Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

Yeah that destructoid preview is absolutely fucking terrible. "I shot some old ladies!!! I love this game!!!" Ladies and gentlemen, videogames blogger.

-- El Tomboto, Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

seriously. "I. SHOT. A. WOMAN." wtfffff

and to think he's not even the worst journo on that site

see one jim sterling

Maybe this has been answered before, but I can't search through the whole thread...

So I never played any of these games before, but now I finally want to (plus only six dollars each on gog). Should I start with the original Fallout, or should I just skip to Fallout 2? Are they basically the same, or is there some kind of ongoing story? I assume the games are fairly long and I never have tons of time for long games (so I worry I won't have time for both)...

Start with the originally Fallout. They aren't that different and once you play one you'll want to play both.

And they do have loose thematic connections.

Yeah, a lot of references in the second game are lost on you when oyu havewn't played ther first (and it spoils the story of the first completely). Plus the first is much shorter, so you cna beat it quicker and move on to 2.

Thanks - I'm downloading the first one. 47 minutes to go!

Awesome. Savor it! You're probably going to want to play through it more than once.

i remembering downloading my err backup copy of fallout in 98 or so. it was like 500 mb and took like an entire week, lol slow.

I was almost killed by rats before I could figure out how combat works...

if i were you, i'd call an exterminator before i got around to playing an old rpg.

does the GOG stuff work on Mac? I have a pre-boot camp ibook...

I am probably down with doing this too once I finish playing through bioshock... twice. So you know, maybe November? Is it worth it Jeff?

I played a bit more tonight. I guess I have to find a rope? So I wandered around looking for it through the deserts and mountians, barely escaping a gang of rowdies who wanted to "party," but ended up being killed by three giant scorpions a short while later. Where dat rope?

I guess I'm into it, mostly because so far it's slow, weird, and unlike the games I usually play. I've yet to advance very far though

It's not that linear, Jeff (ie: Find the rope, go into the well, get the thing, solve the puzzle). In fact, I only remember one "quest" in the game that actually requires a rope to complete.

Ooh, look:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=243314

Yeah, Fallout would be perfectly complemented by... hmm. What's an album that's like... doom metal slow but route-66-westerny music feel? If that exists, that's Fallout basically.

White Zombie?

Friends of Dean Martinez/Calexico

there's a rope in the town between the vaults, hidden in a bookshelf or drawer. can't remember what house. although the game doesn't have to be played in order, this quest can be done right from the start of the game, and it can give you the location of another town.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Rope

http://jl13.com/images/fallout_billboard.jpg

As I rounded the corner from Amoeba Records in Hollywood, I didn't expect to see that.

seriously!! they have a certified printers in hollywood!?!

LOL

Metro Center station, the big downtown hub of dc, has basically had every available space for ads bought up to promote this. It's even weirder than the usual clean coal/military contractor ads we get.

Been seeing a lot of TV ads for this... during Sons of Anarchy tonight I saw one of those longer commericials with Todd Howard (?) talking over game footage. I'm surprised, because I don't remember any of the Elder Scrolls games (let alone previous Fallout games) getting this level of advertising dollars.

i really hope that this is good. been patiently waiting for a sequel for years.

GOG.com opened its public beta today, so you can get FO1, 2 or Tactics for $6 if you so choose.

real talk, everyone: fallout 2 isn't half as good as fallout 1

imho

I've always preferred the original too. Second definitely a case of more not necessarily meaning better. Still a great game tho.

it felt like a halfassed expansion pack to the original

It was essentially Fallout 1.5, but the original formula was good enough that I didn't really care.

real talk: so psyched for this

I've been visiting No Mutants Allowed on occasion for Fallout 3 news/reviews/etc. Made the mistake of venturing into the forums. I can understand being annoyed by or skeptical of the new direction, but these dudes are like the most aggressively obnoxious examples of fanboys fucking ever. Like I want to buy 5 Super Deluxe copies of F3 just to spite their unpleasable asses.

good lord, ILG is 3 years old

wau.

omg, 100 hours of gameplay should feel like a wonderful treat not a burden. what has it come to when i read that and cringe.

i really really want this to be good. this is coming out at just the right time for me. exactly the kind of thing i want to play.

I'm in the same boat as RS; this is the perfect game for me, being released at the perfect time. I'm going to sink my whole week into it and just become immersed in the world.

I really wanted to like oblivion but the theme and setting really turned me off; a version of oblivion set in 'the road' however... oh boyyyyyyyy

I've read some pretty annoying harping by fallout fans all over the place as well; tht stuff is spirit sucking

2008 has been an INCREDIBLE year for games

It was essentially Fallout 1.5, but the original formula was good enough that I didn't really care.

OTM. Also bear in mind that Fallout 2 came out EXACTLY one year to the day after Fallout, so they were pretty crammed for time to push it out.

I wouldn't be too bothered about the online fan stuff, what do you expect? It's a deservedly beloved game from a decade ago - add the nostalgia and the internet, you get the expected pre-reaction to a game that hasn't even come out yet. As for me I'm probably going to wait until it drops low enough in price, likely next year.

current list of reviews (copied from elsewhere):

PC Gamer France, 93% - Good variety of quests, lots of replayability

PC Gamer Sweden, 81% - VATS is nice, but there is too much content in a game world that is too small, NPCs feel lifeless

PC Gamer UK, 90% - Excellent dialogue, combat, depth and minigames, but MQ is shortish and it's easy to miss things if you're not paying attention

GMC Italy, 9/10 - Good atmosphere and turn-based combat, lackluster AI and mini-games

OXM '10' - "Between its engrossing story, ginormous world, well-crafted RPG side and white-knuckle FPS combat, Fallout 3 completely, utterly gives you your $60 worth."

Click! 8.75/10 - * Gameplay - 9.25 (Playability: 9.5, Longevity: 9.5, Variety: 9, AI: 9); * Graphics - 8.25 (Appearance: 8.5, Animations: 8 ); * Sound - 9.5 (Music: 9.5, Effects: 9.5); * Technical quality - 7.38 (Fluency: 7, Loading times: 8.5)

OXM UK - '9'

Score (Poland) - 93%

Level (Poland) - 10/10

PSM3 - 9/10 (PS3 version's graphics noticeably inferior to the PC and XBox 360 versions)

havent read any of the fan comments, but oblivion was a dogshit game by a dogshit developer (bethesda) so i can understand some frustration/pessimism by hardcore fans

The stuff that annoyed me was kinda:

fanboys: we want X in a Fallout game.
new review: "bethesda really captures X. blah blah. 9/10"
fanboys: another review purchased by Bethesda/Fallout is not even really about X, it's about Y
new review: "the A,B,C,D elements are fanastic. E falls kinda flat."
fanboys: GOOD JOB FUCKING UP E BETHESDA. LOL HI-FIVE GUYS.

Whatever dudes, have fun being miserable.

well to be fair, when's the last time a video game review meant shit to ANYONE? gaming journalism is uniformly dominated by tardbabies, i wouldn't trust a word of any of that shit

It's not really about the accuracy of Game Reviews, which admittedly is always suspect, it's the fact that negative news = shining truth, positive news = ignored or total bullshit. I mean, I'm not really surprised by this, it's your typically repellent fanboy mindset, but still that shit never ceases to get on my nerves.

OK I FEEL U NOW N/H

"The Fallout 3 team's hometown Best Buy in Rockville, Md. will serve as the flagship location of the midnight events, with special festivities including game kiosks, giveaways, contests, and a live broadcast from the event with DC 101 FM. Game director Todd Howard will be on-hand along with other key members of the development team to sign copies of the game and chat with fans. In addition to the Rockville event, 11 Best Buy stores across the country will be hosting special midnight sales events."

I'll feel like a total nerd, but I'm probably going to that Rockville event. It's only like 20 minutes away.

nice little retrospective up on gametrailers for those who can't be bother playing through fallouts 1/2

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42026.html

WHAT DO YOU MEAN "CAN'T BE BOTHERED", YOU SONUVA-- actually, that video is a pretty good recap. (Though I disagree about FO2 being significantly harder - it was much longer but also had many more opportunities to buff your character, much better party AI, etc.) The only thing is at the end, the weird thing about the Fallout license is that I believe it is now wholly owned by Bethesda. Interplay is actually licensing it from them to make the Fallout MMO, paying Bethesda royalties on it.