Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

they're playing christmas songs in our office, and every time 'Let it Snow' comes on I think of this game

Hey, I liked Kotor 2! Yes, will be much better when the patch comes out, but there you go.

KOTOR 2 might be decent on its own, but it's a half-finished mess that really suffers when compared w/KOTOR 1 - the environments are all grey, boxy corridors (except for the ones re-used from the first game), the abundance of bugs makes it nearly unplayable at times, it starts out by plopping you in an unbelievably long and ill-advised dungeon, the quests are incohesive and incomplete, the old woman they saddle you with is a fucking pain in the ass... almost nothing about the game holds up. the combat in both games is sucky and easy, so when you take away the things that made the first game good (presentation & production values) you basically just have a turd in video game form.

oh so hey until the end of tonight all of the fallout 3 bonus content is half off on xbox live

Cool. If I didn't have so many unplayed games lying in my livingroom, I'd pick up the addons.

bought the pitt finally, also mothership zeta despite the overwhelming descriptions of suck. i am now ULTIMATE FANBOY

mad i missed this deal

thinking about trying FO3 now

should i get the regular game, or the GAME OF THE YEAR edition that includes all the expansions

expansions! i mean, u might as well

you'd just be delaying the inevitable

i forgot u never tried this canks! I daresay it will leave you BREATHLESS

cankles is a big FO1/2 fan tho, I daresay he'll be BREATHLESS for the wrong reasons

I'm a huge FO1/2 fan (and Wasteland) and F3 blew me away.

anyone should be breathless for fo3, no excuses. get expansions yes yes

I've never bought it either - I don't really like monster/zombie games, would much rather shoot "real" people....... I think I just disturbed myself.

you kill lots of people too. in fact you can slaughter almost anyone you please except the kiddies.

let's run a book on whether canks will like this

predicting cankles game reactions is like betting on the skins; u never know
i will bet he likes it but not as much as FO 2

he is very challops re: games made in the last 10 yrs

There are a looooot of humans to kill. There are two entire areas where you can kill every person and not have any karma issues, afaik

soooo, just got to megaton

-the writing is bad
-the voice acting is bad
-combat is already boring
-the game world looks great, but the characters populating it are fucking HIDEOUS
-why is liam neeson in this (btw i always like when, say, liam neeson or martin sheen pop up in a game, because it serves no purpose except to show off how huge your budget was)
-i have a whole bunch of nitpicky NMA type gripes that aren't particularly fair to the game so i'll just hold off on those for now

that said, i'll soldier on - the first fallout took some time to grow on me, so i should give this a while too

loool

I'm not even disagreein' just looooolin'

it gets a lot more fun when the world opens up. the start and megaton are probably the worst parts of the game imo.

yeah, that's basically true.
i'm gonna bet canks is gonna go nuke on megaton

called it

it does get better tho, as bnw says

All already been said, but I was much the same. I played the game in a few 1 to 1.5hr bursts and just kept putting it away and was feeling pretty duped by the hype machine, then all of a sudden it just clicked for me and I started really, really enjoying it. I now definitely consider it one of the best games I've ever played. I think it just takes a while to get used to everything, and combat gets a lot less boring when you're fighting multiple Super Mutants, etc.

can anyone explain why every single item in the game world can be inventoried? i must be carrying 900 clipboards at this point. do they serve any purpose besides selling for caps?

is particle board the currency of the future

i thought that was a great aspect of the game, i mean you don't have to carry 900 clipboards if you don't want.

i on the other hand like to hoard, and have collected as many toys as i can find. and scrap metal for money.

mostly my concern is whether or not this stuff has any use, so i wont regret selling all of it later

guess not

Some bits do and some bits don't. When you start getting blueprints for custom weapons you'll get an idea of what's worth holding onto. Pretty sure clipboards aren't on that list though.

i play this game soo slooow, but i like how that's allowed.

still not got the hang of lock picking, just don't understand which way i'm supposed to be turning either of the pads.

the beginning was my favorite part, when the world felt really huge and scary instead of huge and obligatory.

http://imgur.com/H4VlM.jpg

this is really engrossing

i just... i mean, i have plenty of problems with it, but i just cant stop playing. not many games have that quality going for them imo

which is amazing because it's basically just an apocalyptic hobo simulator

walking everywhere, wearing rags, collecting cans and bottle caps to support your drug habits, mangy-ass dog at your side the entire time

apocalyptic hobo simulator

lol

that's funny because that's the persona you've taken on! FO3 offers surprising customization into how you play the game above and beyond "kill the kitten/save the kitten" moral choices. I was captain dogooder running around saving people and then outfitting my house with swank shit.

-this game's a nightmare for packrats like me. i need to see if there's a mod that gets rid of the overencumberance penalty... it's fuckin ridiculous that it wont let you transport anywhere when you're encumbered, that's when you need it the most!!

-the giant bugs are HORRIBLE. i grimace every time i see (or hear!) a radroach

-it's a lot more like fallout 2 than fallout 1, which is a pity cuz fallout 1 was my fav

-it's really amazing how good the game world looks, and how shitty and awful the people populating it look

-i wish i blew up megaton :(

ok now im sick of this fuckin game

the combat is tedious, and there's SO FUCKING MUCH of it. there's also way too much dungeon crawling. its better than oblivion but not by much - its incredibly shallow. also, the game world is too crowded - the size of the contiguous map is impressive, but there's too much crammed in there, there's not the sense of loneliness you get from fallout 1.

i put a ton of points into speech, remembering how in the previous games you could have all kinds of interesting trees opening up and influence outcomes of different events. in fallout 3 it's basically just, like, a seldom-used jedi mind trick. so my guy has zero points in guns, and a ton of points in bullshit like speech, science, repair, lockpicking...

speaking of which, the shittiness and length of the opening makes it prohibitive to start again and try different builds, which sucks

and then there's my main beef, which is that the quests are just really uninteresting. he combat is seriously not that good to sustain the game, esp. given that you can just rape anything in the game with vats

i don't like that 2 hrs in you are one-shotting super mutants, they're basically just humans with more hit points

also you can't murder kids, which sucks - actually one thing that is kind of clever is how all the kids were little fuckin pissants, its like the game was daring you to kill them

you can't do a low-int playthrough, which sucks

the karma system's in need of revamping, and speaking of which they really screwed up by not including a numerical karma counter

there was one thing i kinda liked that reminded me of a quest from the old games, where you encounter this tower filled with rich people and there's some ghouls who want to live there - so you find the peaceful solution and convince the ghouls not to attack and convince the tower owner to let them live there, all's well that end's well. except when you go back to the tower later on, the place is completely empty except for the three ghouls, because they'd murdered everyone in the building.

here's another good comparison between the games - in fo1, one of the most memorable things for me was when you try to get that girl back from the slavers, but right away you can be like hey fuck her, can I just join yall. i went to the slaver town in FO3 earlier, and there was literally nothing you could do besides a) buy slaves b) kill them all. and there's no REASON to, cause all of the npcs have like 5 lines of dialog!

you've done an awful lot in a short space of time, jees I've had this game for months and not done half of what you've mentioned.

I don't remember if there is a difficulty setting? but you cannot just rape anything in vats, especially if you put all your points into speech! there is one laser type gun they give you way too early that is pretty overpowered.

and please:

this: http://imgur.com/Rud5l.jpg

vs this: http://imgur.com/kuWoPl.jpg

yeah, thats a tough call.

yeah well, i'm starting over as a melee expert just to try and make things challenging

fallout 1/2 are my favorite games of all time and I haven't played this (or any computer game for yearsss)

my ex-roommate was playing it on xbox and it looked combat-y and pretty but I mean there are lots of games like that

if cankles likes this in the end I might play it, but judging from what he's saying, I don't think I'd be too into it either

melee can be pretty rough. until you get that skill that causes people to freeze and fall over. then its too easy >< don't forget to nuke megaton, it frees you from a lot of bullshit quests.

and the 1st graphic is cooler than the 2nd, fallout's original aesthetic is totally unlike anything else, the 2nd one could be 2 dozen games