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1. Fell down the subway stairs and died.

bamcquern, Sunday, 22 November 2009 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Roland Barthes was hit by a bus.

sarahel, Sunday, 22 November 2009 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

No shit.

bamcquern, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

I did not know that!

bamcquern, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

I also didn't know until recently that Sartre hallucinated crabs. I mentioned that already, though.

bamcquern, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

My first semester in college - intro course to the department I was going to major in, then hated, then eventually majored in - the two main things I remember from the section discussions were that Barthes was hit by a bus and Louis Althusser killed his wife.

sarahel, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

2. He wrote "Move." Charlie Parker used to play that song very, very fast. Sometimes the Super Mario Bros. theme reminds me of something off of Birth of the Cool.

bamcquern, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

I think I need to work my way back as far as jazz is concerned - I started w/Ornette, Cecil Taylor, Ayler and worked forward to Borbetomagus, Last Exit, Brotzmann/Bennink, etc.

sarahel, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, shit, yes. You really should.

bamcquern, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

There's this contemporary group that has some "old school" elements to it that I like - Peter Evans Quartet - Peter Evans is a really amazing trumpet player.

sarahel, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

3. Had an alcohol problem.

bamcquern, Monday, 23 November 2009 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

4. Considered a transitional drummer.

bamcquern, Monday, 23 November 2009 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

Denardo Coleman was underrated

sarahel, Monday, 23 November 2009 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

So, what would be a good album to get, if I were to work my way backward from The Shape of Jazz to Come?

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

Birth of the Cool. Or I could make a longer list to increase your chances of coming across something used. But certainly get that.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

if you want to make a longer list - that'd be great - lists are great - ilx likes lists. people like tiny things.

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

Money Jungle - Ellington, Mingus, Roach

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Actually is later than The Shape of Jazz to Come.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Thelonious Monk -

Brilliant Corners
Solo Monk
Straight, No Chaser

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

Charlie Parker -

Bird on 52nd St
The Genius of Charlie Parker

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Art Tatum - just look for those Pablo reissues for the small groups and solo stuff. Really, anything by him is good.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

cool, thanks!

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

Not pre-Coleman, but not really free:

Roland Kirk -

Natural Black Inventions
Blacknuss

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

Jelly Roll Morton - almost anything?

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

I also need to listen to James Blood Ulmer and Ronald Shannon Jackson more.

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

Obviously listen to John Coltrane.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

I also really like New York Eye & Ear Control

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Ulmer's rad. He put out a CD of blues a few years ago that's really good. Birthright.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

xpost I have never heard that.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Obv. noise and vinyl dudes would help. & Jazz D.Bags thread.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

xp - it's Ayler & Don cherry

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

I'll have to look at my records, too. CDs are one thing, and then the records I have a very different kind of catalog.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Ohhh.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

5. He became depressed because of insecurities about his position as a composer.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

xp - yeah, i have downloaded stuff, cds, records, and some cassettes - a bag of stuff that my friend gave me that he dubbed from things when he was in hs and college. He & I have pretty similar tastes.

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

I should make a looser list Sarah jazz list, I guess.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

yay!

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Like, I have almost no Kirk on CD, but I have ten or twelve things on LP. But I have three or four times the amount of Coltrane on CD than compared to LP. Both of those are completely understandable disparities, but then with others the reasons for them become subtler.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

looser list sarah jazz list

Anyway, what I mean is that they don't all have to be heavy hitters.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

And some things you'll grow into, or some things you won't.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

probably my one preference would be for stuff with interesting drumming - because i'm a nerd like that.

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

Haha. Then I won't recommend anything Denzil Best is playing on. Unless you like understatement.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

i'm fine with understatement if it's good.

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I used to collect requiems, now I'm more into "ascentions"

sarahel, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Ulmer's rad. He put out a CD of blues a few years ago that's really good. Birthright.

I listened to this yesterday, I liked it a lot.

sarahel, Thursday, 14 January 2010 19:37 (eleven years ago) link


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