up megaton :(

ok now im sick of this fuckin game

the combat is tedious, and there's SO FUCKING MUCH of it. there's also way too much dungeon crawling. its better than oblivion but not by much - its incredibly shallow. also, the game world is too crowded - the size of the contiguous map is impressive, but there's too much crammed in there, there's not the sense of loneliness you get from fallout 1.

i put a ton of points into speech, remembering how in the previous games you could have all kinds of interesting trees opening up and influence outcomes of different events. in fallout 3 it's basically just, like, a seldom-used jedi mind trick. so my guy has zero points in guns, and a ton of points in bullshit like speech, science, repair, lockpicking...

speaking of which, the shittiness and length of the opening makes it prohibitive to start again and try different builds, which sucks

and then there's my main beef, which is that the quests are just really uninteresting. he combat is seriously not that good to sustain the game, esp. given that you can just rape anything in the game with vats

i don't like that 2 hrs in you are one-shotting super mutants, they're basically just humans with more hit points

also you can't murder kids, which sucks - actually one thing that is kind of clever is how all the kids were little fuckin pissants, its like the game was daring you to kill them

you can't do a low-int playthrough, which sucks

the karma system's in need of revamping, and speaking of which they really screwed up by not including a numerical karma counter

there was one thing i kinda liked that reminded me of a quest from the old games, where you encounter this tower filled with rich people and there's some ghouls who want to live there - so you find the peaceful solution and convince the ghouls not to attack and convince the tower owner to let them live there, all's well that end's well. except when you go back to the tower later on, the place is completely empty except for the three ghouls, because they'd murdered everyone in the building.

here's another good comparison between the games - in fo1, one of the most memorable things for me was when you try to get that girl back from the slavers, but right away you can be like hey fuck her, can I just join yall. i went to the slaver town in FO3 earlier, and there was literally nothing you could do besides a) buy slaves b) kill them all. and there's no REASON to, cause all of the npcs have like 5 lines of dialog!

you've done an awful lot in a short space of time, jees I've had this game for months and not done half of what you've mentioned.

I don't remember if there is a difficulty setting? but you cannot just rape anything in vats, especially if you put all your points into speech! there is one laser type gun they give you way too early that is pretty overpowered.

and please:

this: http://imgur.com/Rud5l.jpg

vs this: http://imgur.com/kuWoPl.jpg

yeah, thats a tough call.

yeah well, i'm starting over as a melee expert just to try and make things challenging

fallout 1/2 are my favorite games of all time and I haven't played this (or any computer game for yearsss)

my ex-roommate was playing it on xbox and it looked combat-y and pretty but I mean there are lots of games like that

if cankles likes this in the end I might play it, but judging from what he's saying, I don't think I'd be too into it either

melee can be pretty rough. until you get that skill that causes people to freeze and fall over. then its too easy >< don't forget to nuke megaton, it frees you from a lot of bullshit quests.

and the 1st graphic is cooler than the 2nd, fallout's original aesthetic is totally unlike anything else, the 2nd one could be 2 dozen games

whatever, you guys are the rockists of gaming. "it doesn't follow advanced D&D 2.5 rules? I won't play it!"

it frees you from a lot of bullshit quests.

don't like xp, huh?

i never even found/went to the slaver town in f3

i tore that fuckin place apart iirc

seriously tho i think dragon age is better in every respect, better v/o, story, backstory, the conversation and decision trees are better thought out, the combat is more fun, the character build options are more fun. maybe not the visuals tho.

seeing rivet city the first time, at night, was A++

the rpg elements of dragon age are stronger than fo3, mostly because it is a more traditional rpg, but once you get out of the menus, the action in fo3 is much more fun. the kind of managed, indirect combat of dragon age doesn't stack at all against the fo3 combat, imo.

rating dragon's age over fo3 is crazy talk

i dunno, i thot FO3 was a below-avg shooter and a below-avg rpg combat system kind of stuck together

xp, FO3 just left me with a feeling of vague disappointment, can't explain it. i don't think the goofball 50's pulp elements and ruined amoral mad-max elements were blended together or thought out very well.

like, here's something that's so obvious it kind of ruins shit for me: the city full of children. it's not a bad idea, there was a tribe of kids in mad max. but the backstory you find out is that there were a bunch of kids left on a field trip when the war started. okaaay that was 200 years ago. are all these kids 200 years old? if they aren't, where did they come from? are people dropping them off there?

it's like one of the writers wanted to do a city of kids thing and none of the directors or editors took a second look at it.

whatever, you guys are the rockists of gaming. "it doesn't follow advanced D&D 2.5 rules? I won't play it!"

― i'm #FFFFFF btw (bnw), Monday, March 1, 2010 10:35 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark

i just know what i like (isometric turn-based gaming) and what i don't like (bad voice acting, bad writing, boring gameplay, bad character models) - no need to bring the r-word into this

The kids all move to Big Town when they get older, which isn't half as safe, so maybe the people there send their kids back to be looked after.

game sucks so hard you gotta play the shit out of it for 4-5 days and then start a second playthrough. COME ON.

I think I ruined this for me by taking that perk where you see all the map locations, then want to go visit them all.

game sucks so hard you gotta play the shit out of it for 4-5 days and then start a second playthrough. COME ON.

loooooool sonned

^^ Isnt the map perk only available around level 18-20?

Im such a fanboy I deliberately didn't explore 1/3d of the map so I would have something new to do on my second playthrough because of the level cap.

game sucks so hard you gotta play the shit out of it for 4-5 days and then start a second playthrough. COME ON.

― circa1916, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:29 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark

2 days, and i always finish games

faggot

it's the second playthrough part though

but i didnt beat the game and play it again dude, i quit and restarted after getting to rivet city

restarted w/different stats and skill point allocation

saving all the fun for your perfect runthrough. COME ON.

games like this have mutually exclusive decisions, you can't see everything in the content you've paid for if you run through it once.

that said i've never really felt like going thru a big game like this as hardcore evil.

i did evil playthroughs for the first two fallouts, but they mostly consisted of just walking into towns and slaughtering everyone

i think my prob with it is that it's clearly an afterthought, and ends up looking cartoonish, instead of really manifestly horrible behavior.

as in, you fought off the fire ants and saved the little boy, do you find him a new home, y/n? no, ok, do you SELL HIM INTO SLAVERY!??!?!

being a shitty person kinda calls into question your motivation for doing any of the quests at all. the grand story is about turning on the big machine to make water and save the world. if you were evil, why wouldn't you just team up with the bad guys, or try to own the damn thing for yourself? you'd be rich! (or is that what the evil ending is heh)

guys, just let him hate playing

This is why KOTOR was so fucking great.

(xp)

THIS TASTES LIKE SHIT SO I DIDN'T FINISH IT. CAN I HAVE SOME MORE? THANKS!

you can be interested in something and have fun with it even if it has problems. fo3 is at least worth the effort thinking about, it's not like we're dissecting the unresolved issues of devil may cry or some shit.

i dont even know what cutty's saying

i think my prob with it is that it's clearly an afterthought, and ends up looking cartoonish, instead of really manifestly horrible behavior.

as in, you fought off the fire ants and saved the little boy, do you find him a new home, y/n? no, ok, do you SELL HIM INTO SLAVERY!??!?!

being a shitty person kinda calls into question your motivation for doing any of the quests at all. the grand story is about turning on the big machine to make water and save the world. if you were evil, why wouldn't you just team up with the bad guys, or try to own the damn thing for yourself? you'd be rich! (or is that what the evil ending is heh)

― goole, Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

are you just talking about fo3 here? i like that it doesn't have an 'evil' version of the plot, it just introduces an objective and then permits you to go about achieving it however you want

i'm just joking around with u ade

it's just funny that you have so many gripes with the game but still want to play

i paid cash money for it man, of course i still want to play!

seriously though, it's a good game - bordering on really good to great. it's just that for some reason it's much easier for me to crystallize the things i dislike about it than explain what i like about it (i honestly can't figure out why/how it's captured my attention so thoroughly)

damn canks u paying money for games!?!?!

yeah, i'm a sucker. Deal With It.

http://www.meristation.com/EPORTAL_IMGS/GENERAL/juegos/PC-Accion/57/IMG2-cw46228bce447b7/00198535.jpg

(i honestly can't figure out why/how it's captured my attention so thoroughly)

it's funny but this i hear about fallout3 more than any other game.

Been playing it again since this thread revival, and it's much easier when you tackle the tasks in the order they're given to you rather than how i played it on ps3 in mad random fashion.

so i now have the dog and he's pretty much completed the Those mission all by himself!

I pretty much played this thing without having anybody following me around. The super mutant guy seemed kind of useful, everyone else just liked to get shot at or disappear like dogmeat

i picked up dogmeat out of tradition, but he's transformed from a lovable-if-somewhat-useless sidekick to THAT FUCKIN DOG who blocks me into doorways constantly

I got him then almost immediately sent him to go wait somewhere. I felt he was necessary to get, but I felt really bad about him getting killed any time he tried to help.

leave him at the house. seriously.

never got the dog either, i stuck with my man fawkes