good lord, the cable news is SO WEIRD lately!! this is my news thread

wau MSNBC replaying a few minutes of that, holy shit orly taitz is straight out of a john waters movie!

def one of the wackiest interviews i've ever seen, and i watch a lot of cable news!

should be a youtube classic imo.

thing is, this birther thing IMHO isn't even news. it's crap. it doesn't need to be on the news. i'm concerned that liberals on the tv news being all too eager to talk about the crazies & paint the gop as crazy is.. giving this way more hype than it deserves because the more this stuff spreads, the further it takes the REAL crazies down a scary road.

beck starts out by mocking liberal bloggers again, what with fake typing and talking like the comic book guy.
^^^
this is in fact The One Thing i appreciate about glenn beck.

oh he thinks cash for clunkers is a government conspiracy to make your computer government property and monitor everything on it.

that would be dope - i want to communicate directly with barack obama

looooooool

ok someone on the tv box here needs to recognize that if your track record is 75% crazy speculation and conspiracy theories to 25% fair points based in facts and reality, your reputation for being able to make a fair point might suffer a bit.

the thing is, there has to be a real patch of common ground between judge napolitano and his freedom watch crew, and organizations like the aclu & frankly a lot of liberal bloggers re: policies of the bush administration, the patriot act, surveillance programs, etc.

woooooaaaahhh beck's new thing is a segment called "Use Your Head" and the opening animation has these dope Wax Trax! graphics

http://i25.tinypic.com/bwiyw.jpg

glenn beck, front 242, what's the difference? the government = TYRANNY >FOR< YOU

huh. beck very deliberately telling his audience that if anyone resorts to violence it will destroy the republic and ruin everything they're doing. "there is no excuse for violence."

then says if anyone talks about turning violent it is "your patriotic duty to stop them."

??? wonder if it has something to do with this particular beck fan..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YbBxYBvU_c

here's that orly taitz interview i mentioned a couple hours ago.

bill oreilly explaining that obama is using the birth certificate stuff as a way to smear the entire gop as crazy.
now, i wouldn't say obama is doing this personally but.. one could argue it is, indeed, something that democrats don't mind talking about when it makes republicans look *far* out there.

oreilly says the voters don't care about obama's records, they want health care fixed and the economy fixed. huh. you are entering the.. sanity zone? ~~CAUTION~~

and good lord. nobody far out on one side will ever successfully prove, or disprove, that the people far out on the other side are more crazy, or less crazy. if we could only stop trying to prove it for a minute.

orly taitz reminds me of the chicken lady from KITH

http://vogons.zetafleet.com/files/orly.jpg

lol

hahaha, the chicken lady.

watching this dylan ratigan again. he's obsessed with the "banksters" using wall street like a casino instead of creating anything of value & the fed not doing much of anything to regulate the financial system. now have on a guy from exile (the obnoxious moscow expat mag) who wrote a book about going postal. interesting stuff. plus i don't even know who coined the term "banksters" but i only see it on liberal leaning economic blogs, atrios, and corrente wire..

i sorta like dylan ratigan! i think he could clock himself down to one usage of "generational theft" per half hour tho

true that. he gets a bit repetitive with it! still, i don't know that i hear anyone else on the cable news talking about the bailouts that way. i mean he sounds like atrios. some good guests on there too, today he had moe tkacik (who i knew from jezebel, but i think she's primarily a business/finance writer)

the shep talked to john bolton about this north korea thing. but i guess other than worrying about the precedent it sets to have clinton go over there (which seems fair), bolton didn't say anything nutty.

d-rat today -> "America's wealth gap has reached banana republic levels."

taleb going off about bernanke, summers, geithner yesterday.

wait wtf are "banksters" please

i am imagining greying, portly dudes in wayfarers & bespoke cutoffs, riding golden fixies

afaik, it's a portmanteau of "bankers" and "gangsters" used to describe the heads of financial firms like Goldman, Lehman, Bear Stearns, etc. by those who want to imply that.. they're making off with shit tons of taxpayer money in a rigged system, basically.

don't know who coined the term but i know it from angry bloggers like this:

It's a merry go round called denial on a world class scale. The banksters are still drunk on money and power, and the Fed, the Treasury, and the finance wing of the FKDP are classic enablers. Instead of taking the bottle away, theyre trying to bond with the alcholic by becoming their source of supply!

it's pretty remarkable to hear a dude who built his career as a business journalist using this term all the time. d-rat might be kind of a dick irl but i don't really mind, it's like.. he runs a frat house except it's made up of ppl from all different backgrounds and you just have to roll with it. i missed what actually happened the other day when he and touré took a test on air to find out if either one of them was racist, but the teasers for it = lolz.

i am fascinated because i've worked with dudes like this at previous jobs & you'd think they'd be the #1 people on my shit list, but i don't really care & find them hilarious. wkiw.

in honor of obama's birthday, that glenn beck going over a brief history his life inc playing clips from his autobiographies out-of-context to imply that he was indoctrinated with marxism, socialism, and communism, plays clip of bill ayers, says he's great friends with a "terrorist sympathizer" (khalidi), now talking about rev wright and playing the "god damn america" clip. i mean this is the greatest hits version of every possible rightwing lowdown paranoid 'clearly you hate america' attack of the past three years. has a birthday cake with the chinese flag + candles on it.

now, i'm not saying it's inciting anything.. hey shep, i'm not saying fox's crazy emailers might be incited by this stuff, but i'm not saying they're not..

this whole show is about showing how every little thing ever done by obama and his administration is part of some big secret powerful long running conspiracy carried out via community organizing and ACORN to turn the country into.. something?

man since, when, the late 50s? early 60s? the stock in trade of the GOP was scaring everyone with COMMUNISM for any kind of modest ameliorative reform effort: medicare, civil rights, etc. ginning up voter anxiety to carry water for elite interests, garden variety conservative playbook stuff. but now it seems we have a whole generation that believes all that stuff wholly -- returning the top rate to pre-bush levels really is the same thing as liquidating the kulaks. they don't have to be scared with the "similarities," everything they can't stand is already completely synonymous

i have to read up on that.. ideas on where to start?

also. guys, you saw that one car chase (i think it was houston) where the dude ended up turning into a big parking garage & of course driving around in there, gets cornered by the cops.

didn't they try that in 'menace II society'??

(going through netflix recommendations and this is going to bother me now, if i don't know)

beeeeeeer summit with chief britishes correspondent jonathan hunt. because without him, this particular newscast would be hurting for lack of irony. the last min of this is hilarious. i <3 <3 <3 <3 guinness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59yT3Sx70oU

kelly's court is now in session!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt2a868Q7I4

in honor of obama's birthday, that glenn beck going over a brief history his life inc playing clips from his autobiographies out-of-context to imply that he was indoctrinated with marxism, socialism, and communism, plays clip of bill ayers, says he's great friends with a "terrorist sympathizer" (khalidi), now talking about rev wright and playing the "god damn america" clip. i mean this is the greatest hits version of every possible rightwing lowdown paranoid 'clearly you hate america' attack of the past three years. has a birthday cake with the chinese flag + candles on it.

this is amazing

i have a thing for megyn kelly tbh

hey daria you saw that olbermann has temp banned richard wolffe from his show? pretty good move imo, but he's pretty in tune w blogger happenings

this GE/msnbc/keith thing is super depressing to me

his special comment was fire tonite imo

http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/2008-10-05.gif

ok i am fucking dying at frame 7 al capone there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB3rMOgSzuk

at first i thought beck was just being really queeny at the start here, then realized he was riffing on marilyn monroe and couldn't stop from recoiling a few feet from the screen. ugh. i do that a lot when beck is on. as for the rest of it.. there must be a german word for someone who tries to be funny this way, but isn't funny?

megyn kelly is alright. and funny.

Glenn Beck, man of a thousand voices

i'm afraid

<3 kilmeade twitter. it's not even like he's texting this stuff, he's using the webbernets interface, but never proper English.

@KarmaLyn shes americas healer
21 minutes ago from web in reply to KarmaLyn

Paula should reconsider or risk going away like Star Jones, & Jackie Martling
21 minutes ago from web

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this fucking guy. i guess he played well in some professional sports event that i will never speak of again

i mean just look at the shit eating grin on his face. wait, maybe i should actually CREDIT dan the snyder with upping the prices in NFL, thus letting eli's agent demand that the football giants spend a huge chunk of $$$/cap space to keep him?

lou dobbs calls olbermann some stuff, says the real stories about KO's tenure at CNN are yet to come out, says he's on some mystery medications

this is all hilarious and great. one giant feedback loop of pointless blather and everyone gets paid! god bless america.

olbermann snapped back at dobbs tonight, said some shit about dobbs' wife that made me cringe a bit. get a room, fellas.

i can't stand keith olbermann. he went off yesterday about billo and fox news. o'reilly going off now about GE (owner of NBC now) for some fine they got & accusing them of corruption and promoting obama.

ok, so did rupert murdoch manage to completely punk GE/NBC/olbermann here? i mean, some "truce" is called june 1, olbermann goes along with it, truce gets leaked to the press, olbermann looks completely disingenuous & tries to cover his ass, so calls out o'reilly and murdoch again and the overexplains to the blogs, making the situation worse.

o'reilly goes right back to attacking GE/NBC for getting billions of taxpayer money & sucking up to obama.

sometimes i look at the new answers & realize why i hang out here and talk to myself

sotomayor confirmed. and after all those weeks of people freaking out over the 'wise Latina' comment, the shep is like, wasn't she just talking to an audience she was trying to inspire? you know when i go back to mississippi i talk to people about being from there & being successful and all. later on napolitano says, another liberal justice wrote an autobiography saying justices all bring themselves, eg who they are as a person, to the bench, that everyone has a point of view, and she was saying the same thing. talking about today as historic. <3

& shep flat out asked sen. martinez if he was pandering to hispanic constituents in florida by voting yes, since he's a conservative republican, then got him to say that he thought other republicans should've voted differently. these are totally fair questions, but he's been v tough on republicans & said something about lindsey graham's ability to smile while he's just tearing someone to shreds. asked judge bork if it wasn't the responsibility of the GOP to sufficiently ask questions to find out enough about the nominee's views.

this is really interesting to me because it seems the underlying point to all the sotomayor coverage on shep's shows - ok, i guess he just said so - is that we don't find out much of anything about the nominees in these hearings any more. and that even the dems/obama might end up being surprised by how she actually votes. which is so true, & frustrating watching nearly all the oxygen taken up by rightwingers (unjustly) calling her a racist, and the left saying ZOMG those racists called her a racist.

surprisingly, sanchez @ the cnn was on a completely different subject during and after the vote & didn't stick with this very long at all.

i flipped back to msnbc and shuster/hall were talking to some dem strategist about.. the gop portraying her as a racist.

and to be extra contrarian, i don't know how i feel about dems portraying all the town hall protesters as angry fringe types brought there by astroturfing pr/lobbying firms. it's true that some of the disruptive people were organized that way, and astroturfing is dishonest and corrupts the process, but on the other hand, there really *are* plenty of people who are uneasy about health care reform and other things the government is doing. it just looks like dismissing all dissenters out of hand, which IMHO is a bad strategy.

fareed zakaria asks hillary <3 <3 <3 about what john bolton said re: rewarding north korea. she just laughs.

cnn's 'first 200 days' special is tonight with another report card! not sure why they didn't go by jon stewart's assessment and kill it after the first time

bill o'reilly writes in parade magazine:
"What President Obama Can Teach America's Kids
"'Obama's "breathtaking achievement presents five important lessons for all children:' Forgiveness, Respect, Persistence, and the notion that in America anything is possible."

saved for later!