isn't that lj's fave team?
― sarahell, Monday, 4 November 2013 02:04 (twelve years ago)
yeah
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)
do you think you could tell they were british from their demeanour and physiognomy
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:43 (twelve years ago)
they do look like cops who have one line or inefficient henchmen from British crime shows
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:45 (twelve years ago)
there is something very real about them
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)
they probably had no idea that they were committing an indictable offence
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)
a couple of them have physical traits that resemble the criminals Foucault talks about in that section in Discipline and Punish
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
discipline is a surname found in the same estuarial satellite towns those m8s come from
abysmal real names
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:57 (twelve years ago)
he did write about physiognomy of criminality -- didn't he? Or am I thinking of a different book by someone else?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
Discipline vs. the racist tattooed NFL bro, Incognito?
idk i haven't read all of that, and not for some time
there is a lot about the physiognomic determination of moosbrugger's criminality in the man without qualities
it seems a bit victorian for foucault? unless he was criticizing all of those victorian phrenologists
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)
he was talking about the history of criminality iirc
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)
attributing englishness or real englishness to physiognomy probably less anachronistic than attributing criminality
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)
i mean, some of those dudes look kinda like yankeeland bros
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:02 (twelve years ago)
Re: Rams take Richie Incognito (C, Nebraska) in the Third Round
I liked how the name Incognito came about. His grandpa came from Italy, was at Ellis Island and no one could understand him so the clerk wrote down Incognito and it stuck.
Maybe that's what's wrong with Richie. Just misunderstood.
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:03 (twelve years ago)
why are you so interested in the physiognomy of ethnicity/nationality?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:05 (twelve years ago)
subsidiary to the german american thing, narcissism of small differences among white northern european people, shadow archetypes, do english people exist etc
not a general interest
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:08 (twelve years ago)
that's just an interesting way of expressing that interest, to me.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:10 (twelve years ago)
maybe the eventual end of white rule in america will lead to european americans trying to radically reaffirm themselves by undoing the metissage inherent in their construction
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)
m8s and m8dchens
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:17 (twelve years ago)
narcissism of small differences among white northern european people
Very similar to football tribalism imho
― The normative power of the factual (Michael White), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:17 (twelve years ago)
yeah, i think it's already been established that i am not a "what you call football" person, though i grew up watching NFL games on tv with my dad, and there weren't really any regional physiognomical differences between the teams.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:19 (twelve years ago)
Britishes, what's the legal logic behind these criminal statutes? It's not that they're prevented from being racist or saying racist things, it's that they're essentially yelling "fire" in a crowded theater?
― The normative power of the factual (Michael White), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:22 (twelve years ago)
just a public order offence of threatening violence, with racial aggravation? idk public order offences seem very british in character
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:23 (twelve years ago)
sports tribalism doesn't seem interesting at all, just narcissism of arbitrary differences
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:27 (twelve years ago)
i hadn't read the article until now -- how are they banned from football? Like, I had thought they were players based on that language.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:27 (twelve years ago)
Football attendance his highly policed in Britain after several highly visible disasters in the 80's. It's like having your name on a TSA no-fly list, sarahell
― The normative power of the factual (Michael White), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)
just narcissism of arbitrary differences
Like narcissism of small differences among white northern european people is all I'm saying, unless you chose the country of your identity and adherence.
― The normative power of the factual (Michael White), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)
a friend of mine who worked in social services in liverpool noted how the local scally kids from the deprived estates that the thatcher govt wrote off also have a kind of 'look' about them which is quite distinctive and goes beyond the regulation sportswear, the sort of hunched posture, preternaturally lined forehead from staring down while looking upwards, sullen and ghostly pale
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:42 (twelve years ago)
it is relatively common among white ppl in America to discuss their ethnicity and have certain beliefs about how it determines their behavior and appearance, which is strange to me, because there has been so much mixing here. Like, these aren't 1st or 2nd generation people.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:45 (twelve years ago)
yeah the narc of sd aspect becomes more interesting once it gets to the level of mythos
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:46 (twelve years ago)
i have a dear friend that will comment on things I do or how I look with "being Irish" as an explanation.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:49 (twelve years ago)
I have another dear friend that will make similar comments with my astrological sign as an explanation.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)
have you ever had any degree of belief in horoscopes?
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:54 (twelve years ago)
astrology is one of those things i am really ambivalent about that i think is really interesting! I don't really believe in daily or weekly horoscopes, but the descriptions and characteristics of astrological birth signs I don't completely disbelieve, which is pretty logically inconsistent.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:57 (twelve years ago)
some more real english fizziognomies
http://distilleryimage6.s3.amazonaws.com/974348003e2311e3988a22000a1fbac2_8.jpghttp://images.gamme.com.tw/news/2013/09/4/rJiaoZ_YkaeVqKo.jpg
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:11 (twelve years ago)
one of those is "403" and the other is the swallow tattoo m8 I thought was attractive
― sarahell, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:30 (twelve years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/g1dbKrs.jpg
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:36 (twelve years ago)
my family's home had carpet in those colors when i was growing up!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:41 (twelve years ago)
http://artreview.com/home/news_10_feb_14_stuart_hall/
RIP - Resistance through Ritual was a real summer jam!
― sarahell, Monday, 10 February 2014 12:52 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYhL9jvXgu4
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Thursday, 9 October 2014 22:02 (eleven years ago)
http://www.csklegal.com/wp-content/uploads/in-memory_bob.jpg
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Saturday, 11 October 2014 02:09 (eleven years ago)
today i saw a large, beautiful german shepherd running very fast and elegantly through the streets in north philadelphia. i was going to stop my car and try to help it so it didn't get hit, but i had two other people in the car and they didn't want to do this and now i feel sick. i think it was some kind of omen, maybe… my mom had a german shepherd growing up that looked like this one and she describes it as this legendary figure, almost, who would follow very specific commands (go in the other room and lay down. go wake up _____. etc.) my name is very similar to this dog's name, and i've always suspected that my mom named me after this dog (which would be, idk, weird) but she denies it.
anyway, what's the deal? does this mean i am going to die? ?
(semiotics is a kind of fortune telling right?)
― Treeship, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:10 (eleven years ago)
your mom had a dog called Treship?
― Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 November 2014 23:28 (eleven years ago)
semiotics isn't fortune telling, but it could address the fact your mom named you after a dog. Does she treat you a like pet? Does she give you treats in order to gain your love? Does/did she have trouble "letting go" when you became an adult?
― sarahell, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:33 (eleven years ago)
did she have you fixed?
― Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 November 2014 23:38 (eleven years ago)
http://www.neuticles.com/images/ballcap.jpg
???
― sarahell, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:43 (eleven years ago)
this is too personal. i am going to consult a woman with a tarot card tattoo i see sitting on the other side of the reading room. thank you for your time.
― Treeship, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:54 (eleven years ago)
trís it seems like you need a psychoanalyst, perhaps a lacanian one
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Friday, 7 November 2014 23:58 (eleven years ago)
i have a fb friend who is a lacanian psychoanalyst!
― sarahell, Saturday, 8 November 2014 00:03 (eleven years ago)