What's cooking? part 4

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I don't like the earthy sweetness of cooked kale so I usually kill it with other, sharper flavors so mostly what I get from kale is the bitterness, which I like. Lemon juice, cayenne, lots of salt...no? More heat, maybe? Otoh maybe you just won't like kale. :)

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

i like raw kale salad...and I love braised kale...maybe it is bitterness that's my problem. (lol). I added lemon juice to some this time...also tried nutritional yeast, and a fair whack of sea salt. they're cooling now so we shall see how I go this round.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

I did hear of salt & vinegar kale chips. which intrigues me.

maybe I should try a batch of those next weekend as my last gasp

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

there is a good marinara recipe from new york times i have used, and i also often use a mario batali recipe that uses shredded carrots and thyme

horribl ecreature (harbl), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

shredded carrots in marinara is v good

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

i just realized this says 2 cans of tomatoes and i have always been doing 1 oops http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2007/10/mario-batali-recipe-for-marinara-sauce.html

i think this is the other one http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/health/nutrition/13recipehealth.html

horribl ecreature (harbl), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

i just this minute realized that i learned to make pasta sauces from waiting tables and checking out what the cooks were doing during slow periods

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

ie none of the tables were mine

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

working on coffee ice cream - consistently have the exact same problem each time!

the instructions call for bringing the cream, milk, coffee and sugar to a "gentle boil"

seems like whenever i turn my back on the damn thing - even when set at low heat - instead of coming to a gentle boil, it starts forming huge bubbles and threatens to foam over the top like a chemistry experiment!

after that there is a faint taste / smell of popcorn associated with the cream, and although i think that pretty much goes away when i actually make the ice cream i can't help but feel like i'm doing something wrong here, or that it couldn't be improved by actually bringing the damn stuff to a gentle boil instead of a volcanic eruption

what am i doing wrong here?

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

homemade ice cream might be one of the most damn difficult things i've ever worked on, though i've never tried pastries and baking, i'm sure that's tougher

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

a) dont turn your back EVER
b) when bubbles start forming around the edge, turn it down a scooch - it doesnt respond as quickly as water to temp changes, so you have to anticipate
c) if you have to, take pot off heat to calm the boil before it swells

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

is it ruined as soon as it swells?

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

i made some coffee ice cream in my day, and yes, that is good advice -- don't turn your back, monitor the boil closely
also i have had to lift the pot off of the flame lotsa times, it's not a failure

coffee ice cream is so fucking GOOD

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think so, but i also don't have the world's most refined/selective palate
if it tastes like coffee ice cream at the end, i will eat it

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

also how is it that it knows EXACTLY when to swell - i turned my back for less than 15 seconds this time!

come to think of it, maybe it's *my* timing that's perfect, not the cream's

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

IME the forming of a skin and heavy steaming indicates it is just on the verge of gentle boil, at which point I pull it off! I don't think boil is strictly necessary? You're doing a custard-based ice cream, I assume? With eggs? Getting to the skin stage should be plenty hot enough for the requisite thickening.

quincie, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

the skin is a delicacy in some places! you can make postre de natas! http://www.unacolombianaencalifornia.com/postre-de-natas

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

there is an "artisan" ice cream maker nearby who gets his milk and cream from the family dairy farm, he's in his 60s or 70s (i think) and has been doing ice-cream-making professionally for like 50 years now, he make his with just milk, cream, sugar and one or two additions and he told me (in his opinion)

1) if you add egg you're making iced custard and not iced cream (sorry old dude, i add egg!)

2) it's very hard to do ice cream on a small / home scale

3) it's one of those foods that we're really spoiled on because we're used to the commercial stuff which is generally full of additives and/or subjected to processes you can't do in your kitchen

all that stuff sounds like it makes sense, still, i'm gonna get it right!!

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

I made coffee icecream once many years ago - it didnt involve infusing the coffe in boiled milk but did have some kind of custard base (milk and eggs or something) and oh man it was the most divine creamy thing I ever did eat.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

he said a lot of his success comes down to using a big huge industrial beater to get the frothiness of the milk/cream mixture right and also getting the milk straight from the farm so that it has a different kind of fat globule than the milk you get from the store? i dunno, he's kind of vague about it (for obvious reasons)

i should see if he needs an apprentice

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

it's not nec *ruined* when it swells but that can scald the milk which would account for that diff taste you mentioned

never. turn. your. back.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

yeah last i checked there's def a popcorn taste in there, hopefully it goes away with more chillin' in the fridge

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

I made a bunch of frozen burritos with TJ's whole wheat handmade or home style or whatever tortillas, brown basmati, and one of those $1.29 box/foil pouch of Chana masala. I just ate the first one and it was mad good.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

I made some with the Punjab eggplant too for variety. 4 of each. Lunch is going to rock.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

what part was frozen?!?

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

btw the toasted flavor does go away as the mix gets colder!

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

no I mean I just made a ton of burritos and individually wrapped them in foil and froze them.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 14 October 2012 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

ah, good thinking

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

this is a really stupid q but i have never made & then frozen burritos before; how do you heat them up stevie? do you just defrost & eat cold or do you have them warm?

*buffs lens* (schlump), Sunday, 14 October 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

microwave i imagine

the late great, Sunday, 14 October 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

I love those foil pouch curries! Thres one called TastyBites and theyre all vegetarian or vegan, the palak paneer one is deliciouusss, tho I add extra paneer or tofu squares to it as they're stingy on the cheese.

The chana masala is also nice, tho I feel weird eating a potato chickpea curry I could make myself in 10 mins flat with a can of chickpeas :/

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Sunday, 14 October 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

a cool thing to do with the kale was to braise it in equal parts chicken adobo juice and chicken broth

horribl ecreature (harbl), Monday, 15 October 2012 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

!!!!

am so going to try that

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 October 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)

I...would try that, too. Not tonight, my kale is gonna be a salad to go with short ribs and polenta. But soon.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Monday, 15 October 2012 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

stevie inspired me to go for burritos for dinner tonight too

smoked chicken, pintos, brown rice, and some sauteed veg OMNOMNOM

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 October 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

In "can I rly eat that?" news, I made chicken stock last weekend and decanted it into a lidded container and into the fridge pretty much right away. It developed a seal of fat on top and has sat untouched in the fridge ever since.

Is it still good after a week, you think?

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 15 October 2012 02:53 (thirteen years ago)

I'd eat it but I would bring it to a full boil for at least a minute first.

joygoat, Monday, 15 October 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)

Would have done that anyway, but yeah other interwebs concensus seems to range from "trust the smell test but a week is just ok" to "oh god no dont touch it!". Ive a fairly cast iron gut so im not too worried.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 15 October 2012 03:00 (thirteen years ago)

3 days is the general rule of thumb

I would say what joygoat said. full boil, then consume

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 October 2012 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

Haha there's chix broth in my fridge that's like two weeks old and I just used it tonight. You'd never believe my uncle is a health inspector.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Monday, 15 October 2012 03:03 (thirteen years ago)

conchiglie pasta w asparagus, peas, green onions and sausage in an olive oil and lemon dressing

the late great, Monday, 15 October 2012 03:03 (thirteen years ago)

chicken broth can last like a month in the fridge, don't sweat it.

if you're scared just boil it before you use it, or keep it in the freezer

the late great, Monday, 15 October 2012 03:04 (thirteen years ago)

kinda looks like this:

http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2011/10/13/CCUTG202_Conchiglie-with-Guanciale-and-Peas_s4x3_al.jpg

the late great, Monday, 15 October 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)

I usually freeze it! Ive been lazy this week :) I figured the lid of fat on top would help preserve it a lil as well.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 15 October 2012 03:06 (thirteen years ago)

peas + pasta = <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 October 2012 03:06 (thirteen years ago)

I always trust the sniff test anyway, and Ive never had food poisoning that im aware of (oh boy once I threw a chicken breast into a hot pan and the instant stench + weird green colour = INTO THE BIN)

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 15 October 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 15 October 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

what's magical about it is that the conchiglie capture the peas and sausage bits in the folds

the late great, Monday, 15 October 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)

pea delivery vessels

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 October 2012 03:08 (thirteen years ago)

exactly

the late great, Monday, 15 October 2012 03:09 (thirteen years ago)


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