What's cooking? part 4

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After being traumatized as a child by my mother's pork chops, I swore them (and all pork) off forever.

Brining them and cooking them to 155 (final temp; pull from heat and rest at 145) as opposed to whatever charcoal my trichinosis-fearing mother dried them to cured me of my pork phobia.

quincie, Monday, 6 May 2013 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

brining seems to help, but i can't get the right balance of searing, broiling, baking, etc. etc

call all destroyer, Monday, 6 May 2013 02:02 (thirteen years ago)

CI prefers a cold pan technique, where you don't get a nice sear but you get maximum juiciness with minimum prep. Have you tried that?

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 6 May 2013 02:07 (thirteen years ago)

hmmm no, that i have not tried

call all destroyer, Monday, 6 May 2013 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.cooksillustrated.com/recipes/article.asp?docid=156

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 6 May 2013 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

I have the full print version somewhere, basically you start in a cold pan and never get above medium heat, I think. They might have added a little sugar on the down side to enhance the browning.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 6 May 2013 02:15 (thirteen years ago)

interesting! i just subscribed to the magazine (well my gf subscribed me) but maybe i'll get the site access too. i love how counterintuitive some of their stuff is.

call all destroyer, Monday, 6 May 2013 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

Do you guys eat apple sauce with pork or is that not a thing in the U.S? (if not I have no idea what the multiple shelves of apple sauce in supermarkets are for...)

kinder, Monday, 6 May 2013 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

I always associate "pork chops and apple sauce" with an old Brady Bunch episode I cant even remember the context of now.

Never eaten one in my life tbh.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Monday, 6 May 2013 09:47 (thirteen years ago)

you can eat apple sauce as its own thing, it's a staple in schoolkid sack lunches imo

but yeah, people have pork chops with apple sauce on occasion

mh, Monday, 6 May 2013 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

what, just a glop of sauce in a lunch tray? ew.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

Mind you I say that and we didnt even have sit down lunches at our schools, it was all "buy a hot meat pie/sausage roll/salad roll and eat it in the playground" thing.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

ime it's seen less as a "sauce" and more like pudding (american meaning, not pudding-as-generic-dessert term)

there are little single-serving applesauce cups and everything

as google reminds me, the other great use for applesauce is on latkes. mmmm.

mh, Monday, 6 May 2013 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, apple sauce is traditional with pork here and the pork + apple combo is obviously timeless, but the whole "grocery store jar of applesauce" on a dried-out chop has a mid-century kind of feel to it? You can achieve a way tastier version by throwing some cubed apple with salt and thyme under a pork roast in the last 30 mins.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

I have a 7lb pork shoulder coming tomorrow btw. Getting kind of hungry just thinking about it.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Still, its just a mouthful of glop. Its like the lovely japanese bento trays I sometimes get for lunch: they always include a little blob of mashed potato salad in one little cube. I love it.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

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It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

lots of great foods are just mouthfuls of glop, like yogurt

mh, Monday, 6 May 2013 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

wonder if I can summon LL by saying chobani

mh, Monday, 6 May 2013 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

Haha! I was just going to check in to say that there are kitchen pics on flickr if anyone wanted to see my new dominion. I've still gotta make a substantial produce and meats grocery run but I predict great things to come.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 6 May 2013 14:01 (thirteen years ago)

my crockpot pork carnitas turned out really good! am going to experiment with adding more/different things to the pot for more flavor. this time was just the juice of an orange, onion, garlic, a little chopped jalapeno and rubbed down with cumin, oregano and salt.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

That reminds me of my NC bbq crockpot recipe, which I plan to revive as soon as I go grocery shopping! I've had a hankering for weirdo tacos ever since you guys have been talking about meat all the time :)

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 6 May 2013 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Coincidentally, I have a 7lb pork shoulder coming today. Going to slow-cook it, obviously, but votes on whether to brown the outside first?? A shocking (to me) number of recipes for carnitas/pulled pork/etc do NOT call for browning, which downright confuses me.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 11:15 (thirteen years ago)

when i've made carnitas i've browned it at the end (once its been pulled apart)

just sayin, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

Last few days: Cream of swede and chestnut soup. Variations on crockpot stews. Leftover roast chicken and mushroom risotto. Tomorrow: Lime zest and coconut encrusted blue warehou with crispy spuds and garden salad.

alalalalalong, alalalalalong, al alalala long long leong long long (qiqing), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

yah i agree w/just sayin--cook it, break it apart, then brown it under the broiler.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

I third that.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

Something I am starting to really master (and am embarrassed that I have not mastered this previously) is the NO WASTE thing. I'm really using up every bit of leftover, getting produce taken care of (including pickling, if necessary) before it goes off, using the freezer effectively, etc.

Yesterday I realized that the pineapple I picked up was getting overripe--hello pineapple shrub doing its thing with some rosemary and apple cider vinegar! Will be great with tequila when it is ready.

quincie, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, okay! Is that a beef vs pork difference? I can't imagine not fully browning a piece of beef before slow-cooking, it just doesn't exist.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i wonder if there's some interesting food science thing there. i know that on atk they were making carnitas and experimented with browning first and found that it didn't really add much flavor.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

I've never browned pork before slow cooking. Also bonus pts if you tell ppl you made lechón.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

la lechónera

mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

tonight i sear-roasted some halibut, made a two-pea saute from my invaluable williams-sonoma vegetable sides cookbook (cost: $3), and made some modified homefries by boiling halved fingerling potatoes and then frying the flat sides in duck fat with a bunch of minced shallot. came together quickly, too.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

I just realized that I always hold pans with right hand/do whatever else (stir/flip/whip/etc) with left hand. Does that mean I cook left handed? ( I'm generally left handed btw)

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:16 (thirteen years ago)

That meal sounds lovely and delicious. I'm almost done restocking after the move and it feels gooooood.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

i cook lefthanded and write lefthanded but do sports type things righthanded. i am confused.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

I'm right handed and hold the pan with my left, flip/stir with my right

CAD that sounds so good!

just1n3, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 03:02 (thirteen years ago)

i do all significant tasks with left, but cut (with scissors, not knife) with right because those were the only scissors available when i was a kid. there was one pair of green ones, and then there were none. i sometimes bowl with right hand too for fun. i was just wondering if there were any other lefties out there and what sort of cooking tasks were delegated to right and left hands.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

I'm a leftie! I think I mostly use left hand for stirring/flipping. but I am kind of randomly ambidextrous for weird things like applying mascara and playing tennis.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

that cook's illustrated pork chop technique worked well btw

call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 May 2013 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

cooking is a wheel. you think you can cook and then you steam an artichoke for the first time and fail miserably.

next week I'm gonna get it right, goddammit.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 May 2013 03:45 (thirteen years ago)

For tonight's supper I made the Spinach Provencale recipe from the venerable The Vegetarian Epicure cookbook, circa 1977.

You wash up two large bunches of spinach, saute a chopped onion and some garlic, add all spinach long enough to wilt it, then add a mixture of two beaten eggs and grated parmesan, stir well, then turn it into a baking dish and bake at 375 for about 20-25 minutes.

With that I made a cole slaw and some steamed brussels sprouts, and I served it all with french bread from a local bakery and butter.

Aimless, Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:03 (thirteen years ago)

That sounds a lot like a quiche? And also delicious.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:07 (thirteen years ago)

Unlike quiche it has no crust, consists of about 80% spinach, 15% onion and very little egg. As you suspected, it's delicious.

Aimless, Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:11 (thirteen years ago)

Oh I make crustless quiches pretty often, after Lechera recommended them a few years ago. The egg balance difference is otm though. I'm going to try that as soon as my oven gets fixed!! (The door hinge is broken or stuck and it won't open now.)

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:39 (thirteen years ago)

The original recipe (iirc) calls for:

2 lbs. fresh spinach, washed, destemmed
1 onion, chopped
garlic
2 Tbs. olive oil
2 eggs, beaten with:
3/4 cup grated parmesan
salt, pepper

Preheat oven to 375 degrees. I use a heavy-bottomed 8 qt. stock pot to saute the onion and garlic in the olive oil. When onion is transparent, add spinach. Wilt it for three or four minutes, stirring. Remove from heat. Mix in the egg-parmesan. Turn into a buttered baking dish. Bake for 20 minutes at 375.

Aimless, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

Bought all the parts to make my own sous vide oven! Weekend project time :)

Jaq, Thursday, 9 May 2013 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

whoa! details pls.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 May 2013 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

This thing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088OTON4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088OTON4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and one of these, which I hope will work okay:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I8VE68/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've got a medium sized Coleman cooler to modify - drill holes in the lid for the heating element wire and the temperature sensor; install a grill at one end to encompass and stabilize the heater and one at the other to house the pump. Fill with water, turn it on and see how it goes.

Jaq, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

And, if that weenie little coil heater doesn't do the job, I've got my eye on this one: http://www.amazon.com/MARSHALLTOWN-Premier-742G-Bucket-Heater/dp/B000BDB4UG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=38RDX3ZA000BS&coliid=I1IRTZB02SYD9J

Jaq, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:37 (thirteen years ago)


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