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and i tried to take a picture of my resting face, to see what it looked like. and it looked sad!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link

I worry that my resting face looks slack and vacant. Like I will be working away and realize I'm sitting at my desk with my mouth slightly open. I guess that's better than my other bad habit which is to sit with my jaw clenched so tightly that I get terrible headaches.

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

Anyway, resting bitchface is a dumb concept that has its roots in the fucked up idea that women should always look pleasing and accommodating, IMO.

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link

it fucked with his head so much she ended up taking a shower to get the perfume off.
oh man, i don't doubt it for a second. yikes!

agree with u carl
just one MORE thing for us to feel like we have to "work on" -- your face is sitting wrong

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3v98CPXNiSk

kate78, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

lol at the blonde girl who points at her bitchy resting face

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

resting asshole face

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

I look permanently pissed off, even on the rare occasions that i'm not!

kinder, Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

o yeah ppl alwayyyys think im mad and im almost never mad

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Saturday, 29 June 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

How greasy is it acceptable for hair to be when going to the hairdresser for a wash+trim? Do I have to wash my hair just to make it clean enough for someone else to wash it? And then wash it again to get the tiny hairs out and make the new cut look good? Gah.

I normally get a dry trim so I don't have to think about these things (also because the heavy-duty shampoos/conditioners salons use often makes my scalp itch) but last time I booked the receptionist told me they never did dry cuts even though I'd previously had several at this salon, so I'm trying to do things the approved way this time.

slippery kelp on the tide (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link

I am usually pretty greasy when I go to the salon. I generally tend to wash my hair on Sunday or Monday and then again sometime towards the end of the week. If my hair cut is on Monday, though, I'll be like fuck it, why wash my hair Sunday if I'm just going to have it washed on Monday? So I'm usually on four day hair when I go in, which is really beyond the limits of acceptability for going out in public.

My stylist has been cutting my hair for like eight years, though, so she knows I'm gross.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

Ha last time I got my hair cut I hadn't washed it in a week. Ytth always tells me how good my hair smells when its unwashed so I didn't really think about it. So anyway I apologized in advance to the stylist for it bring kinda greasy and she mentioned that it smelled strongly of argan oil (which I wasnt using at the time) but it wasnt unpleasant.

Cut to: some weeks later, I've purchased argan oil for the first tome and omg it smells kinda gross. So now I feel a little embarrassed bc I wonder if she was too nice to say that it was gross. Ytth is no help bc he thinks it smells good even after a week.

I wish I could smell my own hair :/

just1n3, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link

I've been known to powder my hair to make it presentable for the last half-day before a wash and cut, but I do feel slightly sheepish telling the stylist, by the way, my hair is full of corn starch. Lucky she's cool and doesn't care (and has probably seen a lot worse).

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:15 (ten years ago) link

Man I wish i could get away with not washing my hair every day :(

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Thursday, 4 July 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link

the problem is that once you start not-washing every day, you NEVER want to wash it.

just1n3, Thursday, 4 July 2013 05:10 (ten years ago) link

OTM

carl agatha, Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link

Since it grew longer, I've settled into a routine of washing and conditioning every third day. The first day's a wash/condition; the second day's just a rinse in hot water to remove 'product' and maybe a little light styling conditioner when damp; the third is another rinse in hot water - and that night, I rub/comb olive oil or argan oil in my hair and leave it in overnight to be washed out in the morning. I tend to do all my hair dyeing on this last day in the cycle.

A good friend of mine is a hairdresser and she says that compared to some of the things she's seen on scalps, the average customer's greasy hair is NBD. You can't control that as much as not turning up with smoky, smelly hair coated in yesterday's hairspray.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link

I don't get my hair wet at all in between washes, and in winter when I can wear a hat to work I've been known to go over a week without washing.

My problem is I get a crazy flaky + itchy scalp by day 3, only relieved by washing.

just1n3, Thursday, 4 July 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

Try massaging almond oil into your scalp from time to time, may quieten down the flakes and itchies.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, interested to try the hot water but no product thing. I try not to wash every day because it gets frizzy/flyaway and starts to look greasy quite quickly if I wash too often, so I'm curious whether being rinsed without shampoo has the same effect or not.

I never quite mastered the powder-on-hair trick, either using talc/baby powder or using some ancient bottle of "dry shampoo" my mother had. Could never get it to comb out and would always end up having to wash it out instead, defeating the point...

slippery kelp on the tide (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 4 July 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

Repped it in another thread but: blowpro dry shampoo is cornstarch-based and has a fantastic puff dispenser that makes it super easy and effective to use. I thought it was pricey at $14 fir a tiny bottle but it has lasted so much longer than others I have used.

Xp I will give the almond oil a try - so far I've tried coconut oil, ACV/lavender/teatree, super balm from lush, and head and shoulders, and nothing has really worked.

just1n3, Thursday, 4 July 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

The blowpro is also scentless, which is a huge plus

just1n3, Thursday, 4 July 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

I won't use dry shampoo - it's never worked for me. If you have dark hair it can be like spraying fake dandruff on, too.

If I were you, I'd switch to a gentler shampoo (if you're economising, those big bottles of TRESemmé are good value) and apply conditioner to your hair, not the scalp. It sounds like what you're using is a little bit strippey for your head, which makes your scalp redouble its sebum-producing efforts, vicious-circle style. I settled on the 'ducking head in hot bath water' method because I don't feel clean or like I'm able to de-stress unless I dip all of me in the hottest water I can manage, first thing in the morning.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 4 July 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

Am already doing all that!

just1n3, Thursday, 4 July 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

I thought the problem would resolve itself over time, once I started cutting way down on washing, but it's been a year (or 2 years?) And no change.

just1n3, Thursday, 4 July 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

I rinse my hair in between washes, too, and sometimes give my scalp a scrub with my fingertips. Plus I wash my bangs or else they get really greasy.

carl agatha, Thursday, 4 July 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

i am obeying the instructions of my hairdresser and using special shampoo she sold me. she said it's concentrated so only use small amounts. this was her second suggestion after i refused to wash my hair less frequently because i just like washing my hair. i have more stuff in my scalp now though. like if i scratch my head it's in my fingernails. i can't get it out when i shower anymore. but it does feel like it gets greasy more slowly.

veryupsetmom (harbl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

where did rrobyn go??? miss her :(

quincie, Friday, 19 July 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link

I had a dream that I posted in this thread to ask what a tampon is.

i had a dream that i said to some misogynistic jerk on facebook: "i'm embarrassed that you went to haw school"

Gregory Bateson is always appropriate (sarahell), Sunday, 21 July 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link

haw school grads SHOULD know better!

Oh I remember what I wanted to post ITT

Is it just a given that guys look at porn? I mean, everyone masturbates for sure. It has always made me uncomfortable over the years that whoever I was in a relationship with was jerking it to the hot internet ladies in the other room. This makes me feel like a selfish prude bcz "sex positive" or whatever.

I grew up in a religious culture that is super weird about pornography and masturbation. A lot of that I have got over, but there was always a message that if your man likes porn, he doesn't really love you or find you attractive. I feel conflicted because I know that's not true, or that it's unreasonable to think all 100% of each other's sex needs is going to some from your partner exclusively. Is it? I can't deny that it just makes me feel bad and gross knowing that the guy I love is jerking it to porn in the other room. Also that I feel bad about feeling bad about that. The last part is the part that's fucked.

I guess the part that really bothers me is that it's in my own house, when I'm around, like...why aren't you fucking me??

Also I want to feel like it's ok to feel at the same time 'I know looking at porn is probably some basic part of human sexuality' and 'I think porn on the whole is pretty gross.' I guess I am ashamed that I have an undeniable feeling that I see as being pretty reactionary, too. I don't like that!

I suppose I'd be a bit bugged if my guy was doing it in the next room instead of with me, or at least asking me to join in! But, eh it happens esp in long term live in relationships. Try joining in! Its fun!

I find it always curious how suprised (and usually pleased) guys are when I tell em *I* look at porn. Its not that weird surely!

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Monday, 22 July 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

I didn't grow up in that culture, but I feel the same way as you, and have the same misgivings and feeling bad about feeling bad-ness.

Gregory Bateson is always appropriate (sarahell), Monday, 22 July 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

The way I came to terms with it is that it is an aspect of the privacy and independence that is required for a relationship to be healthy.

Gregory Bateson is always appropriate (sarahell), Monday, 22 July 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link

I did try asking my guy to 'join in,' it felt like 'heh heh I tricked him' sort of manipulative to me. 'I got him to have erotic feelings for me and not the fantasy movie actress! Sucker!' Maybe an awful reaction, but true.

I agree, sarahell, that is the right outlook, and a necessary one. I have had a lot of time off work, which has meant too much time to introspect, or to fixate on relatively small things like this and make them too big. It's been hard to get my head in a good place about this. I think it helps acknowledging to myself that it's ok to find it unsavory.

There really secretly IS a part of me that thinks: Why do I have to accept that guys look at porn? Can't they just not do that? This is the same part of myself that is angry that men can't get pregnant.

I realize it's unfair to be like 'everyone should bend to MY FEELINGS.'

i remember coming across some of the porn my ex was watching while we were together, and it was very much, "ugh, really? high chroma video of permed blondes with fake tits?" I had higher hopes for his taste in porn tbh

Gregory Bateson is always appropriate (sarahell), Monday, 22 July 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

ha, for real :(

we did watch sexy movies together and then, y'know, do it, so it wasn't as if we didn't communicate about that stuff and the role that erotic material plays in getting off.

Gregory Bateson is always appropriate (sarahell), Monday, 22 July 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link

there were just some things that he wanted to do in private - like watch porn with blondes with boob jobs and do foot hygiene

Gregory Bateson is always appropriate (sarahell), Monday, 22 July 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I like to wax my little moustache in private, and listen to The Police, and sometimes look at some animated gif porn on tumblr too. It is only reasonable he should have his own private set of same kind of things.

I guess it also helos that I have friends who I think are pretty sex positive, like my friend who teaches a pole fitness class, and they have this same kind of conflict about their partners' porn habits. I just want to feel ok feeling this way. I don't know how to change my feelings or what it would take to make that happen.

Pictures/videos of naked people doing it are great but porn as an industry, overall, is gross at least as far as power dynamics goes (speaking to hetero porn here, including "girl on girl" created for straight guys). You don't have to be okay with porn just to meet some "sex positive" criteria if you don't feel it. Not being cool with porn doesn't make you sex negative. It just means you are not cool with porn.

As for the initial question, it totally depends on the porn. Also frequency, general attitude towards porn v actual sex, general attitudes towards women, general attitudes towards me and my body. I think it's too complicated to reduce that to porn or no porn.

Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Monday, 22 July 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

Abbs your misgivings/discomfort are YOURS, and real, and valid, yah? And you are aware of how your history/upbringing may be playing into your discomfort, so clearly you already have a lot of self-awareness and insight going on here.

So no way am I gonna suggest that your perspective is outside any "norm," and who the fuck cares about norm, anyway!

Does your partner KNOW about your discomfort, and does he/she take that into consideration and is respectful of that? To me, that is the most important factor at work here.

That said, there are womens (me, for example) who embrace "porn" as part of an enjoyable and mutually respectful/comfortable/stimulating sex life, both as partner-sex and individual sex (aka fantasy, masturbation, etc.). But I am picky about what sorts of external eroticism we bring into our relationship; my partner is on the same page; we are attuned to each other's feelings about erotic "other" stuff (porn, toys, etc). My partner also has preferences and limits of comfort, which I respect.

I dunno this is really TMI for me, but it is an important question and we should talk about it!

quincie, Monday, 22 July 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link

Oh and I'd say that I veto about 99% of porn out there on the internets; my partner is of like mind. That's why I put "porn" in scarequotes, because the stuff I choose is like nonporny partnersex womanpositvestuff uuuugh I'm gonna STFU now.

quincie, Monday, 22 July 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link


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