Whatup in grilz thread news for me: My therapist was like 'lol are you serious' when I told her nothing gets my goat more than when my boyfriend says during an argument that I am 'being irrational,' because it's not only untrue but also sexist. I was like 'don't you know the history behind men being rational and women being emotional and blah blah blah' and she was like, 'ok...everyone has their thing.'
I had kind of a stress mental breakdown a few months ago and he sometimes calls it 'the period of time where you were really irrational' and I ask him not to say that.
feelings!!!
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:03 (twelve years ago)
Trying to figure out if I even like this therapist, if she's even helpful, or if she's just a person I can feel guiltless complaining to about work and my failed marriage of quite a while ago
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:06 (twelve years ago)
that said it was like a funny moment between us, or maybe a real moment, because it was the first time anything I said provoked a reaction other than pity-empathy
I would not continue to see that therapist but ~ 60% of my issues stem from shit like men calling me irrational for having feelings they find disagreeable or inconvenient so ymmv.
― carl agatha, Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:18 (twelve years ago)
I think those real-person moments that the human being pops out from behind the therapist empathy mask are actually the ones that I end up basing my "is this therapist gonna work?" feeling on.
That said, it would irritate the shit out of me if I'd specifically asked my partner not to use a word/trope that bothered me, and they carried on using it, regardless of what the word was, but moreso if it was that one.
― I'd rather be the swallow than a dick (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:18 (twelve years ago)
personally i'm not paying a therapist to judge what pisses me off, that would make me even more irate, quite rationally so
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:26 (twelve years ago)
i feel like carl does, that i would not want to see that therapist anymore. it's possible i value ideological commitments too highly in a therapist, but i am honestly a little confused by a woman who does not understand irritation at being called irrational by men. does she hail from some other, better planet? what happened?
― horseshoe, Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:30 (twelve years ago)
ok, it was starting to make me feel...."irrational"! I think I am going to ask around for different names of therapist.
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:31 (twelve years ago)
What is even a good way to do that other than luck of the draw??Open up a phone call with 'do you think it is sexist to call women 'hysterical'? well, what about 'irrational'?'
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:33 (twelve years ago)
haha we should draft an "are you feminist enough" therapist questionnaire
― horseshoe, Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:35 (twelve years ago)
i think both of those are good ideas!
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:37 (twelve years ago)
when i lived in Buffalo i started therapy and just happened to start seeing a therapist who specialized in treating young women who were rape and incest survivors. that wasn't the reason for my therapy, and i think i was older than the majority of her clients, but she was the best. i don't know that the word "feminist" was ever uttered in any of our sessions, but she tended to approach the world in a way i recognized/vibed to.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:42 (twelve years ago)
I literally googled "feminist" and "therapist" and "London" and came up aces.
― I'd rather be the swallow than a dick (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:51 (twelve years ago)
I am having a really hard time finding a new therapist and it sucks.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Sunday, 26 January 2014 23:31 (twelve years ago)
― horseshoe, Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:35 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not even kidding, that would be a really worthwhile project and a great resource.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Sunday, 26 January 2014 23:44 (twelve years ago)
Did that in Chicago, too!
― carl agatha, Monday, 27 January 2014 01:58 (twelve years ago)
just posting real quick to say all the women of ilx are megababes. that's all. mwah.
― homosexual II, Thursday, 30 January 2014 17:05 (twelve years ago)
<3<3<3
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 31 January 2014 00:14 (twelve years ago)
Inspired by roxys latest FB pic!
― homosexual II, Friday, 31 January 2014 01:40 (twelve years ago)
It's so fierce and good.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Friday, 31 January 2014 01:48 (twelve years ago)
ya that photo is everything
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 January 2014 03:11 (twelve years ago)
omg hahaha WHAT? best surprise when opening this thread, ty yall
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 31 January 2014 04:31 (twelve years ago)
the one with the guinea pigs?
― ^ enlightening post (sarahell), Friday, 31 January 2014 04:52 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N48CeTOJlFo&feature=youtu.be
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 02:10 (twelve years ago)
I think she's my faves new youtubes person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lET-WXTsSwc
― even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 02:12 (twelve years ago)
x-post - awesome
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 02:16 (twelve years ago)
that beauty trends one made me lol.
if you must continue to wear makeup, remember to wear a blanket over your head. that way you can avoid seeing any men.
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 04:27 (twelve years ago)
bryce, if you are still reading this thread, you would like that video.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 04:28 (twelve years ago)
happy International Women's Day
― lord of the files (Crabbits), Saturday, 8 March 2014 17:24 (twelve years ago)
<3
― claim you hate me; read my twitter account ~religiously~ (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 8 March 2014 17:26 (twelve years ago)
happy women's day! all my international coworkers wished me a happy women's day before we left yesterday.
also i meant to tell this thread that yesterday my doc told me i am experiencing ~mittelschmerz~ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelschmerz)
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 8 March 2014 17:39 (twelve years ago)
Shitty! But at least it has a terrific name?
― lord of the files (Crabbits), Saturday, 8 March 2014 17:41 (twelve years ago)
that was my reaction! i texted my mom because i always used to complain about weltschmerz when i was a complainy teen (after i learned what it meant) also i thought i had a cyst or appendicitis or something but it turns out i just have very sensitive ovaries. lol?!
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 8 March 2014 17:43 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, I'm sorry, that sounds really shitty and painful, but on the other hand, what a great name!
― claim you hate me; read my twitter account ~religiously~ (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 8 March 2014 17:44 (twelve years ago)
it's not that shitty or really that painful! i'm just glad it wasn't anything major. it made me feel like i'm just overly aware of what's going on, and it's just like yoni power hour, comparatively speaking.
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 8 March 2014 17:48 (twelve years ago)
"yoni power hour" is a choice phrasemittelschmerz makes your ovaries sound so existential
― lord of the files (Crabbits), Saturday, 8 March 2014 20:42 (twelve years ago)
mitteleuropa
― sent from my butt (harbl), Saturday, 8 March 2014 22:48 (twelve years ago)
tobi vail interviews meredith graves, good interview! liked this q/a in particular
It’s always weird. It’s not something I ever really get used to, sort of putting yourself out there [as a feminist], and then watching it get filtered through the [male-dominated] media. It’s completely bizarre. And I think you’re right — it does have to do with society’s ideas about women’s roles — how you are reflected can become very mutated according to sexist bias [in the media].It’s true, and I would like to think I can just go off and swear and curse misogyny and do all the things I want to do, but I’d also like to be a little better spoken. If you get a microphone for five minutes of your entire life, you should do something productive with it, and me sitting there going, “fuck all men, fuck this, fuck that, misandry tra-la-la,” because I get riled up when I get asked leading questions… I feel like I just need to be in a little better control of myself.
It’s true, and I would like to think I can just go off and swear and curse misogyny and do all the things I want to do, but I’d also like to be a little better spoken. If you get a microphone for five minutes of your entire life, you should do something productive with it, and me sitting there going, “fuck all men, fuck this, fuck that, misandry tra-la-la,” because I get riled up when I get asked leading questions… I feel like I just need to be in a little better control of myself.
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:24 (twelve years ago)
http://wonderingsound.com/feature/tobi-vail-interviews-perfect-pussys-meredith-graves/
I don't know who either person is but great interview!
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:56 (twelve years ago)
Dear Meredith, please come post on my image bands thread:
I was re-reading Roland Barthes yesterday, who is one of my favorite authors. I was revisiting his theories on dress. I’ve been lambasted recently because I wrote a piece for ELLE magazine. I did it because I thought it sounded fun. Apparently, that’s not very punk. To which I say, “Fuck it, Roland Barthes wrote for ELLE magazine.” He wrote an early semiotics study differentiating between langue and parole — which is the difference between language as an entity, or that exists independently of people, or “langue,” and “parole,” which is the way in which it is executed by the individual. The way Barthes applies this to fashion is that there is dress — which is all the clothes in the world and everything we can do with them — and dressing, which is for the individual. To me, fashion and style can be separated in the same way. Fashion is dress and style is dressing. There’s sort of a lexicographical difference there. According to Barthes, dress is what needs to be studied, and dressing is less important, because that comes down to the individual and it can’t really be studied unless it’s done on a case-by-case basis.
― Fingerbang! goes another year, in and out of one ear (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:59 (twelve years ago)
(I have a feeling I would absolutely haaaaaate Perfect Pussy's music because, y'know, fuck hardcore punk, fuck Upstate NY, fuck the load of it, but she does seem to give good interview at the moment.)
― Fingerbang! goes another year, in and out of one ear (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 23 March 2014 17:00 (twelve years ago)
okay i have a serious question:
i'm a member of a co-op that runs a noise clubhouse that does shows, and one of the members just booked a show where one of the musicians is a dude that a friend of mine had said date raped her (this was in the past year). And it feels icky. For all my years of booking and putting on shows, I haven't been in this situation before. I've booked dudes that were run-of-the-mill creepy or sexually aggressive when drunk, but nothing as serious as this.
what the fuck should I do? (if anything)
― sarahell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:27 (twelve years ago)
Are you likely to get any support from the other members of the co-op if you bring up that this guy is an un-safe person to have around? Not that that should stop you bringing it up, but it's good to know in advance if you can expect any backup. If you know there are people who would give you backup, raise it with them first, and then bring your concerns together to the whole group. (Rapists are not safe people to have in any space that includes women. I do not think it's undue or unfair to raise this issue.)
― Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:35 (twelve years ago)
the co-op is 3 women and 5 men
― sarahell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:36 (twelve years ago)
Raise it with the other women, and discuss, and bring your perfectly legitimate concerns to the group together. Strength in numbers and a united front.
― Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:37 (twelve years ago)
I also feel like I should talk to my friend about it first. But I feel weird contacting her and saying, "hey, how's it going? guess what? that dude who raped you is booked on a show at (name of space i run)."
― sarahell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:39 (twelve years ago)
I don't think you need to name the person, when you are saying "Person raped someone I know" - at least, that's not how it works in a court of law. But I can understand why you'd want to ask, first, does she feel comfortable being involved with this. But I would not have this guy play at your space.
― Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:42 (twelve years ago)
I think you know what you need to do. Do you expect strong resistance to naming this issue and discussing a response from your co-op?
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:44 (twelve years ago)
For me, the most compelling framing is a "health of the community" issue. (Well actually the most compelling framing is a 'THIS PERSON SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WATCH US APPLAUD HER RAPIST' one but I recognize that it opens both parties up to personal judgments.) But when someone has a serious allegation made against them and is still accepted by a community without an analysis of that, it starts to become definitional to that community that they didn't find it important enough to investigate or analyze.
Pretending that "oh we're not political" or w/e is a lie--that pretense itself is political. Taking no action is a vote for the status quo, ie patriarchy. Blah blah obviously.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:50 (twelve years ago)