What's cooking? part 4

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There's a spot in Tupelo that can't keep a tenant more than a year or so -- it's been three different incarnations of barbecue joint, and also a sandwich shop, soul food place (twice), and now it's a carniceria. I need to check it out -- if that craphole town has finally gotten big enough to support an actual butcher, I need to give them my bizniz. Will probably go up in the next day or three and get beef neckbones for stock.

WmC, Friday, 30 October 2009 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

I've got oxtail, beef soup bones, pork neck bones and trotters in the freezer for stock making. It really is that time of year!

Jaq, Friday, 30 October 2009 22:19 (sixteen years ago)

You two are inspirational to me btw

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 31 October 2009 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

I've never made pork stock, but Tep talks about using it fairly often. Sounds too strong!

WmC, Saturday, 31 October 2009 02:43 (sixteen years ago)

just turned leftovers into delicious fajitas!

tehresa, Saturday, 31 October 2009 02:48 (sixteen years ago)

I keep wanting to make beef stock (and eventually demi glace) but I never have the time or inclination. I need freezer space too.

Tonight I brewed beer with some friends and made pizzas with carmelized onions and olives, tomato basil mozzarella, tomato mozzarella potato and spanish chorizo, and arugula prosciutto and goat cheese.

joygoat, Saturday, 31 October 2009 07:09 (sixteen years ago)

i wish Tep would post again :(

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 31 October 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

He has a pretty awesome cooking blog now.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Sunday, 1 November 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

A cauldron of beef stock is now simmering.

WmC, Sunday, 1 November 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

Abbot I am a big proponent of I think a Jacques Pepin method of cooking a whole chicky (~3 lbs): put chicky, onion, celery, carrot, bay leaf, couple of whole cloves (secret ingredient!) in dutch oven type pot; cover with H20, bring to simmer and simmer 10 min, then cover, remove from heat, and let sit and gently poach for 40 min. Pull out the bird and remove meat, then chuck the carcass back in, refresh veg, and simmer down for a couple of hours or however long it takes to get tasty stock. Two birds, one stone yadda yadda.

quincie, Sunday, 1 November 2009 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

sounds perfect.
<3 pepin.

tehresa, Sunday, 1 November 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

Any Pepin method of cooking also would probably require you to be drinking at least one glass of wine while doing it.

joygoat, Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

Any Pepin method of cooking also would probably require you to be drinking at least one glass of wine while doing it.

how rad bandit (gbx), Sunday, 1 November 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

pot of chili on now. i used a bunch of guajillo and some cayenne and some fire roasted tomatoes with green chilis (canned from tj's)... it's kinda smoky and i think i like it!

tehresa, Monday, 2 November 2009 02:54 (sixteen years ago)

Pepperoni rolls!

pfennig dreadful (doo dah), Monday, 2 November 2009 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

How do you cook lentils? I cooked them in a recipe last night for an hour, and they were still crunchy.

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

hmm brown lentils shouldn't take longer than 40 min at most, i think

Peepoop Patel (harbl), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

Good lord, I buy cheap green lentils from the grocery store -- GOYA or the kind with the cute jackrabbit on them -- and they only take like 15 mins to simmer until soft. Actually I sautee them in the oil + aromatics before I add the water/stock, so that they crisp up a little better. And I think that "green" and "brown" lenils are the same, technically?

What kind of lentils are you getting, Mary?

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

yeah it might be closer to 20 min, i never time it tbh. an hour should turn them to mush.

Peepoop Patel (harbl), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)

I think I got the cute jackrabbit brand. My instructions were to cook sausage, remove, add oil, add lentils, water and red wine, bring to boil, then simmer for 40 minutes. But in a skillet. After 40 minutes (sauce has evaporated, but lentils still hard) add kale and sausage and cook for 10 minutes. I couldn't wait any longer to eat, so I put some on a plate and left the rest on low to see if they would get softer. After 20 minutes--still hard lentils. Where did I go wrong? (The directions on the package say to cook for 20 minutes.)

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

are u sure they aren't pebbles

luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

maybe your heat is too high?

ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

I have had trouble with hard beans in the past, but my lentil experience is limited.

Another favorite JP technique: salmon baked in a v. low oven:

Preparation
Heat the oven to 200 degrees.

Oil the platter you will use for cooking and serving the salmon with the canola oil.

Arrange the salmon on the platter and sprinkle it with 3/4 teaspoon salt and 1/2 teaspoon pepper.

Turn the salmon over and sprinkle it with the remaining 3/4 teaspoon salt and 1/2 teaspoon pepper.

Bake for 40 to 45 minutes [Q note: this is only for a big ole fillet; I do ~25 minutes for a standard size serving of ~5 oz], until the salmon is barely cooked [Q note: fish will not change color much so it looks kind RAWR but it isn't. I figure it is done when it oozes some white coagulated stuff].

quincie, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

Oh hmm, I guess I always cook mine with the lid on, in a dutch oven or other heavy pot. I'm guessing the lid-off technique is the prob?

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

Unsplit and bigger lentils can take longer to cook - also salt and acids (like wine) can make them take longer to get tender. But more than an hour seems really extreme - probably the heat was too high.

Jaq, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

Oh yes, the thing about the wine -- I might not add that till the end, ditto for vinegar. There's a reason you don't add vinegar to potato salad until AFTER the spuds are cooked through.

I know some kinds of lentils are harder and take longer to cook? I don't have any experience with the French ones/puy lentils/wahtever, but I understand they need more time. But not regular supermarket ones, no.

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:56 (sixteen years ago)

Yes I too have read salt makes them not soften up. But to be still completely crunchy after a whole hour seems pretty suprising! Lentils do need a fair amount of water tho. Like, several cups/pints of water.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Thursday, 5 November 2009 03:14 (sixteen years ago)

i am making pork chops for the first time! roughly this, but i'm using top loin chop (boneless), and i sauteed the onion in smart balance light instead of butter. also just a little bit of panko because i have no bread/breadcrumbs. and i used dried cranberries instead of raisins. it is making my house smell like cookies.

i will sauté kale and bake some yam to go with.

ms. thighs (tehresa), Thursday, 5 November 2009 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

Whats panko made out of anyway? I just assumed it was a fancy japanese type of breadcrumb.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Thursday, 5 November 2009 03:34 (sixteen years ago)

xpost - man, i haven't had pork chops in years. dried cranberries sounds fantastic.

i've finally made it here because i can't share my evil foods on the nutrition nazi thread! this morning i made one of my top two loaves of no-knead bread ever (i try different flour combinations & rising times a lot), and ate it with plain yogurt for breakfast. then for lunch i used it to make a sandwich with cheese, cranberry sauce, and spinach that was excellent. then for dinner i ate ANOTHER piece of my bread w/hummus and made carrot ginger soup (more cream and less carrot than i prefer, had to add some celery to get the vegetable ratio up, but not worth another trip to the store). all in all a good cooking day but i'm finding it hard to keep up with leftovers lately.

Maria, Thursday, 5 November 2009 03:36 (sixteen years ago)

it is a japanese bread crumb... just lighter/flakier and more susceptible to moisture. and made from wheat... but i'm trying to use up what i have.

yeah cranberries >>>>>>> raisins any day for me.
this was delicious. i overcooked the pork a little bc the timing was for a different cut (i did not cook as long as the recipe said to, but it was still a little too long).

ms. thighs (tehresa), Thursday, 5 November 2009 04:12 (sixteen years ago)

and yeah, i need someone to cook for because the package came w/ 3 chops (3?? why not 2?) and now i have 2 more to eat this week and that is a lot of chop and it's frustrating bc i always want to cook something new every day.

ms. thighs (tehresa), Thursday, 5 November 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe turn the other 2 into a pork/hominy/green chile stew.

WmC, Thursday, 5 November 2009 04:21 (sixteen years ago)

no i did them all as described above. i dunno i always do that. maybe i should start saving extra portions for other options!

ms. thighs (tehresa), Thursday, 5 November 2009 04:33 (sixteen years ago)

would they freeze well uncooked maybe?

Maria, Thursday, 5 November 2009 12:47 (sixteen years ago)

I usually buy a family pack of boneless porkchops, and separate them into little packets of two each and freeze. They don't take too long to thaw out, and we don't keep them more than a month or two, so I haven't noticed any change in texture. Mostly I pound them for various schnitzels, though.

pfennig dreadful (doo dah), Thursday, 5 November 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

So I picked a big sack of mustard greens from my parents' garden yesterday, washed and stemmed them this morning and put them on to cook for dinner tonight, and decided to try a Tep-style thing for lunch: mustard stems sauteed with garlic and a bit of onion, finished with red wine vinegar and sriracha, served over/alongside cheddar cheese grits. Verdict: flavor A, texture C-

WmC, Thursday, 5 November 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

Making some homemade mac & cheese...it's in the oven right now & I am praying it turns out nom.

I once saw a lemonade stand that said:

"HO-MADE" LEMONADE

and it's so hard for me not to type "ho-made" bcz that is now how I think that word, scare quotes and all. So epically wrong!

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Friday, 6 November 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

I'm going to retro hors d'oeuvre party tonight; what is a good idea to bring that can be served cold or lukewarm?

Virginia Plain, Saturday, 7 November 2009 18:25 (sixteen years ago)

Thin sliced boiled ham spread with softened cream cheese, then rolled up and cut into pinwheels. Spear with frilly cocktail toothpick. Add chives or chopped scallion to the cream cheese as a variation.

Jaq, Saturday, 7 November 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

Those, and rumaki (chicken liver + water chestnut wrapped w/ bacon, all pinned together w/ plain toothpick and broiled until bacon is cooked - these are served hot) were my mom's standards.

Jaq, Saturday, 7 November 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

guy at seafood counter sold me on halibut cheeks today by saying they were like scallops. they kind of are, but more tender?

i pan seared and then did a saute of spinach and zucchini in white wine and lemon and garlic and herbs. mmm.

tehresa, Monday, 9 November 2009 02:52 (sixteen years ago)

Tep posted about salmon cheeks on his blog the other week, like, he bought salmon heads, and got all the meat and eyes and things out - the cheek meat did look a bit scallopy!

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Monday, 9 November 2009 03:35 (sixteen years ago)

my dad loves getting heads and grilling or smoking them.
these were meat only and nom.

tehresa, Monday, 9 November 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

weird what's-in-the-fridge meal of quinoa "salad" (red + white), tossed with generous olive oil, fresh marjoram, tiny bit of grated parm, black pepper, and tempeh bacon bits. topped with an egg fried in the left over 'bacon' oil

how rad bandit (gbx), Monday, 9 November 2009 05:08 (sixteen years ago)

woulda been good with craisins i reckon

how rad bandit (gbx), Monday, 9 November 2009 05:08 (sixteen years ago)

yesterday i made penne with crumbled (turkey) sausage, porcini mushrooms, tons of spinach, pepper flakes and mushroom juice + parm and it was quite tasty. surprisingly light for a dish containing pasta and sausage.

also orange cardamom cake. oh! and fancy lemonade with lavender-rosemary simple syrup.

question: do you guys keep track of what you make? sometimes i make something once and then completely forget about it even if it was delicious. i'm not too lazy to cook all the time, but i am too lazy to write all of it down. documentation is not my strong suit. how do you keep track of what you make?

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 9 November 2009 14:08 (sixteen years ago)

^^^was having the same thoughts last night. i really need to start keeping recipe cards or something

how rad bandit (gbx), Monday, 9 November 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)

two things:

1) i have a recipe folder where i keep stuff i print/rip from magazines. i also occasionally write stuff down on pieces of paper and shove them in there. that's how i remember how to make chili just how i like it and the proportions for my mix for hot avena that i spent an entire winter perfecting.

2) that doesn't solve the problem of night to night, what to make? what do you want? i dunno, what do you want? that shit. so i decided to try something new. every night i will take a picture of dinner on my iphone. (posh, i know) if it's special, i can scribble it down. (this will probably never happen) then, when i don't know what to get on my monday grocery shopping trip, i can get some ideas for what to make for the week by looking at the pictures.

this is day 2 of that btw, so i have hardly proved this plan successful.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 9 November 2009 14:30 (sixteen years ago)

Threads in ILCooking have been very useful to me for keeping track. Special stuff that needs recipes gets put on-line somewhere, Is That...Pie or one of our blogs. Modifications to standard recipes get written directly in the cookbook.

Jaq, Monday, 9 November 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)


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