No, I don't think it is bad ... it's one of those things I'm ambivalent about, because on one hand you have the "infantilization" thing, but it has become so ingrained in culture, that there are other signifiers as well that cloak it.
croquet story is lol ... did he make a hole?
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)
okay - I've been thinking some more about what I find weird about the woman's deodorant fandom on facebook thing:
Historically, the objects of fandom were aspirational: sports teams/athletes; cultural works/artists, authors, musicians, actors; political parties/politicians; religious movements and figures. Other historically common objects were things that were associated with pleasure: food/alcohol, architecture, nature, sexual practices. With further advances in capitalism, people became fans of particular brands of goods - though these were generally associated with public display and/or leisure, fashion and cars, to name two obvious categories.
For something like a women's deodorant to command or demand fandom (which connotes a public display of appreciation/liking), is definitely a departure from these historical categories. Primarily, because it is what I would call a corrective product: something one would use to remove deficiencies in order to conform to societal norms. By expressing public appreciation for products like this is to the publicly admit that one has these deficiencies.
Granted, one of the trends of advertising is to more prominently and frankly discuss these deficiencies -- it wasn't until the 70s that feminine douches were advertised on American television, partly to make up for loss of revenue due to the ban of cigarette ads. However, these products tend to be things that people use and if they work, are grateful for, but aren't likely to publicly praise.
There are definitely products that are exceptions to this, though these tend to be things that are more uniquely liberating, in that the deficiencies they correct aren't universal. Contact lenses are a good example of this. I can understand someone being a fan of contact lenses, because they allow their users to appear like those fortunate to not require them. Deodorant, on the other hand, is not.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Saturday, 22 August 2009 21:28 (sixteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/lolatlife.jpg
^^^the incident covered upthread
― in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Sunday, 23 August 2009 04:33 (sixteen years ago)
well, right after it tbh
guess I shouldn't be too harsh on croquet, since I'm entertained by mini-golf ...I think my problem with my ex being a croquet aficionado was that it was just another signifier of a certain sensibility that came to seriously annoy me.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Sunday, 23 August 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)
the word "momma" in songs. do you like it?
― mookieproof, Sunday, 23 August 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oiLfTnrC40
posted this in that thread, partly for cute animals, partly because due to years of going to loud shows my hearing is kinda fucked and I honestly mishear lyrics a lot.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Sunday, 23 August 2009 20:29 (sixteen years ago)
[brand name women's deodorant] is making sure all your hugs are the freshest. Give your BFF a hug today. (And smell great doing it.)
now up to 259,000+ fans ...
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Friday, 28 August 2009 04:08 (sixteen years ago)
which is better:http://startupblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/dyson-vacuum.jpg
or
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IEIb52dl720/SekjpU5-H2I/AAAAAAAAAF4/dTwwK-bBzp8/s400/dyson-vacuum.jpg
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 09:05 (sixteen years ago)
i saw some marmosets the other day
― CharlieS, Friday, 25 September 2009 09:17 (sixteen years ago)
the yellow one with no personality.
― estela, Friday, 25 September 2009 09:28 (sixteen years ago)
i'm kinda leaning towards the pink one because it's more dynamic
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 09:29 (sixteen years ago)
on the other hand the straight verticality of the yellow one signifies a firm no-nonsense appliance.
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 09:40 (sixteen years ago)
it looks hapless on youtube, you can't blame it though.
― estela, Friday, 25 September 2009 09:50 (sixteen years ago)
i think i came across the relevant thread during an insomniac random thread click.
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 09:51 (sixteen years ago)
i know those well.
how many post have you made now? this is 5192 for me.
― estela, Friday, 25 September 2009 09:56 (sixteen years ago)
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― estela, Friday, 25 September 2009 09:57 (sixteen years ago)
uh oh 5202 for me
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 09:57 (sixteen years ago)
<3
― estela, Friday, 25 September 2009 09:59 (sixteen years ago)
thank you for indulging my vacuum cleaners
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 09:59 (sixteen years ago)
thank you for indulging my interest in your posting total.
― estela, Friday, 25 September 2009 10:21 (sixteen years ago)
Straight one is like a straight, "You suck."
Flying one is like someone in a sing-song voice, "You suuUUUuuuUuuck!"
― bamcquern, Friday, 25 September 2009 12:36 (sixteen years ago)
well, it has multiple connotations. It could be interpreted as "you suck," but as the vacuum cleaner is the thing doing the sucking, it could just as easily connote "i suck," or "this sucks"
― my other display name is a controversial mod edit (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)
pol·y·se·mous (pl-sms)adj.Having or characterized by many meanings:
― I ♠ my display name (sarahel), Friday, 25 September 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)
haha i love what bamcquern said
i saw that yellow dyson at the store this morning
― heave haw (roxymuzak), Friday, 25 September 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)
i love it too.
― estela, Friday, 25 September 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)
meanwhile - over a million facebook users have become fans of vitaminwater
― sarahel, Monday, 19 October 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)
damn them
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 October 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)
apparently vitamin water is successful enough that some other company has come out with vitamintea
― sarahel, Monday, 19 October 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)
sue them
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 October 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)
both products have the same sans-serif font product label thing going on. The vitamintea (one word) company is "Pureamerican" - which makes me wonder whether sans-serif fonts in food packaging and in supermarkets are supposed to connote organic-ness and purity or something.
― sarahel, Monday, 19 October 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)
sure!
― e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Thursday, 22 October 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)
did innocent smoothies invent that thing where every product label acts like ur pal. kept expecting the directions on the frozen pizza box 2 call me "bro," prolly serves me right for reading them tho
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:29 (sixteen years ago)
i dunno - Odwalla juice did this quite a while ago. That was the first time I noticed it. I read these things as well.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:35 (sixteen years ago)
btw happy birthday u r awesome!
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)
thanks!
This is from a bottle of "Honest Ade Superfruit Punch"
Not all superheroes are real (we're pretty sure Green Lantern doesn't exist), but our Superfruit Punch is nothing but real. The dynamic duo in this drink is blah blah blah ingredients blah blah nutritional benefits blah blah description of product made to sound enticing.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)
whoever invented this shit should be killed immediately
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)
tell me about innocent smoothies.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:45 (sixteen years ago)
they are cunty and expensive but irresistibly delicious
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago)
what does the packaging say though?
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago)
happy birthdayi also totally hate when ad copy pretends it cares about you
― harbl, Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago)
oh they have this thing where they go 28 grapes! 5 apples! 6 strawberries! and no bungalows! and ur meant to be like "oh shiz i didn't see that coming!"
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)
i hate products with annoying stupid names that it almost triggers a fit of self-loathing to even say to yourself, let alone out loud.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)
current ad copy placed on each label of Arrowhead:
THE ULTIMATE HYDRATORArrowhead brand mountain spring water has no calories, and we do not add anything: no sweeteners, no caffeine, no sodium - it's pure refreshment that quenches your thirst and replenishes your body. Be Healthy.
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 8 November 2009 03:20 (sixteen years ago)
This bag of Doritos has this inspirational story about a kid on the back, but I can't get past the bold type on bright yellow that says:
Buddy Booby'sBirthmark Read Along
― sarahel, Sunday, 8 November 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)
In the Mouth of Madness.
― pringles and loving it (latebloomer), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)
When it comes to juice we understand your need to get Naked.
― sarahel, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)
50cent owns vitamin water?
― plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 12 December 2009 23:53 (sixteen years ago)
do you not listen to rap music?
I took quarter water, sold it in bottles for two bucks/Coca-Cola came and bought it for billions, what the fuck?
― can you eat baconator? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 December 2009 23:55 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmuH0H7u6u8
― can you eat baconator? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 December 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)