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xp - Yeah it fights back a little. (I've only had it once.)

WmC, Monday, 26 October 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

also, anyone (US-based) who wants some Thai forbidden (black) rice, a 5 lb bag has turned out to be a whole awful lot and I would love to share it. email me @ isthatpie-wp (at) yahoo (dot) com Webmail doesn't work for this ILX account.

Jaq, Monday, 26 October 2009 22:57 (sixteen years ago)

i have not heard of this rice!

how rad bandit (gbx), Monday, 26 October 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

It makes great black rice pudding w/ coconut milk/cream! And is v. v. pretty.

Jaq, Monday, 26 October 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

ok so this didn't go perfectly, but:

seared tuna w/"white sauce" over baby spinach

"white sauce"

walnuts
cooked quinoa
reconstituted shiitake mushrooms
coconut milk
shiitake mushroom stock
garlic

boiled water, covered dried shiitakes.
sauteed garlic in OO until golden.
newly moist shiitakes into processor w/quinoa, walnuts, 1/2 can coconut milk, garlic + oil, salt and pepper.
splashed mushroom water w/apple cider vinegar, cooked way down.
added stock to processor, blended the shit out of it.

heated peanut oil in fry pan.
patted tuna steak w/salt and pepper.
steak in oil on HOT, sear each side for one minute.
moved fry pan to other burner, on medium (lolectric).
((FUCKED UP THIS PART))
"cook until down" on medium. i cooked about 2-3 minutes too long, which kinda ruined the steak, but w/e

bed of baby spinach, steak on top, pour sauce over, yum!

(tbh, the sauce was def missing something (more acid?), but it's a pretty good idea fundamentally (walnuts + quinoa + coconut milk + stock), but would benefit from tweaking for sure)

how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:13 (sixteen years ago)

bout 40 min

how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:14 (sixteen years ago)

cool!

jaq i would love to try a bit of this rice, but you don't have to mail it ;)

tehresa, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:46 (sixteen years ago)

Coconut rice pudding sounded great, black rice or not, and I had just the right amt of rice left over from lunch, so I made that for dinner. Tossed a few dried cherries into the bowlful I had for dinner...might toss a few pistachio nuts into the bowl I have tomorrow morning.

WmC, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:03 (sixteen years ago)

i'm not usually a rice pudding person but coconut sounds ace.

tehresa, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:25 (sixteen years ago)

I've been craving coconut lately. I have a recipe for coconut bread pudding that's been sitting on my desk for a couple of weeks...may make a halved version of it later this week.

WmC, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:40 (sixteen years ago)

i kinda hate bread pudding, too!

tehresa, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:48 (sixteen years ago)

COMFORRRRRRRRRRRRRT

WmC, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:51 (sixteen years ago)

i find my comfort in the potato, i think.

tehresa, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

Speaking of food going off - is there ever a time that chicken meat should have any kind of a "smell"? It seems weird to me that packaged commercial chicken (skinless breast for eg) has no smell at all. So I wondered if very fresh very organic chook might smell... unusual?

I only ask cause I cooked some chook breast last night that had a distinctly meaty sulphur smell. It didnt make me sick in the least but the smell was very odd and I got the meat from a good butchers instead of the supermarket.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:26 (sixteen years ago)

Depending on how the meat is handled and packaged, it can definitely get some odors. If commercially packaged chicken doesn't seem to have a smell, it can be due to bactericide treatment (even something as simple as a salt water rinse/soak, which a lot of commercial chicken is subjected to) or the use of CO2 or N2 to blow the film of the packaging line open (occludes O2, so bacteria don't grow as quickly). So yeah, properly handled fresh meat from the butcher can develop odors and all fresh whole muscle meats should generally be rinsed off and dried before you cut them up any more at home.

Jaq, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)

i ate chicken breast tonight for the first time in a while and i am having a hard time digesting it. very strange and also kinda :(

tehresa, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:50 (sixteen years ago)

So I should have rinsed it off to clear the odd smell maybe. It had sat in a plastic bag in the fridge a day or so. I do try and be ultra careful and also trust my instincts when it comes to bad food.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:10 (sixteen years ago)

I made dashi stock for the first time, by straining out dried konbu and bonita flakes from boiled water. It was good, but I'm not sure it was worth the effort. Then made soba soup, with miso, tofu, carrots, shitake and enoki mushrooms, Napa cabbage, and seaweed.

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

How is coconut rice pudding formed? It sounds amazing.

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

Ha VP I made dashi for the first time too, same way, last Sunday-ish. "I am boiling a vat of sea goo."

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:28 (sixteen years ago)

Abbott, this was the basic recipe I used --

* 1 1/2 cups cold unsalted cooked rice
* 3 cups whole milk
* 1/2 cup well-stirred canned unsweetened coconut milk
* 1/3 cup sugar
* 1/4 teaspoon salt
* 1/2 teaspoon vanilla

Simmer rice, milk, coconut milk, sugar, and salt, uncovered, in a 2 1/2- to 3-quart heavy saucepan over moderate heat, stirring frequently, until thickened, about 40 minutes. Stir in vanilla. Serve warm.

-- except I didn't measure the rice so I think it was a little more than 1.5 cups; I didn't want to use half a can of coconut milk so I put a whole can in a big measuring cup and added (2%) milk until I had 3.5 cups of liquid. Also I thought it needed to be a little sweeter, but it was easy enough to add sugar or honey to individual servings. It was really good.

WmC, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

i once made a crazy rice pudding from available items, which included:

*leftover cooked rice
* vanilla flavored "international creamers" (2)
* milk
*crushed cardamom seeds ( why i had these and not vanilla extract: i was at a vacation house and someone brought the cardamom*)
* crumbled up stale gingerbread cookies
* sugar
*coconut flakes (unsweetened)
* raisins

it was delicious! you couldn't even tell that there was gross "international creamer" in there.

*"brought the cardamom" has to be a euphemism for something. "I thought the party was a real dud, but then [person x] brought the cardamom and we had a blast"

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 01:56 (sixteen years ago)

I'm boiling a chicken right now to tear the flesh up for salads, curries, etc. I got this from my mom, buying fryers when they're cheap & just boiling 'em. Makes cooking a lot faster to have this premade chicken sitting around. This time, tho, I'm more stoked on getting stock out of it than the chicken itself!

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

This time of year always gets me in a stock-making mood.

WmC, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)

oh hey that is a good idea

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)

There's a spot in Tupelo that can't keep a tenant more than a year or so -- it's been three different incarnations of barbecue joint, and also a sandwich shop, soul food place (twice), and now it's a carniceria. I need to check it out -- if that craphole town has finally gotten big enough to support an actual butcher, I need to give them my bizniz. Will probably go up in the next day or three and get beef neckbones for stock.

WmC, Friday, 30 October 2009 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

I've got oxtail, beef soup bones, pork neck bones and trotters in the freezer for stock making. It really is that time of year!

Jaq, Friday, 30 October 2009 22:19 (sixteen years ago)

You two are inspirational to me btw

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 31 October 2009 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

I've never made pork stock, but Tep talks about using it fairly often. Sounds too strong!

WmC, Saturday, 31 October 2009 02:43 (sixteen years ago)

just turned leftovers into delicious fajitas!

tehresa, Saturday, 31 October 2009 02:48 (sixteen years ago)

I keep wanting to make beef stock (and eventually demi glace) but I never have the time or inclination. I need freezer space too.

Tonight I brewed beer with some friends and made pizzas with carmelized onions and olives, tomato basil mozzarella, tomato mozzarella potato and spanish chorizo, and arugula prosciutto and goat cheese.

joygoat, Saturday, 31 October 2009 07:09 (sixteen years ago)

i wish Tep would post again :(

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 31 October 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

He has a pretty awesome cooking blog now.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Sunday, 1 November 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

A cauldron of beef stock is now simmering.

WmC, Sunday, 1 November 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

Abbot I am a big proponent of I think a Jacques Pepin method of cooking a whole chicky (~3 lbs): put chicky, onion, celery, carrot, bay leaf, couple of whole cloves (secret ingredient!) in dutch oven type pot; cover with H20, bring to simmer and simmer 10 min, then cover, remove from heat, and let sit and gently poach for 40 min. Pull out the bird and remove meat, then chuck the carcass back in, refresh veg, and simmer down for a couple of hours or however long it takes to get tasty stock. Two birds, one stone yadda yadda.

quincie, Sunday, 1 November 2009 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

sounds perfect.
<3 pepin.

tehresa, Sunday, 1 November 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

Any Pepin method of cooking also would probably require you to be drinking at least one glass of wine while doing it.

joygoat, Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

Any Pepin method of cooking also would probably require you to be drinking at least one glass of wine while doing it.

how rad bandit (gbx), Sunday, 1 November 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

pot of chili on now. i used a bunch of guajillo and some cayenne and some fire roasted tomatoes with green chilis (canned from tj's)... it's kinda smoky and i think i like it!

tehresa, Monday, 2 November 2009 02:54 (sixteen years ago)

Pepperoni rolls!

pfennig dreadful (doo dah), Monday, 2 November 2009 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

How do you cook lentils? I cooked them in a recipe last night for an hour, and they were still crunchy.

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

hmm brown lentils shouldn't take longer than 40 min at most, i think

Peepoop Patel (harbl), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

Good lord, I buy cheap green lentils from the grocery store -- GOYA or the kind with the cute jackrabbit on them -- and they only take like 15 mins to simmer until soft. Actually I sautee them in the oil + aromatics before I add the water/stock, so that they crisp up a little better. And I think that "green" and "brown" lenils are the same, technically?

What kind of lentils are you getting, Mary?

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

yeah it might be closer to 20 min, i never time it tbh. an hour should turn them to mush.

Peepoop Patel (harbl), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)

I think I got the cute jackrabbit brand. My instructions were to cook sausage, remove, add oil, add lentils, water and red wine, bring to boil, then simmer for 40 minutes. But in a skillet. After 40 minutes (sauce has evaporated, but lentils still hard) add kale and sausage and cook for 10 minutes. I couldn't wait any longer to eat, so I put some on a plate and left the rest on low to see if they would get softer. After 20 minutes--still hard lentils. Where did I go wrong? (The directions on the package say to cook for 20 minutes.)

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

are u sure they aren't pebbles

luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

maybe your heat is too high?

ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

I have had trouble with hard beans in the past, but my lentil experience is limited.

Another favorite JP technique: salmon baked in a v. low oven:

Preparation
Heat the oven to 200 degrees.

Oil the platter you will use for cooking and serving the salmon with the canola oil.

Arrange the salmon on the platter and sprinkle it with 3/4 teaspoon salt and 1/2 teaspoon pepper.

Turn the salmon over and sprinkle it with the remaining 3/4 teaspoon salt and 1/2 teaspoon pepper.

Bake for 40 to 45 minutes [Q note: this is only for a big ole fillet; I do ~25 minutes for a standard size serving of ~5 oz], until the salmon is barely cooked [Q note: fish will not change color much so it looks kind RAWR but it isn't. I figure it is done when it oozes some white coagulated stuff].

quincie, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

Oh hmm, I guess I always cook mine with the lid on, in a dutch oven or other heavy pot. I'm guessing the lid-off technique is the prob?

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

Unsplit and bigger lentils can take longer to cook - also salt and acids (like wine) can make them take longer to get tender. But more than an hour seems really extreme - probably the heat was too high.

Jaq, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)


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