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a hoy hoy, Thursday, 2 January 2014 08:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Big Dave is returning.
Henry vs. Lesnar.
Bryan and the Wyatts.
Roman motherfucking Reigns.
Gold motherfucking Dust.
All tag team wrestling.
The potential of El Generico being called up. (And supposedly all those NXT guys are rocking it.)
2014 is going to be great.

The Great Khali.
The Miz and Kofi Kingston.
All the divas currently on Raw and will be forevz because of Total Divas (NXT ones are supposedly great, and trained by Death Ray. Oh and discounting AJ obv.)
Michael motherfucking Cole.
Jerry the childfuc-king Lawler.
Randy Orton.
The return of Sheamus.
Triple H still wrestling 3 times a year.
Alberto Del Rio.
Whenever they decide to do some very awkward storyline about Darren Young's sexuality.
2014 is going to be shit.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 2 January 2014 08:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Shoot cena orton sheamus. Have big show put down.

Punk Bryan reigns Rhodes Ambrose Rollins Wyatt cesaro as the uppercard. Would watch

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

tbf orton has just had his least boring in-ring year in ages and ages, he was putting on v good matches pretty routinely

papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 3 January 2014 06:01 (five years ago) Permalink

(and he is one of, if not my least favorite main eventer of all time)

papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 3 January 2014 06:01 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i genuinely don't understand orton as a main event guy. i know i missed 03-09 but fuuuucking hell the bits ive seen of it going back are dull as shit, seemingly especially when they include orton. i understand lots of better people retired, died or tna'd (nicest way to put it i guess) but fucking hell, how everyone went through that and decided orton earned enough rep to still be holding the belt FIVE YEARS LATER is beyond me.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 3 January 2014 08:53 (five years ago) Permalink

ahhh yeah i missed 05-11, by the time i was back they had orton holding the WHC right around the time it was transitioning to a secondary title. i'll ride for his recent heel run but dude was putting on some of the dullest matches on cards for ages. mystifying to me whenever older guys talk him up as some kind of can't-miss talent.

(some of the other talent they were really pushing at that time was mystifying too. fucking bobby lashley?)

papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 4 January 2014 05:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't help but feel that this whole network thing is going to flop hard. Content on offer at launch just looks like overkill. A whole tv network dedicated to recaps and highlight shows

* All 12 current WWE pay-per-view events – including WrestleMania – will be available to subscribers live, as well as on demand.
* Live pay-per-view 30 minute pre- and post-shows.
* Raw and Smackdown preshows: Every Monday and Friday night, WWE Network will air 30 minute pre- and post-shows for WWE's weekly cable programs Monday Night Raw and Friday Night SmackDown.
* The Monday Night War – a series exploring the shocking real-life stories that fueled the mid-90s rivalry between WWE and WCW®. Battling for ratings dominance, WWE's Vince McMahon and WCW's Ted Turner engaged in a masterful game of one-upmanship, and in the process, elevated WWE Monday Night Raw and WCW Monday Nitro to all-new levels of pop-culture relevance.
* WrestleMania Rewind – a comprehensive look back at the most groundbreaking matches and dramatic moments in WrestleMania history, including never-before-seen footage and in-depth interviews.
* WWE Countdown – a one hour, groundbreaking, interactive, countdown series that puts the power squarely in viewers' hands by giving the audience the chance to discuss and rank WWE's most spectacular Superstars, unexpected moments, best catch phrases and more through digital polling and social media interaction.
* WWE NXT® – WWE Superstars and Divas of tomorrow face off every week on WWE NXT, a one-hour weekly show that features the brightest and best of WWE's rising stars. WWE NXT showcases the Superstars and Divas from WWE's Performance Center as well as appearances from WWE Superstars and Legends in an intimate setting. WWE NXT broadcasts from the state-of-the-art Full Sail LIVE venue on the Full Sail University in campus in Orlando, Florida.
* WWE Superstars – a one-hour weekly show highlighting the best of WWE Superstars and Divas in heart-pounding matches. Features highlights from all WWE programming, as well as a special glimpse at everything going on in the WWE Universe.

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 9 January 2014 11:49 (five years ago) Permalink

otoh of course:

* WWE Legends House – WWE's greatest Legends reunite for a new title – only this time, they're competing outside of the ring. Imagine a beautiful house in the suburbs – perfectly furnished, with gorgeous landscaping, a lovely pool and quiet, respectable neighbors. WWE Superstars from the past including Rowdy Roddy Piper, Tony Atlas and Hacksaw Jim Duggan will turn the neighborhood upside down as the house staff tries their best to keep these Legends on time, on speaking terms, and out of trouble in this new reality show.

Cast: Gene Okerlund, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Hillbilly Jim, Howard Finkel, Jimmy Hart, Roddy Piper, Pat Patterson and Tony Atlas.

WOULD WATCH

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 9 January 2014 11:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Personally I feel like it will be a success. It costs as much as people pay for mania, I think, for 6 months of goodies and will most probably knock out a large chunk of illegal streaming, youtube royalties they aren't getting and such. I think I'll pay it when it is available over here, mainly because I don't have Sky.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 January 2014 13:48 (five years ago) Permalink

If they could get as many people who bought december to dismember to go for it, on top of who buy the occasional ppv/typical wm buyrates, its fucking golden.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 January 2014 13:52 (five years ago) Permalink

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a hoy hoy, Monday, 27 January 2014 06:21 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't remember I saw a crowd that fucked off. Jeff Hardy at Victory Road?

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Make all of your babyfaces lose, including the two main ones in the company Cena and Bryan, the tag champs to the FUCKING NEW AGE OUTLAWS, a non match with Brock and then no Bryan in the rumble, eliminating the guy who anyone could still get behind... poor fucking Rey Mysterio.

That was Great American Bash 1991 levels of bad heat. And lol the rumble was the best they had in years. Last PPV before the network and they think the best statement they can make it fans is fuck what you think you like, heres our shit. This is going to be a disaster.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 27 January 2014 06:26 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXRoe3vui0

a hoy hoy, Monday, 27 January 2014 07:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I feel like they've forgotten how to book the Rumble properly. Punk was supposed to get the Iron Man push but he didn't really do anything in the match. The announcers kept talking about how long he'd been in there but there were no big spots, near eliminations, etc. Same with Reigns, it didn't really feel like a dominating performance, he just sort of outlasted everyone without doing anything all that impressive.

Bad timing for Batista, right guy, but bad timing and in front of the wrong crowds. But it's not the first time that WWE crowds shit all over returning stars who showed up expecting to be back in the main events right away.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 27 January 2014 09:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Idk, I agree with ahoyboy on this. Obviously the E has a track record of doing their own thing regardless of fan expectations, but this is egregious even by their standards.

Bryan is just so over! He's patently the only guy in the company that the fans want to see in the main event right now. It's one thing when they're stubbornly refusing to push a guy who the smarks like but who doesn't get great reactions. This is the most consistently over guy they've had for a very long time. When else have they had a guy who got such great reactions and wouldn't get behind him? Even fuxking Jeff hardy forced his way in eventually, and he was never this over.

They can't write this off as just a bunch of smart fans throwing their toys out of the pram, everyone wants to see Bryan make it.

Batista is absolutely not the right guy! I mean, who the fuck wants to see Batista main event wrestlemania?! He was a big star, sure, but I'll be amazed if he brings in the buys or the ratings to justify not running with Bryan. And if they keep the belt on orton then their match at wm is goin to be a total snoozefest. I hope the fans do shit all over it (entirely possible at this point).

The line is that quality always rises to the top and if you're any good then the fans will eventually get behind you and then you'll be a star. What a load of bs.

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Monday, 27 January 2014 10:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I agree with all that, by "right guy" I meant that there's nothing wrong with bringing Batista back and having him main event some PPV's. He was a main eventer before, he left when he was still on top, and there are plenty of fresh matchups for him. There's money in Batista, but bringing him back for the Rumble and parachuting him into the WM main event is not what anyone wants to see right now. WM is supposed to be the culmination of the storylines of the previous year, so unless you're the Rock, people want to see the guy who paid his dues all year get the big win, not some guy who just shows up and gets anointed into the main event.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 27 January 2014 12:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Big Dave was so gassed by the time he got to the ring, it was like a Warrior hof tribute. And then he couldnt celebrate at the end because he was having a cardio heart attack. If it is Orton v. Batista at WM, something has to give. Most important of which is Dave getting used to a treadmill.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 27 January 2014 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

The entire arena was booing the shit out of him so there wasn't much to celebrate anyway.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 27 January 2014 17:36 (five years ago) Permalink

I wish the fed had some balls and fired/demoted a bunch of people. It feels like WCW in 98/99 right now with an incredibly talented undercard and no-one giving a shit about the top guys. Roman Reigns is a fucking beast... with no real obvious main event match at WM other than going first pointlessly breaking up the Shield.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 27 January 2014 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Well on the one hand I'm kind of grateful that we get this much. The very fact that the card at the moment has such great depth and they're prepared to at least try and use it is a step up from what things had been like from 2006, at least. But yeah, it does have the feel of WWE circa 2002/2003 when the uppercard was stacked with stars and nostalgia acts who would shortly be on their way out (Rocky, Austin, Goldberg, Steiner, Hogan, Nash and more, all heading off at different points around now), with the likes of Lesnar, Angle, Guerrero, Benoit, Jericho, Edge, Christian, Mysterio, RVD etc. all champing at the bit to get their crack at the top. It was no accident that when so many of the top guys did eventually move on 2004 featured some really great matches and moments.

Definitely feel that even outside of Cena and Orton (lest we forget, in 2004 and 2005 HHH and Taker were as ominpresent as ever) there are so many hosses just clogging shit up now - Sheamus, Del Rio, Kane, Big Show, Ryback, Mysterio are the main ones who I kinda wish would just gtfo now - even Sexual Chocolate has had his day in the sun now.

Bryan, Lesnar, Punk, Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler, Langston, Rhodes, Cesaro - there's enough here to have a really dynamic, entertaining wrestling product if anyone in charge was that way inclined. Not that any of that matters really, these guys will largely be used to get other people over and make the hosses look good, with an occasional run to keep their fans quiet (obviously this doesn't apply to Lesnar, Punk, maybe soon Reigns). Twas ever thus

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:57 (five years ago) Permalink

now now now

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I dont watch nxt but people love that Rusev dude from last night. Generico is down there too, as well as a couple others who get high praise.

They've not done a post-mania firing for a couple years. Fucking how the likes of Miz, ADR etc. are still there I don't know. They honestly could shave like half their wage bill and no-one would notice. Evan Bourne hasn't wrestled in 2 years, for example.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 27 January 2014 19:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah I don't know too much about the NXT guys. Think the only thing I've seen was that Generico / Cesaro 2 out of 3 falls match, which was damn good.

There are certainly some wrestlers on the roster who are very stale now after years of being misused and will probably never set the world on fire but who could contribute a good deal were the focus to shift on to the wrestlers listed up-thread. Evan Bourne would probably qualify here I think. Likewise Kofi, Jack Swagger, Fandango, Barrett, Tyson Kidd.

None of them really able to go out there with yr Ortons, Cenas, Sheamuses and bring anything other than a dull match, but put in there with Bryan, Punk, Ziggler, Cesaro, Rollins et al. I definitely think they could have solid-to-good mid-card matches and feuds on a regular basis. I reckon they should bring back John Morrison tbh, probably the worst mic-worker in the company but he was more than capable of keeping pace with a good opponent.

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 12:03 (five years ago) Permalink

NXT is, by some margin, the best WWE program right now.

papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 16:03 (five years ago) Permalink

my friend cant kick the wwe habit but I stopped watching around the hhh corpse fucking era but dip in every now and again..

how in the fuck are they still rolling out the same main eventers since then?

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Interesting time to be asking that question imo. Since they started focussing more on sustainability and merch sales and the like (basically ever since they bought out wcw) the live audience has become noticeably less vocal (with a few exceptions). The younger fans and casuals like cena, basically, and orton and Batista, so why change a model that works?

And contrary to what some might say, I don't believe that this bears much relation to the received wisdom that wcw collapsed because they stuck with the old faces rather than pushing new talent. Because like him or not, cena is still good business. If he gets booed by the "smarter" fans, so what? Ratings and buys are stable with him at the top.

But this whole thing with Daniel Bryan, this is perhaps a sign that they are reaching, or have reached, a parting of the ways. Orton/cena is the rivalry of this whole era/situation, and last night may have been an indication that even casual fans are bored to shit with this rubbish.

Bryan is fresh, he's hot and he's a damn fine worker. Maybe last night was a sign that they aren't gonna get away with wheeling out the same main event acts for much longer? Once even the casual fans are pissed its hard to see what else they can do

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:15 (five years ago) Permalink

issue seems to be that he's getting Austin-level crowd reactions and idk like Dolph Ziggler like house show numbers/ratings

they probably should try booking him as an Austin-level shitkicker outside of matches though, the 20 minute in ring verbal confrontation where nobody gets doused in liquids or the shit kicked out of them may have come as far as it can as a medium

random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Big Dave is returning.
Bryan and the Wyatts.
2014 is going to be great.

anyway, haven't actually caught up on what happened with the Rumble yet, excited to see how the above unequivocally positive indicators for the future of the business continue to pan out

random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Xpost to biscuits - Do house show numbers tell
the whole tale though? The ppl in charge must surely realise that they will never (eeeeeeeeever) draw the same figures on a consistent basis again.

The game has changed. UFC, the internet.. No one gives a shit about wrestling. This thing with d. bry. was briefly a major story on the bbc website ffs. I mean, why the fuck not run with it? Is Batista gonna pop PC buys that much? Errrr I doubt it. May as well give the live crowd something to cheer

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I think house show numbers and TV ratings are important to Vince, for better or worse, and Meltzer was saying that Bryan consistently does worse house show numbers than Cena when they split the roster

Batista did pop a big TV rating last week but kind of assume interest in him will taper off, if Brock fuckin Lesnar didn't even move the numbers that much after his first match

random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

it's a weird situation that they end up doing things with TV/house show business in mind and end up being held hostage by the overwhelming hostility of the hardcore who turn up to their actual shows

like are people principally hoping for Mania plans to change so it's actually a good card, or hoping that Batista vs Orton actually goes ahead for the massive comedy value

we def need a resurgence of the nWo-era practice of dudes getting hit in the head with a half full cup of coke while trying to cut a promo btw

random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:25 (five years ago) Permalink

haha would be more than happy for Batista and Orton to main-event WM were there the prospect of both men getting pelted with litter and cups of piss.

Aside from anything else, I'm kinda curious as to whether this is really a match that even Vince would want to see main-event such a big show (ok so it's not an actual anniversary show, but it sorta is - incidentally, what kinda bullshit are they pulling by not staging this event in the Garden?). I mean it'll no doubt fall below the Streak match and Cena's match in the pecking order, but even so. The last time Batista main-evented a WM the show pulled the worst numbers of any WM in a decade

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

MSG, iconic as it is, seats 18,000, give or take a few crammed in extra chairs cos rings aren't that big maybe; these days they can reasonably expect Wrestlemania attendances to be more in the region of an England friendly or a rally against the closure of a moderately popular hospital

I actually kinda enjoyed the nature of Orton's bullshit stolen victory on Sunday but yeah if he's still champion at Mania it's hard to see a match coming out of it that doesn't get shit on; I guess they might have been planning it on the basis that people would've been psyched to see unpopular Orton destroyed by popular Big Fuckin Dave, but the nature of BFD's crowd reactions (and RATINGS) might give them cause to reconsider that in the next month

random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:46 (five years ago) Permalink

lool can you tell I'm a fan who doesn't give a shit about their numbers or their profits? fuck how many seats they can sell, the wm's that end in '0' should happen at the Garden!

I keep forgetting that Randy Orton is perceived by top brass as a premium level star who works a great match with superb psychology (have seen numerous ppl talk about what a great worker the guy is over the last few years). Maybe they really do think he's the best man for the job? Errrrugh it's fun to talk about but actually quite difficult to give a shit, nothing ever changes. Orton vs HHH over Taker vs HBK WM 25, never forgive never forget. Vanilla midgets don't sell house show tickets

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:06 (five years ago) Permalink

And that includes HBK.

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

issue seems to be that he's getting Austin-level crowd reactions and idk like Dolph Ziggler like house show numbers/ratings

they probably should try booking him as an Austin-level shitkicker outside of matches though, the 20 minute in ring verbal confrontation where nobody gets doused in liquids or the shit kicked out of them may have come as far as it can as a medium

― random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:32 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well... yes! I don't understand how the whole world can agree on being fucking bored of weekly multiple 20 minute promo segments and the WWE doesn't see it.

my friend cant kick the wwe habit but I stopped watching around the hhh corpse fucking era but dip in every now and again..

how in the fuck are they still rolling out the same main eventers since then?

― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Interesting time to be asking that question imo. Since they started focussing more on sustainability and merch sales and the like (basically ever since they bought out wcw) the live audience has become noticeably less vocal (with a few exceptions). The younger fans and casuals like cena, basically, and orton and Batista, so why change a model that works?

And contrary to what some might say, I don't believe that this bears much relation to the received wisdom that wcw collapsed because they stuck with the old faces rather than pushing new talent. Because like him or not, cena is still good business. If he gets booed by the "smarter" fans, so what? Ratings and buys are stable with him at the top.

But this whole thing with Daniel Bryan, this is perhaps a sign that they are reaching, or have reached, a parting of the ways. Orton/cena is the rivalry of this whole era/situation, and last night may have been an indication that even casual fans are bored to shit with this rubbish.

Bryan is fresh, he's hot and he's a damn fine worker. Maybe last night was a sign that they aren't gonna get away with wheeling out the same main event acts for much longer? Once even the casual fans are pissed its hard to see what else they can do

― I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:15 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I recently re-read the Death of WCW book. Discussing the radicals leaving and that era, Alvarez puts it very plain and simple in a way that makes perfect fucking sense. Wrestlers have their age and then they have an on-screen age. So it didn't matter that DDP was pushed in his mid 40s because he was still pretty fresh. Hogan wasn't dissimilar in age though and no-one gave a fuck anymore because there was literally nothing else to do with him, he was stale as shit after 2 decades. Those old guys, Hogan, Sting, Flair, Macho etc. could have spent 98-00 putting over Jericho, Guerrero, Giant, Booker, Benoit, GOLDBERG etc. and WCW would have been the biggest fucking thing still (well up until Benoit...).

Cena, Orton etc. were invested in heavily way too early and still aren't old in terms of performing. Orton's only 33. And the WWE most probably think thats fine, he has another 10 years. Presuming injuries don't add up, he can. But he's been regularly high up on tv for over a decade and its as stale as Hogan in 99, regardless of in ring capacity. I understand why the people who became big names between 02-07 are there - namely injuries, deaths and WWE not knowing how to train new people/steal from the indies yet. Orton and Cena and Miz and Sheamus and etc. were the best available. It also means they've had a lot longer to get international exposure, so of course they've got a more in built following after 10 years than Bryan's 2 or 3. Now they have the Performance Center and CZW/ROH/Chikara/PWG/etc. so these guys have someone to phase them out.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I've never been one to be all about sales but if they want to give Bryan a fair chance, maybe ugggggggggggllllyyyy fucking beard and goat theme t shirts aren't giving a true indicator of popularity. at least the wee should provide him with something wearable by the public before judging him on it.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:28 (five years ago) Permalink

So... rumours are that PUNK QUIT?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Wow, did not see that coming. Rumours abound that he's desperate to main-event a Wrestlemania and he's pissed off about how many people are above him on the card. What with previous comments about part-timers taking up spots that should be going to the guys who work their asses of all year round...

Almost certainly just wishful thinking that this is a reaction to the bullshit they've pulled this week (it might be partly that but there must be much more to it), but even so, Vince and Trips, what have you done?

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:03 (five years ago) Permalink

on the other hand, nagl really for Punker to throw a wobbler about not being high enough on the card and just fuck off

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:06 (five years ago) Permalink

From what I've seen, and maybe more importantly than eurgh batista part timers and wm main event is that before the royal rumble he may have been the guy to speak up to vince about losing ppv cheques due to the network and after hearing nothing and on top of that and seeing what happened this week, he said fuck it and quit?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:33 (five years ago) Permalink

His contract was up in the summer and you'd think he'd at least pull for a retirement angle within the shitty circumstances but as a statement about dudes losing out on money so the mcmahon fam/investors could get richer, i guess walking out is a decent statement. wrestling needs more people doing this shit to try and stop it being a hhh/vince wankfest.

of course it would be nice if he was trying to be all about the wrestling maaan and tried to pop the indies a bit or give guys a voice but otoh its more likely hes just an angry little dynamite kid who didnt get his way and is taking his ball home.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:39 (five years ago) Permalink

He's been mainly going through the motions for months. Sucks if it's true, but I'm pretty tired of seeing a sloppy and disinterested Punk week after week after week.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:41 (five years ago) Permalink

A pity there isn't any competition for him to defect to. A run with ROH would be nice and would maybe spike interest in the indies a bit, but it wouldn't be anything more than that.

I don't believe in the beauty standards (Windsor Davies), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:54 (five years ago) Permalink

A year ago, Orton was more stale than anyone in the company, but the Summerslam angle and everything leading up to it made him interesting again. I'm not sure how they messed it up, but HHH going from heel to face and back again every week was a big part of it. They just had to copy the Austin/Rock storyline from '98-'99 -- the face gets screwed out of the title, the heel becomes the new corporate champion, there's a chase, and the face wins the belt a few months later. How do you screw that up?

It's obvious that Punk is burned out but if he wanted to go home you'd think he'd want to stick around for one last Wrestlemania angle. And for a guy who says he's so old school and expects people to do the right thing for the business as far as *his* career is concerned, if he was heading home then he should have put somebody over on the way out.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Punk lost his smile

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:06 (five years ago) Permalink

ambrose used the phrase "haunted rocking chair" on raw so it's all good

papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Thursday, 6 February 2014 03:33 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6IpZH_J-sY

i need to start watching nxt. this is fantastic.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 9 February 2014 22:37 (five years ago) Permalink

i honestly don't really remember that match which says a lot about this event

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 12 December 2014 18:58 (four years ago) Permalink

just watched the NXT ep - so good u guys otm

Mordy, Saturday, 13 December 2014 03:47 (four years ago) Permalink

epitome of everything wrong w/WWE rn: (does anyone even watch smackdown) kidd/cesaro jobbing to the usos immediately following a promo where they address the brass ring podcast, in a match where it would've made perfect storyline sense for the usos to lose (the miz is getting into jimmy's head! it's messing him up and affecting his performance! these things were immediately addressed in the promo right after! it meant nothing for them to win! they weren't even acting like they won! it would've enhanced the story and the buildup to TLC if they'd lost! and cesaro and tyson could actually catch a break!) but because i guess PPVs are the only things that matter now, the 8 wrestlers WWE cares about have to either lose to their upcoming TLC opponents or beat everyone else

this is why i shouldn't watch wrestling

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 13 December 2014 04:28 (four years ago) Permalink

also the past literally one thousand main events resulting in a cena/authority fuckfest who even gives a fuck

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 13 December 2014 04:29 (four years ago) Permalink

lol watching raw or smackdown

also lol at how i only know the stupid name or date of the ppv cos of nxt. tables ladders and chairs and also stairs starring not the champion, bryan or the superstar of the year who had a match with randy orton once who is also not there i guess.

nxt was dope. kill steen kill. or fight owens fight i guess. also balor's entrance makes him the new undertaker right? i'm already excited about him at wm32. shame he's already made kenta seem like a second thought.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:05 (four years ago) Permalink

he teased the GTS and everyone marked out, hopefully better things are coming for him. finn should really be promoted asap (he's 33!) so kenta can stop getting overshadowed.

also the body paint's only gonna be brought out for special events which makes it so much better.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:40 (four years ago) Permalink

first TLC response to NXT: DIFFERENTLY PAINTED STARDUST

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 01:00 (four years ago) Permalink

idk why but i'm watching this (in background tho bc iggles game is in half hour) - kinda excited for luke harper v. dolph and i think cena v. rollins will be good

Mordy, Monday, 15 December 2014 01:02 (four years ago) Permalink

luke harper is a chikara alum

Mordy, Monday, 15 December 2014 01:09 (four years ago) Permalink

lol harper nonchalantly dropping the ladder on ziggler

Mordy, Monday, 15 December 2014 01:11 (four years ago) Permalink

usos are snoozeville

Mordy, Monday, 15 December 2014 01:45 (four years ago) Permalink

usos dressed like they're all ready for the kids choice awards

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 01:48 (four years ago) Permalink

the boring future of wwe saves the boring present of wwe

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 02:37 (four years ago) Permalink

Reigns v. Lesnar at Wrestlemania is gonna suck.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 December 2014 02:44 (four years ago) Permalink

nikki wins via sleeping gas

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 02:54 (four years ago) Permalink

An apt metaphor for this PPV vs the audience.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 December 2014 02:56 (four years ago) Permalink

I keep forgetting who is on the card.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 December 2014 03:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Anyone else still kind of watching? And hating themselves for doing so?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 December 2014 03:15 (four years ago) Permalink

still watching! deeeeeean

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 03:17 (four years ago) Permalink

i bailed when big show came out

Mordy, Monday, 15 December 2014 03:17 (four years ago) Permalink

Dean v Wyatt better be good

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 December 2014 03:18 (four years ago) Permalink

oh yeah i wanted to see that. i think i'll tune back in

Mordy, Monday, 15 December 2014 03:20 (four years ago) Permalink

well that all went about exactly as expected

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 04:07 (four years ago) Permalink

Perfectly fine slices of bread with a steaming pile in between. Worst PPV in some time which is really saying something

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 December 2014 04:11 (four years ago) Permalink

really stepped it up

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 04:17 (four years ago) Permalink

completely forget everything about ryback/kane including the winner

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 04:17 (four years ago) Permalink

Did Ryebread win? I think so.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 December 2014 04:24 (four years ago) Permalink

was that the stairs match? oh god

were there any non-divas aside from dolph ziggler who are not twice as heavy as dolph ziggler

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 04:33 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm late to the party, but I saw Lucha Underground for the first time last weekend and loved it. It's got such an innocence to it, something that wwe lacks. I can't quite put my finger on what that is exactly, but its awesome.

beingcutesince1980 (captain rosie), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:24 (four years ago) Permalink

anyone else pulled a tv from its plug socket and had it explode with pyrotechnics in their face?

i didnt watch the ppv

a hoy hoy, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:27 (four years ago) Permalink

If my tv had exploded it would have been better than that PPV.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:46 (four years ago) Permalink

lucha underground also has really good wrestling matches

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:46 (four years ago) Permalink

i mean i am way partial to high flyers and acrobatics and max weight: cruiser, the opposite of everything vince likes but vince himself is so adept at burying the actually talented lunks it doesn't matter

the difference is so huge

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:58 (four years ago) Permalink

strange she didn't mention the horribleness of striker and vampiro whenever she appears

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 05:39 (four years ago) Permalink

matt striker is the absolute worst

papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Sunday, 21 December 2014 06:01 (four years ago) Permalink

so it kinda seems like the ascension are gonna do a fallout gimmick which, if true, i am very excited about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL6YVilSbaA

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 23:10 (four years ago) Permalink

maybe cody rhodes will wrestle them in a vault 11 jumpsuit

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 23:11 (four years ago) Permalink

just looks like fake demolition/road warriors to me

which is probably what their gimmick needed in the first place

fadanuf4erybody, Thursday, 25 December 2014 04:56 (four years ago) Permalink

gd i'm in full on angry fantasy booking mode i need to make a clean break

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 27 December 2014 06:45 (four years ago) Permalink

but god the leadup to royal rumble could be so great (compared to the TLC leadup where everyone suddenly just gets the urge to hit each other with objects) if they cared about it -- it's the most lopsided, unbalanced event and they never give a shit when they could spend a whole month having meaningful matches/storylines to determine placement. love what LU did where they split the roster up into two big brawls and had the winners of each face each other, with the winner getting the last spot and the loser getting the first. would love to end up with a RR where 2/3 of the participants have been placed for some sort of actual reason and the rest are ~MYSTERY PARTICIPANTS~~~~

OR just turn it into a logic game WELL WE KNOW ROWAN'S SPOT IS DIVISIBLE BY 4 AND KANE'S ENDS IN A 7 BUT IT CAN'T BE 17 BECAUSE EITHER ZIGGLER OR HARPER IS 17 AND JIMMY USO BOUGHT THE RED FLOWER AND

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 27 December 2014 06:52 (four years ago) Permalink

lolz. also is there a shit wrestling meme good enough for the 2015 thread title?

Rolling nxt/lucha underground/i guess whatever happens at wm/ss thread 2015?

rolling promote hunter already thread 2015?

rolling exploding tv thread 2015

rolling make sure you make roman look strong thread 2015

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 27 December 2014 10:39 (four years ago) Permalink

rolling anticipation of punks ufc disaster 2015

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 27 December 2014 10:44 (four years ago) Permalink

rolling grabbing the brass ring

Mordy, Saturday, 27 December 2014 12:43 (four years ago) Permalink

rolling (non-millenials) grabbing the brass ring

magi mane - the myrrhprint (Will M.), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 01:16 (four years ago) Permalink

^^

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 02:13 (four years ago) Permalink

av club doing public service w/ this article:
http://www.avclub.com/article/introduction-brutal-spectacle-new-japan-pro-wrestl-213017

Mordy, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 02:14 (four years ago) Permalink

rolling (non-millenials) grabbing the brass ring 2015

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 1 January 2015 17:30 (four years ago) Permalink


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