What are people's thoughts on concrete poetry? I ask because I used to read a lot of that kind of stuff, and I'm now reading Perloff's 'unoriginal genius' and I noticed she views it differently from me. She sees I as a somewhat conservative trend which equates the signified and the sign. I always felt that it was contrasting the signal and the sign, exposing contradictions and opening up new ways to experience characters and text separated from their normal usage.
I know, of course, that concrete poetry isn't enormously popular, I just figured that the typographical possibilities of the internet would bear it's legacy somewhat. Does anyone have any thought, knowledge etc to bear?
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link
I always felt that gomringer's silencio https://i2.wp.com/media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lat7dvHeL31qzkabq.gif is contrasting the for of the word 'silence' with what it signifies, for example
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 11:52 (seven years ago) link
linked to by a friend on fb:http://www.racked.com/2016/9/19/12865560/politics-of-pockets-suffragettes-women
― sarahell, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
special request 4 semiotic breakdown of veronica, betty and cheryl blossom particularly vis-a-vis cheryl blossom's interruption/addition to riverdale continuity
― Mordy, Thursday, 15 December 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link
When I think about people “doing semiotics at Brown” I still get a tingle down my spine— Naomi Fry (@frynaomifry) June 22, 2018
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 June 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link
What does a Sarahel think of ‘The Uprising’ by Berardi? Reading it in the pub atm.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link
haven't read it. but I do recommend David Graeber's The Utopia of Rules
― sarahell, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
I’ll check it out! I’ve read Debt and Direct Action - I think I tended to enjoy the anecdotes and ephemera within them more than the overall project, but I did enjoy them.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 30 November 2018 11:31 (five years ago) link
the anecdotes are good -- I feel like that's where he excels as a writer in this vein
― sarahell, Friday, 30 November 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
22nd Street tiger painting is gone
that's it, Mission is over
― Milton Parker, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link
HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!!!!!
― sarahell, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
Also this is the perfect thread for that info.
― sarahell, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link
― Mordy, Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:44 PM (one year ago
In the TV show? I watched it only a few months ago! Riverdale and Gotham are kinda my inexplicable faves rn
― sarahell, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link
i really meant in the comix - cheryl blossom was foregrounded in the world of the show but in the comix iirc she was always an interpolation. "now introducing cheryl!" or like an image of cheryl driving into town in a corvette and veronica and betty put out by archie crushing on her. narratively i think this is obv an opportunity to unite veronica + betty against an outside force but these figures do seem archetypical to me like it's not a coincidence that the brunette + blonde's quest for the all american boy is hijacked by a red head but i'm not 100% sure why i know it's contained within the semiotics of hair color, gender norms + american small town mythos among other things but i can't extract it.
― Mordy, Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link
I never read the comix ... so all I have to go on is the tv show. Having her be revealed as queer was a shift, and kinda felt like a tension release in a way? I kinda don't know how I feel about it. I guess one thing that connects Riverdale & Gotham (outside of being based on comics) tv shows, is the way that they incorporate the retro and the contemporary. Like, these shows are "period" and also not, but they try to make it appear cohesive ... idk.
― sarahell, Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link
Gotham's even "weirder" in that it incorporates (or tries to) elements from multiple time periods, as opposed to Riverdale which is just 50s + contemporary
― sarahell, Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:07 (five years ago) link
riverdale feels like a subversion of the comix - like a lynchian undressing of idyllic small town american high school life. by contrast sabrina despite being also a much more mature + at times disturbing version of its source material feels like it preserves the essential conflicts of the original work. it's just like a much darker take on the torn between two worlds narrative and wanting to be a normal teenager etc. on the show do betty + veronica ever fight over archie? i only watched the first few episodes and the show seemed to be studiously avoiding putting them in competition over his affection.
― Mordy, Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:13 (five years ago) link
they don't really fight over archie. show begins with betty having a thing for archie, but she later gets over it and dates jughead. betty and jughead, and veronica and archie who are also a couple, break up for a short time, and archie and betty kiss during this time. but theres not really any "fighting" and both respective couples get back together
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:19 (five years ago) link
it definitely does the Lynch thing, sometimes so much so that I'm rolling my eyes. It's fun tho. I like Gotham better. It actually is interesting in terms of commentary on mental health issues
― sarahell, Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:20 (five years ago) link
also re Riverdale, there's the extra-textual thing of Archie's parents being played by Molly Ringwald and Dylan from 90210
― sarahell, Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:21 (five years ago) link
i keep getting ads for this company. this is one of the ads -- from a Marx-informed perspective -- this whole ad campaign is ... damn ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho4LUg9avZA
― sarahell, Sunday, 10 April 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link