good lord, the cable news is SO WEIRD lately!! this is my news thread

the great american boner

does he refer to it as "a great american"

xpost ha

well i don't care about carrie prejean, but what do i know, i hate freedom, america, puppies, kittens, and apple pie

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/parade_8-7.jpg
stealing ur bandwidth, dan abrams

correlation =/ causation, but this is funny
What's Bad for the GOP Is Good for Fox News

ok, guess i was on the right track. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/06/AR2009080604105.html";>kurtz</a>:

(GE CEO) Immelt detailed his grievances. His elderly parents in Cincinnati, he said, watch O'Reilly every night. How did Ailes think his mother felt when O'Reilly put up Immelt's picture and blamed him for involvement in the killing of American soldiers in Iraq?

(GE had done business in Iran, a nation which U.S. officials said was arming Shiite militias in Iraq, but the corporation has since ended those contracts and now provides only health-care aid licensed by the federal government. "If my child were killed in Iraq, I would blame the likes of Jeffrey Immelt," O'Reilly once told viewers.)

Ailes countered by asking Immelt how O'Reilly's wife must feel when Olbermann made references to the Fox host's personal life and a long-settled sexual harassment suit. Olbermann once imagined the fate of "a poor kid" born to a transgendered man who became pregnant, adding: "Kind of like life at home for Bill's kids."

nice job going after the transgender person, progressive hero keith. anyway, after Olbermann calls out O'Reilly for the Tiller murder:

The next night, O'Reilly retaliated. He said MSNBC was spewing "hate," declaring: "Immelt is using his news operation to promote the Obama administration and liberal activities, while seeking billion-dollar government contracts from the president." O'Reilly said his program was looking into whether GE was doing "deadly business" with Iran. He gave out Immelt's e-mail address.

sorry
Out and a Bout- Olbermann, O'Reilly Are Still Fighting

http://i32.tinypic.com/ab441c.jpg

dude on far right (hah) -> roger ailes

this is like pro wrestling if pro wrestling were just a bunch of angry guys cutting promos all day long and nobody actually fought, they just cut more promos.

rachael maddow going all-in tonight on this subject of.. the implications of people like limbaugh comparing dems to nazis, beck's rhetoric, some of these astroturf groups.. if using language evoking nazism is a specific call to violence. guest on saying the coded language to the crazies is saying "go for broke."

her guest Frank Schaeffer brought up all the massive sale of guns/ammunition since the election and straight-up asked what beck and fox news would say when someone takes a shot at the POTUS or a congressman or senator.

Hosts Refire the Insult Machines

The executives had sought for years to tamp down the attacks by Mr. Olbermann and Mr. O’Reilly, to little success. Frustrated by the refusal by NBC’s chief executive, Jeffrey Zucker, to halt the attacks on Mr. O’Reilly, Roger Ailes, the chairman of Fox News, personally instructed Mr. O’Reilly’s program to aim at Mr. Immelt, people familiar with the situation said.

hahaha roger ailes doesn't play

keyboard cat = PATRIOT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpHsUIzk7HU

That clip makes Bill O'Reilly seem sort of . . . endearing and . . . good humored?

Oh god, RIP Fatso :(

bingo. more billo/shep. kind of friendly, though mostly not? this interview was suppposed to be about oreilly interview of hillary clinton but it turned into something else. i don't think oreilly enjoys answering questions & bringing up msnbc.. trouble!

07:25 starts the stuff about msnbc/nbc & by the end it's like woah, oreilly is PISSED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ2o_Ht1dE0

he's in this business to GET guys like jeffrey immelt, see.

what's also weird, from the NYT article

The deal extends beyond the prime-time hour that Mr. Olbermann and Mr. O’Reilly occupy. Employees of daytime programs on MSNBC were specifically told by executives not to mention Fox hosts in segments critical of conservative media figures, according to two staff members. The employees requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss internal matters.

In July, after Mr. Olbermann condemned Fox’s Glenn Beck for letting a guest assert that a terrorist attack in the United States might be a good thing, Mr. Beck booked a segment about G.E. and declared that a “merger between G.E. and the Obama administration” was “nearly complete.”

why does beck respond to olbermann by going after GE? did someone at fox (ailes?) give notice to everyone about targeting GE/NBC?

i mean i suppose oreilly's people could've suggested it. what really surprises me is all the msnbc dayside people being told not to mention fox hosts *even when criticizing conservative media*. and they did that? wtf?

sunday chat shows are all full of these clips of angry, angry, angry people shouting down their reps on health care.

on this earlier thread back in april, i speculated that ppl are crying about socialism and obama hasn't even DONE anything yet, what'll happen when he gets to health care? the answer is.. NAZIS!

gingrich trying his damndest to actually promote the idea that encouraging euthanasia is in this health care reform. and earlier he's calling others intellectually dishonest? this is insane.

stephanopoulos: "It's not in the bill!"

now peggy noonan is on, god help us all

cavuto! durka durka durka public option jihad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMu6wCqdeyQ

daria, how have you not sent your fist through your television screen by now?

i thought of doing that yesterday because i was house sitting & the giant tv wasn't tuning in anything (no cable) & i started to get kind of irritated, like.. F***ING THING SUCKS! DO IT LIVE!

there is no news on the news today. the shep picked a good day to take off. this greg jarrett filling in today is ok but zzzzzz. the cnn has this velshi dude going out to find how healthcare affects the real america. what, NOW they're trying to find out? what?!

i'm not sure why, with all the resources they have at the cnn, velshi is on bad quality digital video here, or whatever. i don't know anything technical, but it's choppy and terrible quality and has satellite delays constantly, and it's not like he's reporting from tora bora

rick sanchez is not that great of an interviewer. observation. he's got this guy on who was prescribed one painkiller for a dental procedure and ended up hooked on oxycontin. but somehow key pieces of the story (how precisely did he jump from one to the other? was he prescribed too much at once? did he keep going back and demanding new scrips? did he follow directions?) got left out, because IMHO sanchez decided what story he wanted to tell before conducting the interview & just skipped over information that the viewer might like to have.

ny mag:

Back in April, when the debate over torture was roaring, Jon Stewart invited Cliff May, a national-security hawk and former spokesman for the Republican Party, to come on The Daily Show and defend waterboarding. May was hesitant. He thought Stewart would paint him as a crazy extremist. The audience would jeer. It would be a disaster. "I was apprehensive about going on, even though I've been on TV for a dozen years," says May. "A lot of my friends told me: 'Don't do it. You're meat going into the sausage factory.'"

But May had a change of heart after soliciting advice from his friend Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard. "Kristol told me: 'You'll be pleasantly surprised. He doesn't take cheap shots. Jon is smart. You'll do just fine.'" Kristol proved to be right. Stewart's interview of May — a crackling, lengthy debate about where to draw the line between freedom and security — produced one of the most clarifying discussions about torture on television. "Literally, this is the best conversation I've had on this subject anywhere," May told Stewart.

Conservatives like Stewart because he's providing them a platform to reach an audience that usually tunes them out. And they often find that Stewart takes them more seriously than right-wing political hosts, who are often just using them to validate their broad positions, do. Stewart will poke fun, but he offers a good-faith debate on powder kegs — torture, abortion, nuclear weapons, health care — that explode on other networks. "Shepard Smith did the same discussion [on torture]," says May. "He kept yelling me at me: 'This is where I get off the bus! Not in my name!' He wasn't arguing with me. It was just assertions and anger. That's not what Jon deals in."

Daily Show: Cliff May is anti-torture, but outlines circumstances in which he believes it is justified.

i did wonder after he was on studio b the second time, if they booked him just so shep could yell at him again
but.. good lord, i just watched the daily show thing and it's infuriating - stewart lets him get away with saying these people are anti-torture & the memos are against it. lets the guy go on and on through his talking points. and eventually kind of starts yelling at him but it's the daily show so it's ironic. you might watch the whole interview & agree with everything jon stewart says and come away thinking we screwed up, but we understand why, and we won't do it again, and that's that. (and so why prosecute anyone, then?) and we know what stewart thinks & that he's a liberal so let's agree to disagree.

crazy the ny mag brought this up specifically because i really think cliff may is just cheney-level despicable what with representing an organization called 'defense of democracies' and advocating for bush admin policies that imho wreck the very foundations of it

o'reilly doing an opening segment about how fox news pwns everyone in the ratings, is the only network that's fair in their reporting, and is the most powerful voice in the news media

it is kind of funny how o'reilly takes it upon himself to speak for fox news & the quality of fox reporting & how awesome they are. maybe this contributes to many people believing there isn't any difference between the fox pundits and the journalists, ya think? but it's like.. cavuto is a journalist but hardly fair and balanced, and i don't know WTH is up with the fox nation which might just lead people to believe they're playing to & encouraging an audience that just looooooooves trashing democrats..

oh god, he's interviewing NANCY GRACE. i can't STAND her. though he's trying to figure out why the heck she did 206 shows on casey anthony & she seems kind of righteously pissed off, though doesn't she do nothing *but* get righteously pissed off?

ok next he's going to go after maddow & that guy for this (which was excellent imho):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E1SLJgATvM

btw i wonder if the $$$$$$$$ budgeted at fox for o'reilly's ridiculous salary came directly out of the $$$$$$$$ for his set design, because he has like one table, three chairs, and a couple of screens.

i guess it is pretty good value for the money if you can kick everyone's ass in the ratings for nearly a decade with one guy bloviating on a set that looks like it was in storage from one of those late 90's tabloid TV shows (of which i really, really wish there were an archive on google video or something, i'm very interested in them)

loooooooooool: o'reilly brings up palin's comment about 'death panels,' shows howard dean debunking it by saying euthanasia is not in the bill, and then attacks dean for making up the euthanasia issue to smear sarah palin. fair and balanced!

seriously love these shows. i don't sit around and watch this but i used to watch jerry springer. springer's great, everyone's in on the joke really.

1993.. HARD COPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktz3P5gv8iE

this could be on fox news today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_E1WrJKHrU

plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

didn't billo start off on hard copy?

that was where the "fuck it, do it live" thing happened, right?

checked.. billo was on 'inside edition.' & shep worked at 'a current affair' briefly. can totally see how fox news style picked up from these kinds of shows. which are the kinds of things you'd watch in the 80s/90s in the 'real america'/flyover country because it's pretty boring out there most days, right, so you might as well see what's weird on tv.

Matt Taibbi ever show up on cable news to explain how the Beloved Party is taking a dive on healthcare?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfKqAUzM-b8

i guess he was on that ed show which i never, ever, ever watch talking about goldman, i haven't seen him anywhere else. i don't think he's on tv too much

more from the wonderful, weird world of cable news

so this dylan ratigan guy, who i really like, has to promote his new show. the raison d'etre for this show is apparently holding an interesting 'conversation' every day, so every time he talks about the show he has to say 'conversation' over and over & always says on the air that he's bringing someone else into the conversation. the ironic part is that he talks over & cuts off his guests incessantly, every single day.

d-rat & eliot spitzer explain you the bank bailouts and the federal reserve, and they know what they're talking about. but this is cable news, so he pulls out a trash bag, a bunch of monopoly money, and funny hats, somebody scrambles to find b-roll to put on the massive screen behind them, and the camera is panning all over the room (and at about 5:10 i think a roach runs over it). and why does there turn out to be a cowboy boot in the trash bag? nobody can explain this.

the use of props gives me hope that glenn beck has contributed something positive to the national dialogue after all.

Federal Reserve is a Ponzi Scheme, an Inside Job

morbs, i have reached a morbs-like state of cynicism re: health care

daria are you too busy for this today?? my eyes are bleeding I'm so bored. Post some crazy for us!!!!

lol nancy grace, can't stand her

a vision of justice where bad things only happen to middle class white girls

i'm at a friend's place working on stuff, no cable! i will be home later. there was a CAR CHASE today and my understanding is, this happened in the early afternoon, but it did not stop the shep from replaying much of it on his show. because, CAR CHASE

trying and failing to find a list of exactly what the 13 points were in Nation of Ulysses 13-Point Program to Destroy America. that glenn beck only has 12 principles, so there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm96YypzyXI

dude did not get the memo about waiting until afternoon to pull something like this

nancy grace is truly the worst person on cable. worse than hannity, worse than greta, worse than tucker carlson, EVEN FUCKING WORSE THAN GERALDO. i mean, none of those people explicitly exploit dead children.

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well daria, you were bound to believe me AND your eyes!

that car chase was kind of a disappointment

some crazy 4 U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_031nd7uCk

notice the title of the video! "Hardball with Chris Matthews 8112009 - How to Make A CIA Puppet Posing as A News Anchor Look Stupid"

description from the youtubes: We need more people like William on these shows to stand up against these NWO talking heads so that the world can see how much of a PSYOP (Psychological Operation) game the Mainstream Media is playing on our minds! This is a total win for the freedom loving, constitutional supporting good guys!

around 2:30 matthews starts really getting on his shit "why'd you bring a goddamn GUN to a presidential event?!!"

protestor: "who'd be silly enough to carry an unloaded firearm?"

nancy grace is truly the worst person on cable. worse than hannity, worse than greta, worse than tucker carlson, EVEN FUCKING WORSE THAN GERALDO. i mean, none of those people explicitly exploit dead children.

― heave pho (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:55 PM (1 hour ago)
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just dead soldiers

progressive insurance, proctor & gamble, geico, sargento, couple other companies have pulled their ads from glenn beck thanks to this campaign. i don't personally know how ad buys work or if stuff just gets moved around. still.

http://www.colorofchange.org/beck/

found out via oh no they didn't - political which is really my #1 source for newz. also the commenters brought it today:

HOW DO YOU LIKE THE FREE MARKET NOW, BECK?
HE'LL GET NEW ADS WITH HIS BOOTSTRAPS

sargento

as president of this famous cheese company, i decided that i could no longer support glenn beck's cable news program

xpost stop me if i've said this before, but there are some women who just have this look, you know it when you see it, that makes me think they secretly hunt, kill and devour small animals with their bare hands when nobody is looking. rodents, mostly. nancy grace is one of those women. kimberly guilfoyle, i suspect her as well.

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