rolling Jericho calls The New Day trap queens 2016

Oh ok apologies in advanced for very drunk liveblogging then. Ive made bankroll, im going to the pub and then wrestle fucking mania!

A three-hour pre-show? Only if you're in the States and get the USA Network, no? The Network is repeating the Stone Cold/Foley podcast from last week at 9, then the pre-show at 10pm.

Scratch that - the USA Network pre-show is only the second hour of the network one. So it all starts at 10pm, not 9.

Right you are! Just the two hours for pre-show

I'm inclined to agree, especially since they just did that finish with the Joe vs. Zayn 2/3 falls match. Also, the Asuka Lock doesn't look like it should make anyone pass out. And I wish she would stop crossing her feet when she does it, that's a rookie grappler's mistake. (It was a good match, though!)

stoked for Asuka's first loss to result from getting footlocked because she crossed her ankles from the back

Samoa Joe headbutting an Irishman and bleeding himself is a near-fatal disaster for Samoan kayfabe imo

I also enjoyed Orc Warlord Baron Corbin

just watched Zack Sabre Jr. vs Will Ospreay from the Evolve show on Friday - not bad! i still feel like some of Sabre's schtick is a bit too cooperative looking, makes the match feel like an exhibition rather than a fight.

Will Ospreay looked athletically impressive but some of the shit he was doing seemed like pure overkill - there was at least 3 spots where Sabre tied him up for minutes on end in increasingly deadly-looking submission holds and literally the second Ospreay escaped he was running around throwing springboard phoenix splashes etc. sell something for at least a second you cunttttt

that said, there was a super sexy bit where Ospreay went for a standing shooting star press and ZS countered into some kind of triangle submission and it was excellent.

in other news that will surprise no one, independent wrestling crowds and independent wrestling commentary are both the dirt fuckin worst. everything about the crowd was hideous, it makes it tough to watch.

props to Chris Hero and Tommy End for using 'Blockbuster Night Pt. 2' by Run the Jewels as a theme, that's a heavy song to come to the ring to

Idk if i wanna know but what did the crowd do?

Shooting star into a triange seems INSANE; like i cant even figure out the logistics of that. Is their a gif?

Definitely want to see that ZSJ vs Ospreay match

From what I've seen of Ospreay when he does sell it's really corny Shawn Michaels tribute stuff where he's like wobbling his legs and crawling round doing goofy agonised faces (think he was like this vs Okada for RevPro in Reading last year)

Buuuut he's 22, plenty of time if he doesn't get hurt

possibly not a triangle i am terrible at calling moves like that - it may have been some type of armbar perhaps? anyway it involved zack sabre locking his feet behind ospreay's neck / shoulders in the way that a triangle would, so that's what i'm going with. no gif yet so far as i know i'm afraid, i grabbed the show off of xwt but it's only been up for a day or so.

crowd didn't do anything especially egregious i suppose, just fucking relentless with the "holy shit" "this is awesome" "this is wrestling" "both these guys" chants. and the commentators were practically joining in. and then they did the show of respect to rapturous applause that you get 3 times on every one of these shows. eruuugh can't stand it.

makes me wanna watch old videos of people hurling trash while Jerry Lawler gets his head shaved by Austin Idol. crazed drunken rednecks trying to scale the cage just to get near any motherfucker who dares lay hands on the King

i hate that there are no bad guys in wrestling basically, Nakamura / Zayn last night gets a pass because y'know, wowzers what a thing to have even happened on a WWE show, but as a rule, just give me a fucking bad guy man.

Baron Corbin ftw, I've been thinking about it a bit and like, this is a very fortunate dude imo, because he has been given / developed for himself the perfect gimmick at the perfect time and he is basically set up to have runs against ALL of the NXT stars and the Full Sail assholes are gonna hate him for it and it'll be fantastic and he'll be fantastic. even his look works in his favour here, becuase the point is precisely that he isn't Roman Reigns or whoever, he's this balding dude with just a bit of a gut, who is big enough and tall enough to pass himself off as "traditional WWE system guy" without being an obvious superstar in waiting. he's like a second rate WWE system guy. i'm really excited about what they do with him. give him the title soon and feud him with everyone imo

and he's heeling! he isn't doing suicide dives and playing for cheers or another fucking "this is awesome" chant, he's slapping on 5 minute rest holds and telling the audience that they're a bunch of fat mark pigs that need to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. "oh you wanna see Austin Aries do a bunch of cool shit?! well fuck you, have this chinlock instead" good on this guy for actually having a clue of what wrestling is supposed to be like

otm.

also im quite hammered so idk if i even make it to the start of mania, fuuuck why does it have to be sooo long away

one hour, i was almost asleep 20 mins ago but i'm starting to feel it now. so much potential for awesome happenings

Poor kalisto for being this early

snickers shane mcmahon vs the undertaker

never knew shane was branded

that Flo Rida / Jason Derulo track is one of the better ppv promo songs they've used in recent times i think. I would quite like to marry Renee Young.

noway i make it to 12am, let alone 4am.

also suicido whats yr feelings on xwt? i keep having to set up fake email accounts cos idk im not seeding enough or uploading enough or paying for it? i dont really understand why i cant hold down a membership for more than a week

also is there a funkadactyl whose butt finisher is called the rear view? i feel vaguely that is racist and sexist but im too drunk to type a real opinion.

xwt is good! classics is p. much my most visited website, it doesnt have everything that's out there by any means but it has a lot of it. bit of a chore building up a ratio as it always is with these things.

i paid for a seedbox for a couple of months and just downloaded all big new packs immediately and let them seed. i'm a couple of terrabytes to the good on both xwt and classics now and i've got loads of the stuff saved on an external harddrive anyway so i don't bother seeding too much anymore

ohh shit new Women's Championship! about time man

what is everyones thoughts where it comes to spoilers regarding tonight by the way?

should we do another thread or do a bunch of spoiler tags or?

i kind of feel these thread should just be a free for all but maybe we should just do like 10 big ***spoiler dont read any further*** posts first?

I'm so happy this is the end of ~diva~. that belt looks sweet, and isnt a fucking ugly butterfly vagina thing.

i feel vaguely that is racist and sexist

yeah can't be worrying about this shit on WM night. i mean it's awesome when they're not racist and sexist (yay for women, down with divas!) but life's too short

idk what is best or usual protocol wrt spoilers, kinda think you'd be a bit of a goof to come into the one wrestling thread during / after WM without having seen it and not expect to find spoilers, but i don't mind. new thread would be fine

lol speaking of racist, that's a pretty sweet traditional Samoan wardance from the Usos, you are correct Mauro Ranallo

im gonna do this as a spoiler tag, just so anyone with bookmarks don't get messed up

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if y'all fuck with this thread after that then fuck y'all

i guess i just never watch non 4 horsewomen diva shit to know that stuff.

also dudleyz in 2016 is like wtf you really havent bought up enzo & cass yet? retire already ffs

The Wild Samoans --> The Islanders --> The Headshrinkers --> Three Minute Warning --> The Usos --> Team B.A.D.

I like that you can basically tell the story of the history of the WWE since 1980 through Anoa'i-affiliated tag teams.

Bubba Ray is talking some pretty good trash in this tbf to the guy

"champions behave like champions before they become champions"

they don't even give Roman Reigns a chance to be a badass man, it's so stupid, this guy could so easily come over like a badass

yeahhh ladder match clusterfuck to kick things off again, here we gooooo. Dolph Ziggler looks like such a goon, what the fuck is going on with that guy

do they always introduce the German announce team as well as the Spanish now? or does that mean we're getting multiple announce table spots tonight?

pretty decent pop for Sami Zayn, Owens gets the biggest by a distance

oh it's a WM thing, they're introducing French, Italian, Russian, Portuguese and Japanese announce teams now. Funaki! this is dope

fuuuuck Sin Cara is trying to kill himself and everyone else.

Sami Zayn is over here, this seems like a pretty smarky crowd. poor, poor Roman Reigns

Zack Ryder wins the IC title to a massive pop, we are through the looking glass folks. and his dad's there to celebrate with him! and he's crying! this is surprisingly great, good for Ryder! pleased they're doing something with him

Zack Ryder wtf hahaha hahaha I don't believe it

WWE has to be trolling us here.

i kinda <3 it i think! i mean in general i'm not in favour of swerve title changes onto guys that haven't been on tv for 3 years, but he was so happy!!

bullshit :/

same match they've had 5 times already and Jericho wins clean :|

yeahhhhh this is what i was waiting for though. they are the best I hope they stay forever

Their timing seemed off for a lot of that match, but it was good to see even the second match on the card get some time.

But yeah, Jericho wins clean at Mania in their 848th match, why??

feuding with Roman once he's got the title? literally the only thing i can think of

lol Del Rio very much trying to do his own shit, doesn't want to be part of the team it seems

Last year at this time Rusev was undefeated and making one of the all time great WM entrances on the top of a tank, and now he's holding hands with Alberto del Rio coming out for a meaningless tag match.

yeah Rusev is totally wasted here. telling Xavier Woods to stand up and take his beating like a man and pulling running sentons, he's really good. Was ridiculous when they ran through all of Del Rio's achievements just then, he's literally done everything a guy can do in the company and he's less over than most of the midcard. the whole League is such damaged goods in their current gimmicks

is Barrett really too physically broken to wrestle? he's so fuckin good on the mic

ohhhhhhhh it's HBK yeaaaaaaahhh this is what we're here for, whaaaaat they're saying he's gonna wrestle, OMG it's Foley who's next?!?!!!! AUSTIN?!!!!!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH is this really gonna happen they mustn't tease us with this

wtf

Boring match, but the post match has gotten my attention.

i'm pretty drunk so i'm basically all in on nostalgia right now but seriously, do they have to dick over their roster in favour of the old guys every fucking time? the New Day should be their own thing, they shouldn't be getting clowned at WM

also fuck Michael Cole for insinuating that HBK was gonna wrestle properly, fucking dick, can't do that shit to my heart

Let's get this straight -- the Tag Team champs lose in a semi-fair fight, and then three retired guys show up and beat up both teams.

OTOH, Michaels looked great, was more over than anyone on the show so far, and can probably still outwork anyone on the roster.

right Lesnar Ambrose, I think this might go full death match, or as near as WWE ever lets things get to that. they need to let Ambrose bring the CZW garbage shit to try and level the playing field. bring it!