Rolling CHALLENGING OPINIONS thread 2008

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This isnt that far off organized christanity, guys. Actually, its pretty much the same.

-- sunny successor, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:28 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

take that haterz!

sunny successor, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

you are so fucking wrong.

chaki, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah christianity isn't crazy!! wanna come to church with me and chaki sometime, sunny?! we will show you! we're just normal folks

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

I bet a Christian could make a better peach cobbler than a Scientologist, but faith is faith, right?

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

MAYBE IM SAYING NEITHER CHRISTIANITY NOR SCIENTOLOFGY ARE CRAZY!

sunny successor, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

ASSUMERS

sunny successor, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh, well then you're way off

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Jesus, it was depressing when the fucking Joshua Tree did so well the first time it came out. If people who care about music enough to write about really think it was one of the most exciting reissues of 2007, I'm speechless.

-- xhuxk

omar little, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Greg said over on the livejournal thread that, especially early on, the Hannah Montana TV show got over on its writing more than its acting, except that Miley is catching up as an actress. I only saw one episode, and an old one at that, but I wasn't pulled away from the story by seeing any obvious incompetence. I thought they should have ratcheted up the embarrassment more, since the premise of the episode was that dad gives Miley clothes that embarrass her. I did think she had a certain rapport with the bloke who plays her father. But as I said over on lj, the most alive thing on the show was the ridiculous dance Miley and Oliver do under the final credits.

-- Frank Kogan

omar little, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 19:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

"I only saw one episode"

for research, amirite??

gershy, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 19:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

With the curtains pulled, presumably

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 23:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

that is not all, that was pulled

roxymuzak, Thursday, 17 January 2008 00:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

LOL SHE MEANS HIS PENIS

The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 17 January 2008 08:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Big leap there.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 17 January 2008 09:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

;);););)

roxymuzak, Friday, 18 January 2008 07:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

lock and destroy top three ile threads at the moment, pleeeease

-- dell, Friday, 18 January 2008 09:46 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

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it's not even an issue of self-righteous ethical whatever...it's just they're making me nauseous

-- dell, Friday, 18 January 2008 09:48 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Dom Passantino, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

BAN DELL thread, shall we toss a coin?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

should be "nauseated"

max, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

or really "feel nauseated"

max, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

grammar nerds make me feel like i'm gonna barf

gr8080, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

That's "I am going to barf".

Noodle Vague, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

should be "nauseated"

-- max, Friday, January 18, 2008 10:17 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

or really "feel nauseated"

-- max, Friday, January 18, 2008 10:17 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

coming from dell? no it should not.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

bobby fischer is a great man, 1000x jello biafra

-- Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:30 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

anyone who thinks he's an anti-semite should be shuffled into a gas chamber

-- Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:31 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 13:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

I am of the opinion that Adam Green gets better with each successive solo release, and that he was pretty good to begin with.

-- henry s, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:08 (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

art is bunkum. modern art is rubbish.

-- darraghmac, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 06:48 (19 minutes ago)

Embarchie, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

damn son i thought we was fam

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:11 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

minstrel

-- Arms, Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:12 AM

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

there's no reason for religion to exist anymore, we should agree to can it for civics instead.

-- darraghmac, Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:38 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

n/a, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

This really is the Rolling Darraghmac thread, huh?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

dell is pretty insane.

chaki, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 17:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

ban entire pakistan ip range

-- sanskrit, Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

gr8080, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 18:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

didnt that already happen

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 19:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Obama is pretty "clean," for a black! He's got my vote

-- Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 31 December 2007 21:27

Embarchie, Friday, 25 January 2008 10:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

'Hen fap' has never been funny.

-- Matt DC, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:40 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:42 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 16:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

...he getting ready for the race war in a shack in montana.

Yeah, but I love this look.

-- Laurel, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:37 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

chaki, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 17:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

'Hen fap' has never been funny.

-- Matt DC

It wasn't funny to start but when it started irritating people, it got rather amusing!

King Boy Pato, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 07:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

'Hen fap' has never been funny

unibrows have never been funny either

gershy, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 08:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

who is your faviourite western philosopher from this list?

Challenging opinions rally

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 08:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

When was the last time I said "mah niggah?"

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 7 February 2008 04:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

The only one i like all the way through is Goldfinger. Most of them are a bunch of action sequences without any effort put into connecting them.

-- abanana, Sunday, 10 February 2008 18:02 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 10 February 2008 18:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

But voters from the deep south who would be susceptible to the racial politics dog whistle abandoned the Democrats in 1980 or so. So no, I don't think racial bias contributed at all significantly to Hillary's win among whites in LA.

-- Dickerson Pike

gershy, Sunday, 10 February 2008 22:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

vince vaughn is better than dane cook

-- M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, February 11, 2008 12:45 PM

jergïns, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

ya think?

jergïns, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

# Whites a Minority? [Started by Bo Jackson Overdrive, last updated 2 hours ago] 33 new answers

oh for fucking fucks sake

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 05:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

What IS emo ? Are Sebadoh, Superchunk emo? If so, emo is a synonym for crap, isn't it?
-- Dr. C, Wednesday, 13 June 2001 00:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 11:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

"emo is a synonym for crap" isn't really a "challenging" opinion though, is it? Like, if you went on that assumption, would you be missing out on awesome music? I doubt it.

Someone should start a rolling "ILXors whom Dom has beef with/grudge against" thread for lulz.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hmmmm - I don't care about Dr. C calling emo crap but he's very very RONG with the implication that Sebadoh and Superchunk were either emo or crap.

ENBB, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 14:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

Agreed

sunny successor, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 14:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

i thought "challenging opinions" was not actually a place for challenging opinions to be listed, but a place for things to be listed that the poster themself falsely believes to be a challenging opinion

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 15:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

need more polls imo

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:53 (four years ago) Permalink

Challops won

Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:53 (four years ago) Permalink

idk seems like trenchant commentary thread split the vote here

also it'd be bad form to post challops from girls only thread

dn/ac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 08:32 (four years ago) Permalink

is ilx just a way to make fun of people now?

La Lechera, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:17 (four years ago) Permalink

I guess "trenchant social commentary," which is basically a subset of challenging opinions, does OK still.

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:31 (four years ago) Permalink

ilx seems like it's always been a way to make fun of people from what i know about it

famous instagram God (waterface), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:31 (four years ago) Permalink

well I dint wanna say

houllier than thou (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:37 (four years ago) Permalink

how do you like something on this board?

ledriver, Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:30 (four years ago) Permalink

with words

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:33 (four years ago) Permalink

you really don't want to get caught liking anything

doctrine the house (electricsound), Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:34 (four years ago) Permalink

it's ilxatown

mattresslessness, Thursday, 19 June 2014 05:24 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://gawker.com/tag/challops

just sayin, Monday, 28 July 2014 20:04 (four years ago) Permalink

somebody at gawker owes roxymuzak a bonus

Lewis - J'Agour (crüt), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:06 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

People will spend 8 hours a day posting to ILM and spend $50 on 'brunch' but will still gawk at buying a nice pair of headphones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

― 龜, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:55 AM (13 minutes ago)

╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Monday, 18 August 2014 17:09 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

tomscocca [1:13 PM] "Blue Velvet is terrible" is just a challop.

drew [1:13 PM] What is a challop

Samer [1:14 PM] drew: challenging opinion, i think

barry [1:14 PM] does a challop differ from a hot take?

Tommy Craggs [1:14 PM] "blue velvet" is a favorite of film-school types because it allows them to sneer at the rubes

tomscocca [1:14 PM] A hot take is a reaction to an event.

Tommy Craggs [1:14 PM] hence: "jeff koons: the movie"

marchman [1:14 PM] A challop is a challenging opinion that the person offering it doesn't actually believe, or expect anyone to believe he believes

tomscocca [1:14 PM] A challop is something that the person carries always around waiting to deploy.

Burneko [1:15 PM] blue velvet isn't even genuinely weird; it's superficially weird, and actually boring as hell

billy haisley [1:15 PM] blue velvet is way too straightforward to be a film-school type favorite

marchman [1:15 PM] "Blue Velvet is trash" is definitely a challop

marchman [1:15 PM] It's not weird at all, it's a very conventional movie

Tommy Craggs [1:15 PM] that's a challop

marchman [1:15 PM] It's just exceptionally well done

Tommy Craggs [1:15 PM] "blue velvet is not weird" is a challop

tomscocca [1:15 PM] Never imagined Deadspin would be so fired up for Columbus Day.

barry [1:16 PM] can't we start a "Deadspin olds" room and take this conversation there?

marchman [1:16 PM] How is it weird? It's bog standard suburban anomie

drew [1:16 PM] Stop saying challop. Now I want seafood

Burneko [1:16 PM] hahah

tomscocca [1:16 PM] "Anomie" Jesus Christ Marchman.

harvilla [1:16 PM] hot take: the word 'challop' sucks

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/does-david-lynch-suck-a-pointless-discussion-1643425148

jaymc, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 00:00 (four years ago) Permalink

blue velvet is terrible tho

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 00:02 (four years ago) Permalink

i think the first person to use the term "challops" was roxy iirc

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 00:04 (four years ago) Permalink

max introduced challop to gawker recently.... very few people are on board/use it correctly

snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 06:17 (four years ago) Permalink

I saw "challops" in a gawker comment yesterday. iirc, I spent a second or two trying to make sense of it in context.

how's life, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 09:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I disagree with harvilla on "challop"

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 11 October 2014 06:05 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

such a lively character (84 year-old Jodorowsky), his conviction (enthusiasm, bitterness etc.) is so apparent, it's really inspiring.

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:29 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Such a lively character" He is like a perfect composite of all the worst aspects of every pretentious bore you could meet in a lifetime and his movies are childish fucking idiotic garbage.

― xelab, Monday, 3 November 2014 00:17 (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 3 November 2014 12:22 (four years ago) Permalink

xelab ✓

Chetniks in Šumadija kill a Partisan through heart extraction.jpg (nakhchivan), Monday, 3 November 2014 16:33 (four years ago) Permalink

Eminem, unretired.

look what you did, you lil durk (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh pish posh. He exploited the potential of cinema much more than either Chaplin or Keaton (both of whom, yes, exploited it exceedingly well and have many masterpieces under their belts). Tati may have surpassed Lewis on that level but he lacks Lewis' grotesque personality which is essential to his life-affirming effect. I'm reminded of something Richard Barrios's disdain for Al Jolson (a key Lewis progenitor) in The Singing Fool: "Charisma, when applied this relentlessly, becomes oppressive." But yo, Richard, that's precisely why we go to the movies (or listen to, I don't know, Morrissey): to witness a gargantuan, out of control ego as a way to measure the contours of our own steady paths. If I wanted an even-keeled experience, I'd knock on my neighbor's door and ask to borrow some sugar.

P.S. Pizza is stupid and boring.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:32 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

slam dunk, Thursday, 20 November 2014 05:33 (four years ago) Permalink

lol, nice guy with crazy cinema knowledge but this place aint big enough etc

mattresslessness, Thursday, 20 November 2014 05:43 (four years ago) Permalink

meant to say i miss that guy, is all

mattresslessness, Friday, 21 November 2014 21:20 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Fincher a weird choice for "class of 1999" as he'd already made his best movie, The Game, two years earlier

man

wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, 9 January 2015 17:34 (three years ago) Permalink

oh god

local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 9 January 2015 18:00 (three years ago) Permalink

ppl who boost the game like its not a straight to video piece of hokum rmde

local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 9 January 2015 18:01 (three years ago) Permalink

An Apology For Shakespeare: Bold New Book Defends Poetry & Classic Literature, as Antidote to Culture of “Vanishing Ideals”

S.A. Joseph’s ‘An Apology for Shakespeare’ proves that the diminishing popularity of poetry, its themes and wider classic literature is a vital part of modern society’s rapid downfall. In a world where Satan’s influence runs high, the book and its explorations seek to reassert God’s influence. Joseph considers Shakespeare to be the great poet of all time and a “master of the arts”; someone whose words and concepts can still heal the world hundreds of years after they were created.

hot takes: audit in progress (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:49 (three years ago) Permalink

Wow the rare Type B Challops

The Reverend, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:25 (three years ago) Permalink

dont knock it there's a few of us might need a donor someday yet

local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:50 (three years ago) Permalink

Wow the rare Type B Challops

― The Reverend, Friday, January 16, 2015 3:25 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's like spotting a snow leopard in the wild

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:57 (three years ago) Permalink

Kinda feel like "conventional wisdom stated as if it was contrarianism" is the one true challops and simple contrarianism is just simple contrarianism.

The Reverend, Saturday, 17 January 2015 06:33 (three years ago) Permalink

In a world where Satan's influence runs high, maybe

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Saturday, 17 January 2015 07:19 (three years ago) Permalink

shd be read in the voice of the video trailer guy

Gombeen Dance Band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 January 2015 09:18 (three years ago) Permalink

"conventional wisdom stated as if it was contrarianism" is mostly lux aeterna nowadays imo

rae sredrum (imago), Saturday, 17 January 2015 11:32 (three years ago) Permalink

Nottingham Forest boss Stuart Pearce is "not a great coach, not a great tactician and not a great motivator", says former England defender Danny Mills.

challopian levels of stating the fucking obvious from Danny Mills

Gombeen Dance Band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 January 2015 12:11 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

why are you being so rockist about pop?

― the discussions, the slanging matches, the banter, the lot (imago), Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:05 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

example (crüt), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:18 (three years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

The best argument for Armisen not being a horrible person is his friendship with Carrie Brownstein, tbh. Hard to imagine her being best buds with the predator that Gawker article made him out to be.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, September 14, 2015 4:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 14:44 (three years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

at this point i think people voting leave just hate all migrants/anyone who looks like a migrant, and that everyone voting to remain, just dont want to be seen to be hating migrants/anyone looking like a migrant. the people spoiling their ballots or not voting are the only ones you can trust.

― StillAdvance, Thursday, 23 June 2016 11:32 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:23 (two years ago) Permalink

Look at that. Look at it good and hard. This is where we're at.

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:24 (two years ago) Permalink

Look at what they make you give

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:37 (two years ago) Permalink

#Brenter

am0n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:42 (two years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

grawlix (unperson) wrote this on thread Anniversary poll: How many good songs are there on Sgt. Pepper's? on board I Love Music on May 25, 2017

Fuck the Beatles. Zero.

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten) wrote this on thread Anniversary poll: How many good songs are there on Sgt. Pepper's? on board I Love Music on May 25, 2017

These are all great songs.

the baby grew up to be a secessful kid (unregistered), Friday, 26 May 2017 03:00 (one year ago) Permalink

C&P from blog view is always confusing to me at first

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 May 2017 11:44 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

MST3K isn't very funny

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 August 2017 00:32 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Has it been noted that ilx basically discovered hot takes before they were called hot takes?

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 15:20 (one year ago) Permalink


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