What's cooking? part 4

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i'm pretty impressed by this wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry
in the new year i promise to make more contributions to curry chronicles

Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Monday, 17 December 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, thanks, I know what "curry" means. Effectively the ones I make and many of the ones that ppl describe here seem to come out the same much of the time. Maybe I just really really like coconut milk.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Monday, 17 December 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

Korma vs bhuna vs karahi vs thai pumpkin curry vs green curry vs panang curry vs katsu curry etc? NB I don't tend to make all of those but the ones I do are fairly distinctive? But sometimes involve jars

kinder, Monday, 17 December 2012 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

Is there anything not necessarily vegan I could replace the nutritional yeast with in those cauliflower poppers? e.g. could I do the opposite of outdoor_miner's previous substitution and throw in some bacon lardons?

Just asking so as not to buy something I have no other uses for. Of course maybe I should just buy it and find some other uses.

Curries make me sad because a well-done curry (or even a supermarket curry or a not particularly good Indian takeaway) is a thing of beauty, but when I make them they all come out interchangeable and the sauce always tastes too much of one of the ingredients to the exclusion of everything else. Usually turmeric or onion - I have a terrible habit of burning the onions and ruining any sauce which starts w/ frying onions - or something else not particularly enjoyable to eat a whole plateful of. If anyone has any really idiot-proof curry recipes please let me know!

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 17 December 2012 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

parmesan, maybe cheddar will give you the mouthfeel and umami effect of the nut. yeast.

as for burning onions - turn the heat down (!) and stir

making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Monday, 17 December 2012 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks!

I've been better at onions recently because I've been making a conscious effort to use one of the smaller hobs and keep the heat on the lowest setting, so I was really excited for the last curry I cooked, but alas, still no luck.

(It was a veg curry, and instead of the delicious and creamy sauce I hoped for it turned out as a bunch of chopped vegetables of varying degrees of under- and over-cookedness sitting in some muddy brown onion-and-spice water/yoghurt mix. Oh well.)

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 17 December 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

just curious - are you using tried and true recipes? what type of curry are you going for? yoghurt seems a little odd choice for a curry - it really shouldn't be cooked for more than a few seconds, ime. as for cooking times - you want ingredients to be similar sized for aesthetics *and* cooking time reasons; but also carrots for example are gonna take longer than broccoli or peppers. yeah?

making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

La Lechera is going to take me Asian and Indian food shopping in Chicago in a few days, maybe I'll have more exciting curry chronicles to report after that.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

xxpost yogurt usually needs to be tempered to avoid it curdling/separating in a sauce. it can make for a creamy sauce but it's always worked best for me when you add it gradually, and stir it a lot each time.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

good point but it doesn't make sense to me to boil it

making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

you don't really have to boil it though. medium-low, but you have to stir it a lot to incorporate it into the sauce. it'll curdle if you don't stir, even on low heat. yogurt lives to separate :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

:D

so excited! i'm so glad you will see me in my natural habitat.

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

in orbit in chicago? is that cooking I smell, or... trouble?

mh, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

I think this was the recipe? I was looking at it in a book and not online but it's from the right magazine. Though I was improvising a bit too (didn't have cardamom or almonds, had so much fresh veg that I didn't bother with the peas)

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1089641/creamy-veggie-korma

I part-steamed the veg a bit first and made sure the carrots got longer than everything else but still misjudged how much longer they'd need. Maybe I just used the wrong veg as I had a load of broccoli and green beans which needed using. Or maybe it just isn't that good, cz those books are full of stuff which is easy and usually pleasant but generally not very exciting.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:46 (thirteen years ago)

pre-steaming might be part of the problem. they'll release a lot more water added into the sauce that way, which may account for the wateryness. sauteeing them a little first and then adding the sauce per the directions, with enough simmer time should be enough to cook them through.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

it's weird how they have the directions for cooking in two pans --- it'd be a lot simpler to just add directions for variations below than the whole if 1 then this, if 2 then this, but if 1 keep doing what you're doing

that method of adding the yogurt at the very end off the heat should work okay. so it might just have been your method with the pre-steaming that added more liquid maybe

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

trial and error! but it's def a bummer to make dinner and have it not turn out right, I usually get kinda bummed out when that happens.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

(xp) That's good to know for next time, thanks. Also I think I turned the heat off before adding the yoghurt but I did let it sit in the pan for a minute or two before serving, so next time I add yoghurt to anything I'll make sure it doesn't sit for too long.

That webpage has some comments saying it's bland and watery too but they don't print those in the book edition, ha.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

lol yeah typical huh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

am making the craziest, most heart-attack inducing mac & cheese for potluck tomorrow

5 cheeses plus velveeta plus eggs plus half and half

kind of excited tbh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 04:08 (thirteen years ago)

oh and the recipe is from Patti LaBelle! how can it not be awesome, right?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 04:09 (thirteen years ago)

oh man I am so supportive of this recipe! PATTI LABELLE!

quincie, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 04:14 (thirteen years ago)

i know right? i had to watch a youtube vid of her making it to get all the ingredients and omg she is fab and gorgeous

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 04:19 (thirteen years ago)

hmm. well it TASTES good. but all the 'sauce' kinda collected in the bottom and curdled so it's not quite so appealing in the looks department. googling suggests that i overcooked the macaroni - apparently it has to be super-al dente to absorb the sauce etc. And I may need extra milk.

someone said cube all the cheese (cheeses are shredded) but that seems like a desperation move to me...i think the cheese distributes better shredded.

I'm planning on making it for christmas so I'm glad I got a chance to try it out on some other 'victims', lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

part 2 of my "this is really bad for you" menu this year: raspberry cream icebox pie.

oreo crust. raspberries, raspberry yogurt, vanilla pudding mix and whipped cream.

mainly I am doing this to pander to my 15 yo niece who never eats christmas or thanksgiving dessert bcz she hates "grownup" pies. But she loves oreos so...we'll see.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

and i have always wanted to make an icebox dessert so :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 05:35 (thirteen years ago)

Making huge batches of peanut and pecan brittle today for the big family Christmas get-together tomorrow. Apparently it's a big shocking surprise that anybody can make nut brittle as good as my dad's was, so now that the family knows I have the secret within me, that's my job for tomorrow.

WilliamC, Friday, 21 December 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

VG, this does not have the Patti LaBelle seal of approval, but is pretty much the greatest mac and cheese of all time. I've made it a couple dozen times now; it's the one thing I am regularly asked to bring to family gatherings. When there happen to be leftovers, I like to reheat it in a skillet with sriracha.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

spent all morning trying to find triticale flour. gave up, got rye flour instead. life is too short to find exotic hippy flour 4 days before christmas imo

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 December 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-vKhkjCYAEbZg_.jpg

ogmor, Saturday, 22 December 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

ham poached in coca-cola, roasties, chestnut stuffing &c.

ogmor, Saturday, 22 December 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

wow

that's some livin'

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 December 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

it was fake TRUE christmas for us before we separate for family biz later in the week & it was my first attempt at trad-style christmas cooking w/ all the trimmings so i was relieved not to mess anything up. cola ham is recommended. i have enough left overs to last until real secondary christmas.

ogmor, Sunday, 23 December 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

yum! i def would like to try it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 04:00 (thirteen years ago)

making an apple spice cake for my mother in law with her special diet-approved cookbook. not much liquid (applesauce & maple) for 2 1/2 cups of flour plus sugar. talk about dense!
this thing was like a brick going into the oven. i fear pending disaster :/

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

re that jamie oliver lamb recipe:

the cook time for a 2kg/4.4lb piece is 400F/1.25-1.50
my leg is 1.65kg/3.6lbs

i want it just done, not too much pink - i got a meat thermometer, so what internal temp should i be aiming for?

just1n3, Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

150 - 155 is medium-well. Bear in mind it'll go up about 5 more degrees once you take it out & rest it.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

thanks, vg!

just1n3, Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

no worries!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

Medium for lamb is between 150-160 deg F. The internal temp will rise at least 5 degrees once you've taken the roast out and let it rest. So aim for 145 deg F.

Here's a temp chart: http://southernfood.about.com/library/info/blroast.htm

or, what VG said :)

Jaq, Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

apple spice cake is...cooked.

had to whack the bottom of the pan with a rolling pin to get it out, lol.

tasted some of the remnants. :/
god it's dense. between the oat flour & rye flour it tastes like christmas horse food, lol. so I'm making another sweet potato apple gratin as a backup. worst case the dogs get it, lol.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ christmas horse food

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

took on this tonight: http://www.cookstr.com/recipes/zuni-roast-chicken-with-bread-salad

involved but basically foolproof--i got a beautiful roast chicken out of this.

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:31 (thirteen years ago)

yuuuum! i love that dish so much

zuni is one of my fave cookbooks

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:42 (thirteen years ago)

made grilled cheese sandwiches with italian bread dipped in egg for breakfast

almost great except the cheese didnt melt! bread was too fat i think.

microwaves are good bandaids in a pinch :/

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

Yum, veg!

*tera, Sunday, 30 December 2012 02:06 (thirteen years ago)

That looked super tasty, destroyer! Prep seemed easy but yeah the whole roasting thing seemed involved.

*tera, Sunday, 30 December 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

Pork and artichoke stew for lunch: leftover slow-roasted pork shoulder, garlic, all kinds of italian herbs and spices, tomato paste, fire-roasted diced tomatoes, a large amount of quartered artichoke hearts.

Jaq, Monday, 31 December 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

gotta love those tomatoes! they'll do anything you tell them to do.

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 31 December 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

Muir Glen forevah! I have 3 dozen cans in the basement.

Jaq, Monday, 31 December 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)


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