AEW 2022: The year of the bloody bunny

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I hear you’re a racist now, Tony?

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 2 January 2022 08:16 (eleven months ago) link

You know, sometimes I really like Tony, but this wasn't it, man. Wrestling twitter will throw down for Swole.

hourspass, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 06:40 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, that kind of DVDVR shitposting is a terrible look in every way for Tony, who is just far too online for a person in his position, but I think this may already have more or less have blown over? Lio Rush was the one who immediately leapt in there and he seems to have been pacified by talks with TK.

Hoping TK has learned his lesson though. this kinda thing is very funny when it’s about shitting on WWE. But speaking that way publicly about an outgoing employee would be unacceptable, but factoring in all of the additional dynamics of the Swole situation, yeesh. Wouldn’t be surprised if this has shaken the faith of quite a few ppl on the roster

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 11:56 (ten months ago) link

Also when the fuck are you gonna sign Danhausen and give him a talk show segment you coward

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 11:56 (ten months ago) link

He’s got an injury, right?

So excited for Thursday morning

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 17:17 (ten months ago) link

Danhausen broke his leg at the same show where Mance Warner broke his. Other wrestlers blamed a slippery-when-wet canvas (they must have been using one of those shiny ones like an IKEA bag, or something).

My SO is convinced they’ve already signed Danhausen on the DL. There’s plenty of anecdotal evidence to support that: he’s got lots of friends in the back already (if you catch the vlogs he pops up suspiciously often); T-shirts and signs are conspicuous in the Dynamite/Rampage crowds; and he got Billy Gunn’s sons Rod and Tod over as the Ass Boys.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 19:31 (ten months ago) link

well, i guess it's a little early to call it, but danielson/hangman 2: moty

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 January 2022 01:25 (ten months ago) link

bums me out to watch a banger match and also worry about one of my favorite wrestlers getting injured really bad (fenix)

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 January 2022 03:18 (ten months ago) link

update: fenix is ok, didn't break but dislocated his arm, out for three weeks while they check on it

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 January 2022 20:44 (ten months ago) link

Fyi uk folks rampage is now on itv yesssss

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 8 January 2022 13:46 (ten months ago) link

that Dustin Rhodes powerslam is one of life's purest simple pleasures

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 9 January 2022 01:13 (ten months ago) link

TNT champ outcome spoiled what i thought could have been a great short storyline.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 9 January 2022 08:06 (ten months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my704d_l-a8

great great great great dark last night, stacked bc it was filmed the same night as battle of the belts

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 14:43 (ten months ago) link

Here's what the print mag looks like when it's folded out. And yes, these are voted BY OUR READERS, and it's a shoot, brother. pic.twitter.com/OzRivCofFn

— Kevin McElvaney, PWI Guy (@wackelvaney) January 12, 2022

rosa/britt match of the year ;_;

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 15:19 (ten months ago) link

i prefer the alternate cover with ms. 500 on it!
https://www.fanbyte.com/wrestling/join-the-pencil-army-the-essential-lulu-pencil/

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 19:47 (ten months ago) link

lulu pencil 4ever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 January 2022 16:12 (ten months ago) link

dynamite was really well-rounded last night, once again felt like a ppv. enjoying britt getting into the superdragonelite mix even though i actually want no heterosexuality in my wrestling

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 January 2022 16:12 (ten months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlAyqXTcw7w

perfect

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 January 2022 17:08 (ten months ago) link

last night's episode was GREAT. sting!!!!! mox!!!!!!

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 January 2022 13:54 (ten months ago) link

cody's promo was both confusing and won me back over to whatever the fuck he's doing, somehow

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 January 2022 14:01 (ten months ago) link

Yea the Cody was sloppy as hell but “Cody is too important to allow himself to be tightly produced and therefore his shit is all over the place” has stopped being a negative and is now very much part of the point.

Anyway, calling back to the pipe bomb promo as really being ground zero for the kind of fandom that led to AEW (correct) and then being like “yeah when CM Punk said all that shit about all those other companies on Raw and everyone thought he was the coolest wrestler in the world, well I actually did all of that stuff, how dya like them apples” was absolute fucking god tier promo work

Also <3 Mox forever and I hope dealing with that initial heckler was cathartic for him

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 20 January 2022 15:22 (ten months ago) link

I've always thought Cody was excellent at character work, whether it be as a heel or as a face. Definitely a much better heel, though. He just has the look for it, especially with the blonde hair.

Great to see Mox back, and man, he looks great. It's a wonder what a few months sober can do. So happy to see him healthy.

hourspass, Thursday, 20 January 2022 18:21 (ten months ago) link

there is a lot to love about Cody, even leaving aside his obviously excellent character work.

him becoming the babyface ace of AEW was so obviously the direction that almost every US wrestling promotion ever in history would have taken but times change and it was clear from day 1 that it wouldn't work (although this would not have stopped many other ppl in the past). it is very much to everyone's credit that they understood this p much from the get go and did different things with him, even if some of it hasn't really worked (Ogogo lol)

i'd argue that the Dustin PPV match / post-match promo was really the moment that AEW became a truly viable proposition and that whole early Dynamite angle where he was feuding with Jericho and the Inner Circle did the air-horns and the heckling and he punched through the glass and they brawled through the arena concourse and "not the dippin dots!", all of that was really funny and really natural throwback pro-wrestling in a way that hadn't been seen for years and was vital in reestablishing that tone - this is silly, it's funny, it doesn't take itself seriously but it's also pretty exciting, wrestling could very easily be like this again. Cody (and Jericho tbf, whatever his other faults) was really really important in getting AEW up and running as a viable proposition in that regard (and tbh i think they've lost a lot of that fun early chaotic energy and wish they'd do more silly shit like that early Rhodes vs Inner Circle feud again).

Cody suffers a bit from being a simply "ok, can sometimes be pretty good in the right environment" in-ring wrestler in an era where p much every remotely athletic doofus who has watched a bit of wrestling can have a "great" 5* match if they just go hard for 25 mins and do a bunch of finisher kick-outs (on that point, surely we're fucking due someone who bucks this trend and bins off the Meltzer-boner 2010s NJPW style and does something a bit different in the main events? idk god bless Dave Meltzer for everything he has achieved (which is all frankly kinda mind-boggling when you consider it in the round), but also he often has pretty crummy taste in wrestling and it's a shame that his word his law. Bryan Danielson and Serena Deeb are the two active AEW wrestlers who are consistently above his reductive bullshit and this is why they are the best in the world. i have hopes for Hook but maybe that's just the hype train in effect?

but back on Cody - I actually really like that he can't just drop an automatic 4.5* Kenny Omega match or cosplay as a 90s AJPW main-eventer or whatever to win over the crowd, because it forces him to find other ways to compensate and try and make himself interesting to fans who are now largely trained to enjoy one style of wrestling above all others. the thing i really love about him is that he has this masochistic mid-90s FMW / imperial-era Sabu mad streak where instead of going 00s indy by doing fucking superkicks and cutters and Canadian destroyers all day like the others, he goes proper grimy 90s indy by overshooting the moonsault, botching the finish and setting fire to himself.

in other words he is less good at what is considered "good modern wrestling" but actually he "gets it" way more than all of those other guys who could have a so-called 4* match with their eyes closed

Windsor Davies, Friday, 21 January 2022 03:07 (ten months ago) link

in other other words, there are some popular AEW favourites who i really enjoy watching on tv but who are essentially all about hitting spots with little to no attention paid to the details; meanwhile Cody Rhodes, while not the best at hitting exciting spots, at least has a proper respect for the fundamental principle underlying all good pro wrestling: "if in doubt, mutilate yourself and bleed everywhere to up the ante"

Windsor Davies, Friday, 21 January 2022 03:22 (ten months ago) link

wow really enjoyed both of those posts windsor

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 22 January 2022 19:00 (ten months ago) link

btw the trent/nick jackson match on rampage was a real rager

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 22 January 2022 19:00 (ten months ago) link

the thunder rosa/mercedes martinez feud is gonna rock my world, i can tell

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 22 January 2022 19:02 (ten months ago) link

Anything that either of them do rocks worlds in general. I love Mercedes Martinez so so much.

Windsor is absolutely otm, and I agree completely with his assessment. My buddy has very similar thoughts as far as the popularity of spots in wrestling now versus the storytelling.

hourspass, Saturday, 22 January 2022 21:54 (ten months ago) link

bits of Rampage i've caught have been good (the Mox and Hook matches), catching up with the rest now, just watching the Trent / Nick match. Nick Jackson hitting a superkick and then immediately botching a dive over the top and nearly spiking himself on the outside = a fun encapsulation of things i do and do not like as outlined in those posts above.

Mox killing Page with elbows and knees before choking him out was a tasty finish. Moxley's whole thing doesn't always completely work for me, he's pretty hammy and it can feel way too much like an amateurish actor playing crazy rather than the actual crazy violent dude thing he's shooting for, but a match / feud with AEW Danielson is ofc gonna be excellent.

everything about Hook just works. I cant wait to see him work a proper back-and-forth match with a serious opponent cause if he can sell a bit and he can work with a guy to make it all hang together in a coherent match then like i don't see what can possibly stop the kid. the fact that Taz's meme-over son turned out to be this ridiculous total package wonderkid right out of the gate is one of the best and most surprising things to have happened in a year full of great and exciting things happening in wrestling

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 22 January 2022 22:24 (ten months ago) link

sorry to see Lio Rush has picked up his bindle and is back out on the road yet again. he's so striking in the ring, he could have been (and tbh hopefully still could be) such a great part of the AEW roster. some of the stuff him and Dante were doing in their tag matches, that double-team shit built around co-ordinated rope-running, i've never seen anything like it.

maybe some of the Dragon Gate 6 man tags got to that level of speed and smoothness but I've never really dug into that stuff so that could be way wide of the mark.

either way, sorry to see him go, but hopefully he's not gonna retire again any time soon. you'd imagine even if he's done with AEW he'll automatically be a draw for any indy which can book him at this stage

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 22 January 2022 22:34 (ten months ago) link

thank u both for kind words on the above rants which tbh I read back the next day and cringed at quite a bit (as I so often do whenever I write much on the internet). i like to think and talk about wrestling very much, I think it's all fascinating, but there is a dearth of spaces in which to do so. I only really know of two types of wrestling messageboard (ignoring Reddit and its ilk here because yuck) and neither of them are ideal. i am now gonna rant some more about this before looking back and cringing.

There are the ones where a bunch of very old, very crusty dudes who have all online-known each other for 25 years argue for the 50th time about whether Jerry Lawler or Volk Han is actually the greatest wrestler of all time and they write each other long essays about sundry topics of interest to the serious wrestling fan. these guys generally think that Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, Kurt Angle and many other GOAT popular favourites are totally beneath contempt as wrestlers and that the majority of fans who enjoy these wrestlers are total rubes who know less than nothing about what they're watching.

These kinds of forums are very useful places for learning about old wrestling and different wrestling cultures and different ways of watching wrestling and they can have (or sometimes used to have) that wonderful intensity you get when ppl who care far far too much about the niche hobby to which they have devoted their lives and, having honed their ideas by arguing among themselves for years and years, really get the bit between their teeth and start typing. tbh i kinda think god bless these guys and their little world. in certain respects some of them at least are pioneers. no one except Dave Meltzer has ever written or thought about any of this shit because why would you (because it's often fascinating, of course!)

on the other hand there are other places which are more representative of the modern fan, and these are useful for keeping up with news, current promotions, social media shenanigans, whatever latest revolting bile Jim Cornette has spewed out of his failing liver etc. these places can also occasionally be fun / funny for live posting during shows and the people there tend to be a bit more au fait with the niceties of civilised conversation in the 2020s and avoid some of the more problematic "58 year old wrestling fan with opinions on the modern world" bullshit you get in the old man forums.

but these also tend to be the places where Meltzer's word on star ratings is law, where it is completely verboten to suggest that Okada might not actually be the greatest wrestler who has ever lived but simply "very good, with certain limitations", where every Lucha Bros vs Private Party tag match or whatever is a thrilling match of the year contender rather than a brainless sugar rush mess (and don't get me wrong, i like a brainless sugar rush mess - just not all the time, and let's not then pretend that because Meltzer gives it 4 stars it was actually much cop as a wrestling match).

i admire the first kind of forum but it's the second kind which drives the "discourse" and this is the audience more than any other to which AEW plays. I think this might end up being a bad thing in the long-run.

what i am saying is can someone please come up with a new place where I can talk about wrestling which is neither of the those kinds of places described above, and can Tony Khan then book a wrestling show just for the true cognoscenti i.e. me and my friends

thank u

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 22 January 2022 23:28 (ten months ago) link

true to form, really wishing i hadn't posted the above, but seeing as i did, i'm gonna add to it, by noting that while thinking about these things i am reminded that Dom Passantino, late of this parish, once did actually start a wrestling blog that went nowhere, taking as its starting premise the following pearl of well-expressed insight

"There’s two types of pro-wres blog: the one written by the autistic and the one written by the manchild"

and while I wouldn't frame it in those terms myself (if only i were so pithy) i think he had a point which holds good.

There can be merit to some of the close reading to which some of the old timers described in that previous post subject wrestling matches, under certain circs it can be educational, but in terms of stuff that is actually fun to read, you can p much count the writers on one hand. the guy who did the Rumblemetrics blog and then later reviewed every Fighting Network RINGS show was very good i thought (http://tkscissors.blogspot.com/).

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 23 January 2022 03:29 (ten months ago) link

http://tkscissors.blogspot.com/2016/10/kiyoshi-tamura-vs-tsuyoshi-kohsaka_30.html

first post is good. the first thing i ever read that made me consider checking out shoot style (though i watched UWF / newborn UWF stuff rather than RINGS, which I have only ever really dipped my toes into)

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 23 January 2022 03:43 (ten months ago) link

i think he had a point which holds good.

to be quite clear on what i meant here, although i hope it was self-explanatory, i meant that he was essentially correct that there was no good writing to be had on the subject of wrestling (excepting always Meltzer of course, who is and always has been a hilarious, delightful avant-garde artist working in prose, besides all of his actual journalistic attributes)

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 23 January 2022 04:09 (ten months ago) link

Oooh I didn’t know the rumblemetrics guy started a different blog. Such a shame he doesn’t do that anymore, his one post a year was always something I adored.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 23 January 2022 14:45 (ten months ago) link

y'all

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 January 2022 03:36 (ten months ago) link

:)

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 27 January 2022 09:54 (ten months ago) link

i'm so happy

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 January 2022 13:11 (ten months ago) link

this could be absolute magic if properly woven into the Punk/MJF storyline

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 27 January 2022 13:55 (ten months ago) link

how about those spots in that ladder match? god bless those boys, the whole thing ruled

up until now i had been worrying a bit that Wardlow wasn't gonna be ready and that the long foreshadowed turn was gonna feel a bit rote but man, last night he felt ready (and of course he was getting the hometown babyface bump, but still); ppl are gonna blow up when it happens and i think if they can stick the landing with a big win on PPV in a good match against MJF (and I reckon you can totally trust MJF to deliver that at this stage) then the Wardog is looking pretty well set for a big run now, people love him

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 27 January 2022 15:22 (ten months ago) link

Wardlow's purported turn on MJF has been laid on too thick imo. Although it relied on WWE's bullshit do-they-know-the-cameras-are-there backstage shit to stick the landing, Batista's 2005 turn on HHH relied on HHH and Flair wrongly thinking Dave was dumb and trying to manipulate him and keep their disrespect for him on the downlow. MJF berating Wardlow and going out of his way to insult him in ways that aren't even necessary on twitter makes both MJF look dumb for not charming Wardlow to keep him onside instead of respecting the obviously comparatively useless grunt Shawn Spears, and Wardlow look dumb for putting up with such obvious naked contempt for so long

As such it can ONLY BE that this in fact a swerve and Wardlow will realign himself fully with MJF and commit to the heel role

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 27 January 2022 16:46 (ten months ago) link

I let's say half believe this

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 27 January 2022 16:47 (ten months ago) link

Also: very nice

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 27 January 2022 16:48 (ten months ago) link

i aort of kwym but is that maybe a problem with MJF (mighty tho he is in the art of heeling it up) not actually being particularly subtle? it's an interesting thought which hadn't occured to me but i think you've got to give the people what they want, in the end.

right minded folk have always correctly ripped on WWE's big man fetish but the tiny kernel of wisdom to that misguided approach is that even in these enlightened days i think most wrestling fans just love to see a big old muscly brute of a dude ragdolling smaller folk about the ring, provided ofc that the aforementioned brute is also pretty cool (Wardlow imo is extremely cool). AEW have not yet had this type of attraction and although it's not really polite to say it out loud I think tbh that's a failing and it's a thing which has been missing from the pro-wrestling buffet they serve up. i for one am ready to see this gigantic man tear through some of the roster for a bit

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 27 January 2022 17:15 (ten months ago) link

also do something with Hobbs and give me Wardlow vs Hobbs and both of them vs Miro ASAP plz. did you see Hobbs's get-up on Dynamite?! the guy couldn't miss if he tried

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 27 January 2022 17:17 (ten months ago) link

I guess the logical flashpoint is for Micky Wardz to win the TNT title, show some measure of grudging badass respect to Sami or whoever he murders for it, and then obliterate MJF instead of relinquishing the belt to him - "thanks for the extra salary, you have outlived your usefulness"

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 27 January 2022 17:20 (ten months ago) link

Nothing better than a big man running wild. (He was a heel, whereas Wardlow will be a face but) Matanza in Lucha Underground was the greatest feeling. How the hell could any of these luchadores stop him? It made it impossible to turn away while he was rising to the/on top.

I bloody hope they let Wardlow go crazy with it. One thing AEW lacks is unpredictability. I mean I absolutely love the show and I love Tony’s respect for long term booking, but I just couldn’t conceive Sgt B’s idea of a swerve happening. I also think they’ll go the predictable “be a monster (potential tnt champo)” rout they’ve done for all the other big men they were on sure of, like miro archer and brodie. But I wish they would go nutzo. Hangman will need some motherfuckers to prove himself against too.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 28 January 2022 08:15 (ten months ago) link

Nick Jackson hitting a superkick and then immediately botching a dive over the top and nearly spiking himself on the outside = a fun encapsulation of things i do and do not like as outlined in those posts above.

I know he's not nearly the only one, but the weird Nick botches are always the ones that stay with me the most. I believe it was at All Out 2019, with their match against the Lucha Bros, where Nick went for a dive, clipped his leg on the top rope, and crashed half wrong onto the tables underneath. Sometimes I wonder how intentional some of them are, since they always look so terrible.

And they had me with that Wardlow tease! I really thought that it was time, but I guess they wouldn't do it on a Dynamite, no matter how special the Dynamite was supposed to be. I imagine they save it for Revolution, or wait until MJF goes for the gold.

hourspass, Friday, 28 January 2022 20:55 (ten months ago) link

Watching Dynamite after the Rumble and it’s really night and day. The RR seemed so stale and predictable and old. Dynamite is exciting and fresh and unpredictable. The ladder match was beautiful, Sammy’s cutter will be on highlight reels for the next 20 years.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 30 January 2022 16:17 (ten months ago) link

jungleboy and luchasaurus are just unbelievable

so fucking excited for thunder rosa vs. mercedes martinez on the next rampage

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 31 January 2022 01:53 (ten months ago) link

ffs itv4 dont have the two hour rampage, it only starts with jungle boy having just won his match and christian coming out

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 14:09 (two months ago) link

as someone with back issues, i winced at the lower-back kneebomb move done during the MJF/Yuta match

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 6 October 2022 06:20 (one month ago) link

Just a reminder all, Dynamite is tonight instead of tomorrow.

Lots of crazy stuff going on with this company lately, as far as backstage issues. Unfortunately not surprised that Sammy Guevara is involved.

hourspass, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 23:28 (one month ago) link

despite things blowing up behind the scenes regularly i think the product has been p consistently great over this past month

hope nyla stealing jade's title leads somewhere lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 00:07 (one month ago) link

Sorry if this is a spoiler, but relieved that Hangman seems to be doing okay. Scary ending to the main event last night.

#Hangman @theAdamPage Medical Update pic.twitter.com/NAFnfzFhEL

— All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) October 19, 2022

hourspass, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 17:51 (one month ago) link

yeah that was an unpleasant ending. love hangman so much <3

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 20:40 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

I’ve not seen Dynamite for about a month due to ~Lyfe~ and I thought I’d check out the full gear card

lololololol sting and Darby V. …. JEFF JARRETT AND JAY LETHAL?

Wtf is this shit?

And seemingly no Wardlow, TNT champion or FTR, best tag team in the company.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 12 November 2022 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

jeff jarrett’s debut was a recent low

everything else has been dope. ftr just wrestled an amazing eight man tag match

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 November 2022 16:11 (two weeks ago) link

and the acclaimed are the best thing on television

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 November 2022 16:11 (two weeks ago) link

full gear card is actually extremely awesome

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 November 2022 15:13 (one week ago) link

They need to stick the landing on this one, it’s been feeling very flat for a while now. Time to correct course and go in a new direction

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 19 November 2022 18:11 (one week ago) link

idk i think every dynamite since and including grand slam has been excellent. they’ve already pivoted. and mjf is gonna make an amazing champ*

*i agree with max it’s his time

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 November 2022 18:42 (one week ago) link

got to ditch the ROH stuff and end this interminable JAS vs BCC feud imo.

still feels like they're benching major AEW players that the fans are behind in favour of featuring whoever TK fancies this month, still feels like whenever a new star heats up to a certain point they run out of ideas of where to go next, still feels like there's too much emphasis on putting on technically competent wrestling matches as opposed to running memorable or buzzworthy angles.

all personal taste ofc but i've really fallen out of love with AEW this year.

this card does look predictably sick though, yes. TNT title match should be a hoot

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 19 November 2022 19:03 (one week ago) link

like, Rush and Bandido are cool. AR Fox and Dalton Castle could be cool. Jay Lethal, Jeff Jarrett and many others are not cool. but none of them should be getting TV time when you've got the usual list of suspects spinning their wheels and not being featured. and that's before we even start on Brian Cage, Daivari, Gates of Agony, whoever the fuck has been getting featured matches ahead of fucking Miro, who was p much the best wrestler in the world for a while there.

it's a mess

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 19 November 2022 19:08 (one week ago) link

also i can't remember the last episode of AEW tv where you couldn't look at the card in advance and call every winner, give or take. they've got to freshen it up.

anyway sorry these are all really boring complaints that have been made everywhere ad infinitum so i'll stop. i am looking forward to this show.

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 19 November 2022 19:09 (one week ago) link

i really have to assume miro is injured again lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 November 2022 21:55 (one week ago) link

i think i agree that bcc vs. jas has been interminable while also thinking jericho’s roh champion run has actually been v interesting

roh tv deal is supposedly in the works, or maybe not, who knows, i do like that there isn’t much roh content in the ppv beyond the title match

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 November 2022 21:59 (one week ago) link

brian cage is a very good wrestler, his charms may not translate to tv effectively ever but he’s one of the dopest big guys out there

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 November 2022 22:00 (one week ago) link

I think he's a charisma-free douche and I wouldn't mourn if he was cut because of all his dumbshit extracurricular opinions, but I also kind of tend to automatically tune in if he's wrestling a very squishy little guy or another big hoss he can have a video game match with, it is quite simply good television

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 19 November 2022 22:39 (one week ago) link

Same is true of Wardlow, Hobbs, joe, archer and others. Big dude with snappy offence pulverising a jobber in the Steiner style is always fun tv but there are guys on the roster (including but not limited to all of the above) who can do that while presenting much more upside than that dipshit Brian Cage who will never be anything more than that

Even leaving Miro to one side, I just can’t fathom having a guy like the entirely and correctly beloved 2k22 Eddie Kingston on the roster and not having him be perpetually in a major program as a mainstay of the show, same goes for FTR, same goes for PAC

I didn’t want to watch jay lethal 10 or 15 years ago, I certainly don’t want to watch him now. Bobby fish is gone now but I felt the same way about him when he was all over the tv

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:01 (one week ago) link

Should be noted that in terms of raw talent Jun Akiyama vs Eddie Kingston is an absolutely absurd match to be able to chuck out there on a pre show, there aren’t many obvious contenders for better wrestler than those 2 in the 21st century beyond Danielson

Can’t watch this live so bowing out but I’m confident this is gonna be a great show

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:04 (one week ago) link

wardlow is not charismaless! wtf. capricious ass wrestling fans

that elite/death triangle match was special

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:55 (one week ago) link

sorry i misread that post lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:56 (one week ago) link

i’m very emotional is all

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 02:28 (one week ago) link

Yeah sorry I could’ve been clearer. To be clear - Wardlow fucking rocks

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 20 November 2022 03:50 (one week ago) link

this fucking ppv is astonishing

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 03:54 (one week ago) link

shits gonna end before midnight too

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 04:23 (one week ago) link

they’re doing a best of 7 between the elite and death triangle

embarrassment of riches

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 04:37 (one week ago) link

sorry i know i am less critical of aew than most but that whole thing just blew me away. they nailed it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 05:27 (one week ago) link

this fucking ppv is astonishing

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 03:54 (three hours ago) link

i had zoned out of every one of these narratives leading up and in the ring they made you invested in each of them. blackpool/jac was amazing. i think my favorite thing at the moment was mjf's classic walk-on drip.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 20 November 2022 07:09 (one week ago) link

they managed to land two planes simultaneously on a busy landing strip with that main event.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 20 November 2022 07:15 (one week ago) link

also, i'm not sure how anyone else heard it on the PPV, but i thought the audience was saying "fuck 'em up" until they followed it up with "colt cabana".

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 20 November 2022 07:20 (one week ago) link

I’m watching this on silent at work. WSG in those big ass Stevie Wonder sunglasses keeps making me laugh. Every match has been great so far, including the Jade match, who can make me tune out some times. The cage match was perfect.

Currently watching the Paige-Britt, Paige looks in pretty good shape.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 11:23 (one week ago) link

I’m watching this on silent at work. WSG in those big ass Stevie Wonder sunglasses keeps making me laugh. Every match has been great so far, including the Jade match, who can make me tune out some times. The cage match was perfect.

Currently watching the Paige-Britt, Paige looks in pretty good shape.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 11:23 (one week ago) link

Sorry Saraya

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 11:23 (one week ago) link

Holy fuck a Wardlow backflip off the top rope!

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 11:27 (one week ago) link

Damn, I actually have customers and can’t just watch wrestling. I’ve skipped the old man tag, I presume I’ve not missed owt there

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 12:26 (one week ago) link

I don’t like sexualising female wrestlers but god damn I have such a crush on Hayter. She is such a good wrestler too, I hope she wins.

Whatever happened to Deeb? I’ve not been watching recently, is she on the Miro milk carton?

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 12:29 (one week ago) link

the old man tag is actually very good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 16:26 (one week ago) link

My dodgy stream didn’t show any video package or entrances for the main event ;-;

Excited for the inevitable match coming out of the tag team match.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 20:09 (one week ago) link

Mox’s burgundy leggings gear is awful. Really strange as Max is kinda being the baby face and yet doing stuff like pulling the ref in the way. Also MJF as a Babyface just doesn’t work, he’s a slimy bugger.

Ah ok, seeing the end makes it make sense. Wait, no it doesn’t. Why did Regal tell him not to cheat and then helped him to?

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 20:31 (one week ago) link

Oh shot SPOILERZ SORRY EVERYBODY

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 20 November 2022 20:32 (one week ago) link

regal’s been referring to himself as a villain for the past month. in the past tense of course but… i think he sees something in max that reflects what’s inside him way more than anyone in the bcc, which is effectively in shambles

makes sense to me!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 November 2022 20:40 (one week ago) link

I didn't think Full Gear was a particularly good show, but that was a strong Dynamite to follow up. Thought Starks vs Page was a really good solid match. The commentary in the picture in picture breaks was also some of the loosest, goofiest shit they've ever done and it was glorious

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 26 November 2022 17:24 (six days ago) link

sometimes the picture in picture commentary slips into the youtube uploads, i’ll have to check it out

but yes really excellent dynamite, and i’m so happy for ricky

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 November 2022 17:45 (six days ago) link

I thought both Full Gear and Dynamite were excellent. It did seem like a transitional PPV though, as opposed to their usual blow outs. Jungle Boy v Luchasaurus was my favourite match of the night.

Picture in Picture was great. I love goofy Taz. I also loved the clip on Mox on Renee’s show talking about doing cheap speed and cocaine and getting inspired to go to the library.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 26 November 2022 18:41 (six days ago) link

Mox talking about going to the library high is one of my favorite mox-isms, so to speak. Glad he's clean now, but I still love those stories.

Also, this is gonna, as the kids say, slap. Probably literally.

#FTR’s @DaxFTR vs. the #AmericanDragon @bryandanielson TONIGHT on #AEWDynamite LIVE from Indianapolis, at 8pm ET / 7pm CT on @TBSNetwork!

🪓 or 🐉? pic.twitter.com/rphfflIaRi

— All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) November 30, 2022

hourspass, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 20:43 (two days ago) link

oh my god

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 20:55 (two days ago) link

That's surely a motyc if it goes anything north of like eight minutes

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 21:50 (two days ago) link

Update: it should go EXACTLY eight minutes

They can do it

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 21:51 (two days ago) link


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