Sarahel's Semiotics 4U

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MW, are you saying that in field sports, the goal is a passive aperture, which can be attained through physical calculation, whereas in chess, the goal is a mutable human agency whose intentions are hidden?

The plot thickens...

cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

There's a recent movie version of Chess the musical with Clarke Peters in it.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

'am i the cute one' is my favourite fwiw, although it is also the simplest and least poststructuralist

cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

Sarahel please tell us abt the semiotics of which theorists ppl use to illustrate the importance of their stuff.

― Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

foucault - sociology majors
derrida - lit majors
deleuze - art majors
heidegger - philosophy majors

max, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

donna haraway was popular with gender studies people at one point.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:57 (sixteen years ago)

cixous/foucault/butler - gender studies or womens studies or queer studies or whatever

max, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

I've been out of those academic circles for over a decade ... my grad program was pretty unaware of contemporary theory trends, considering ... it was definitely strange to me, going from a media studies department driven a lot more by critical theory/lit/art stuff to one that was more focused on journalism/social science.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

i told my momz that Deleuze and Guattari were pretty popular in lit circles these days and she was all "lol whut in the sixties we thought they were crazy people i thought it was only art d00ds who were taken in." Except in, like, super polite psychoanalyst language. (momz also thinks zizek is a charlatan why because she hates Lacan)

my brother is all about the heidegger, i actually find it pretty offensive tbh.

la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:22 (sixteen years ago)

heidegger is awesome on women's footware tho

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:23 (sixteen years ago)

i just like reading stuff i dunno what's cool in what circles these days

permanent response lopp (harbl), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:24 (sixteen years ago)

my only experience with zizek is from special features on the DVD for Children of Men ... I wasn't that enthralled, though he seems to be the new baudrillard, who I actually do like.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:24 (sixteen years ago)

harbl is massively otm although it pays to know thy enemy

cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:25 (sixteen years ago)

don't feel like paying for any Ann Coulter books, though.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

zizek is many shades of awesome imo

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

willing to give him a shot.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:32 (sixteen years ago)

i am fond of the zizz despite his habit of inventing antagonists who only about exist in the realms of plausibility (see: the leftist supporters of ahmadinejad in his recent lrb article (while his political writing is not his critical writing they share as it were tendencies)) but his books so far have been fairy gold for me-- they seem substantial while in front of your eyes but when you put them aside your brain is no fuller than when you started.

la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

personal fave is the puppet and the dwarf fyi, there's a lot of repetition between books tho

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

promising title.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

oh yeah all his books are the same. i like him iirc. his writing style can be really, really, really annoying though. "is this not the x of y?" over and over

permanent response lopp (harbl), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:44 (sixteen years ago)

I like Barthes and Eco's essays a lot. The more heavy theory stuff still gives me master's thesis flashbacks ... the instinct to look for succinct quotes, etc.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

i like barthes. mythologies is one of my favorite books ever, v fun read. i am trying to remember what zizek to read though, i think the first i read was welcome to the desert of the real, which is not very heavy.

permanent response lopp (harbl), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

last year i was reading "for they know not what they do," and i didn't finish bc long book is long

permanent response lopp (harbl), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

mythologies is great. Eco's Travels in Hyperreality is also awesome.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

zizek bugbear is making up his own meanings for words and juggling them back with established meanings without telling you cf jouissance

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)

those sexy europeans

cockles (country matters), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:44 (sixteen years ago)

what's his alterna-meaning?

cockles (country matters), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

that movie about him really made Ljubljana seem like a top holiday destination too

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:46 (sixteen years ago)

what's his alterna-meaning?

― cockles (country matters), Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:45 AM (26 seconds ago)

don't remember tbh

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:46 (sixteen years ago)

full disclosure, i've spent the last three days reading like fifteen pages of wittgenstein's the blue notebook, I figure my brain has turned to mush at this point

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:47 (sixteen years ago)

xp - this reminds me of a story: about a year ago, I was at a club show with a friend of mine who is half Slovenian. She was extremely drunk and was going on about how Slovenia has a negative birth rate and a very high suicide rate. We then started chatting with this younger guy we knew who was there -- quiet midwestern type -- and it turned out he was also part Slovenian. She then proceeded to tell him that it essential that he needed to find a woman to bear his Slovenian babies.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:50 (sixteen years ago)

hot come-on

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.filosofia.com.mx/images/uploads/jaquemate5peirce.jpg

how do yall feel about Peirce btw

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:52 (sixteen years ago)

kinda wish i lived in that male-grooming era

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:53 (sixteen years ago)

im a bad student because im basically swayed by whatever im reading at any given moment

max, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

or maybe that makes me a good student

max, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

she also kept going on about Wilford Brimley in connection with this

xp she was/is very much taken, and the younger guy is a big fan of her bf/now husband's old band. I don't think she was coming onto him, but maybe he said he was part Slovenian as a means of coming onto her ...

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

longtime readers of this board will know that the two loves of my undergraduate intellectual life are the very predictable white broctor of philosophy favorites nietzsche and derrida

max, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

this thread is making me feel v. retarded and under-educated with my painting degree

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

"do you have any Slovenian in you?"

"as a matter of fact I do"

"oh"

cockles (country matters), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

tbh not going to grad school was a great decision for the time being because instead of feeling retarded and undereducated around a lot of pomo asswipes i feel overeducated, or educated in the wrong way, around a lot of people who dont give a shit

max, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:58 (sixteen years ago)

xxxxxp i am like that too max. it's ok though. as long as you read lots of different things, that's what i tell myself

permanent response lopp (harbl), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:58 (sixteen years ago)

that's ok ... I feel v. retarded and under-educated in discussions of painting.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:59 (sixteen years ago)

thanks harbl

max, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:59 (sixteen years ago)

this thread is making me feel v. retarded and under-educated with my painting english lolterature degree

cockles (country matters), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:59 (sixteen years ago)

guys i have a math degree

permanent response lopp (harbl), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:00 (sixteen years ago)

my better half has a painting degree ... we were watching a crappy foreign horror movie last night with a scene in an art museum. I made some joke about pre-raphaelites, and he said, "Actually that would either be mannerism or early romanticism."

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:00 (sixteen years ago)

tbh i'm pretty delighted to be understanding and having opinions about things. Like I have no academic background to speak of, kinda thinking of doing a second degree since I'm debt free and its recession time.

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:00 (sixteen years ago)

I hear that ... for a while I was seriously consider Lol-law school.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:02 (sixteen years ago)

consider-ing ... I'm good at memorizing crap.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:02 (sixteen years ago)

other options are doing a post-grad diploma and then grad school

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:03 (sixteen years ago)


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