no boys allowed in the room!!!!

OK that last bit alone would make me punchy let alone the rest!

oh man, that is not okay. i'm really sorry, suzy.

Between the lines of my messages one could read 'well, you could have asked permission and if you didn't STEAL we wouldn't be having this conversation'.

honestly, it sounds like you handled this pretty controlledly. i think i would have been incoherent with rage and yelled at her.

It was via the magic of Facebook messages so there was no opportunity for DECIBELS.

My MO for dealing with her incoherent messages is to a) use multi-syllabic fifty-center vocab words or shoehorn in a correct 'could have' in any response and b) go into total Vulcan mode. After 20+ years of this crap (she has stolen from my mom to gamble in the past) she is very, very lucky there are approximately 4000 miles between us.

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE GUY WHO HELPFULLY ANNOUNCED “DAAAAAMN BITCH, YOU FAT!” TO ME IN THE TARGET PARKING LOT THIS MORNING

You probably think the only place I belong is wherever you can’t see me, ideally in the dark, behind closed doors. You need protection from having my big old fat self out there polluting your visual landscape, like I think I have a right to go anyplace I want, like I think I have a right to force people who find my body offensive to look at me. How you must suffer. Allow me to break out the world’s fattest violin.

I love Leslie Kinzel. She's hilarious and OTM.

Right. On.

Yeah, Leslie is great. She rocks some awesome manicures too.

I never learn, do I?

:-(

some douchebag called you fat in a parking lot, too?

No, it was just a vague sigh of disappointment with myself for acting like a bull in a thread where dude-bros were having fun waving their favourite flags.

you are an Aries, though, right?

I sure am. ::makes devil horns sign::

so don't let whatever dude-bros say bother you

I'm not bothered by what they said, I'm bothered by my inability to contain my snark sometimes.

n/m

you give good snark, WCC, fuck the haters!

::devil horns:: you rawk sarahell!

(don't know why I'm into devil horns tonight. I blame painkillers)

I don't know what I was hoping for when I searched for "ram with devil horns" but I definitely did not find the cute picture of a ram throwing devil horns that I was hoping form. Or even a particularly demonic looking ram.

meanwhile the animated .gif from "altered states" that was on the "goat eyes" thread doesn't show up anymore

sad :(

wait these ones are still there

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/goat.gif

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/goat2.gif

the 2nd one is my fave!

Nice.

gifs 4 all time

Man saw the cutest boy at a show I'm at. Need to learn how to hit on ppl.

Things ILX has taught me:

1) a well deployed gif in the right place can be awesome
2) you don't have to pretend you like music that does nothing for you in order to impress a dude
3) you don't have to pretend you don't like the music that you do because a dude might sneer at you
4) you don't have to spend time talking to someone who repeatedly ignores your boundaries
5) trust your instincts, if everyone is defending/promoting someone who made you v v uncomfortable, you do not have to agree
6) you don't have to feel sorry for or guilty about 2, 3, 4 or 5

These are things that have been bouncing around my head all night. I haven't slept very well.

I really wish I could turn off my brain sometimes. But at least I didn't have nightmares about the 9-eyed devil-jesus goat gifs which I totally thought I was going to.

I hate the shirt I'm wearing today and I'm not cold but have nipples for miles. Actually, I hate the skirt I'm wearing, too, or maybe it's the skirt with the shirt. Anyway, one of those days.

Hate those kinds of days.

Sometimes on those days I go to the local "cheap clothes for $10" store and just replace part of my outfit. I know the $5 t-shirts are sewn by paralyzed enslaved orphans in a country wracked by civil war, global warming, and the seven plagues but sometimes professional embarrassment is too high a price.

I was thinking about doing that but thought I was overreacting! Thank you for the validation.

Haha why do you think I have 3 of the same too-tight white scoop-neck Tshirt that I wear under sweaters and stuff?

I'm not cold but have nipples for miles

this is never not a problem for me, so i just bought these

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00207OAI4/ref=ox_ya_os_product

hoping they're shipped in a nondescript box, as they're coming to my workplace.

You know that moment where you're kind of annoyed about something, but not seriously annoyed, just "this is annoying" kind of level of annoyed? And then someone comes in and makes out like you are being "crazy shouting lady"? And that characterisation, which you feel is totally unfair, *that* flips you into full-on rage mode? That.

(It's almost like they know that that this is a thing that will completely unbalance you, and so that's why they deploy it.)

But never mind.

I know that all too well.

In small mercies, I really like the shirt I'm wearing today. I should concentrate on that instead. It's one of the things I got in the Laurel-inspired shopping trip.

yes.

once i was giving a coworker shit about saying some mildly misogynistic stuff, but it was a happy hour and everyone was kind of drunk so i was trying to keep my tone light, and he got all, c'mon, you're being too sensitive!!! and then i yelled at him for real.

Woo! xp

I know I shouldn't do this, because I will get accused of all sorts of terrible things, but, WCC, are you talking about this post?

this thread is like when you're talking to someone in a hallway and they start to describe an argument they recently had with someone. in telling the story the gradually shift into a mode where they're impersonating the argument. then they get really into it and you, as a listener, are morphed into the person that they recently had the argument with, and pretty soon you're just getting yelled at in a hallway

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Because it specifically says that THE WHOLE THREAD is like that. And other people who follow it suggest it should be an ENTIRE BOARD DESCRIPTION. It is not targeted at you, it is not even gendered.

Nobody called you a crazy shouting lady. Saying that is not lampshading or gaslighting, it is simply the truth. They may have made you feel small by reminding you of other times that people have called you such things, but they didn't do it themselves. I am not saying that you're not allowed to feel hurt that your participation in the thread is described as such. I'm just saying that it was not aimed at your participation alone. I'm not saying that your past experiences are invalid or non-existent, I'm just saying that the words that are actually written are important, as well as the history you bring to them.

I know I shouldn't do this

You're right. You shouldn't do that.

not sure where else to put this but: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/7595532/Breastapo-tactics-upset-bottle-feeders

this is so insane to me!!!!

The ministry contracts the NZ Breastfeeding Authority to audit maternity facilities to be "baby friendly", as part of New Zealand's obligations to the World Health Organisation and Unicef. Nearly all maternity facilities are currently accredited.

Under the baby-friendly policy, mothers must make an “informed decision on feeding”, but formula cannot be discussed during antenatal classes. To retain the baby-friendly accreditation, maternity units must maintain an 80 per cent exclusive breastfeeding rate.

there was an earlier article on this, and it mentioned some tv ad (i forget the subject) which featured a famous NZ sportsman bottle-feeding his kid - ppl went CRAZY complaining that it promoted formula-feeding... no mention of how maybe there was BREAST MILK in that bottle, so that both parents can share parenting duties????

Yeah, it's nuts. I understand encouraging breastfeeding - it's healthier and more economical for a start. There are, however, many reasons that might make it extremely difficult or impossible for some women to breastfeed and that those mothers are made to feel bad about deciding to formula feed really makes me angry. In some cases choosing to formula/bottle feed is really a decision that enable the mom to be the best parent she can be (work, stress because bfeeding isn't going well, whatever) and it's awful how women who choose that route are often demonized.

Yep, friend of mine couldnt bf due to severe mastitis, and thanks to naggy snippy people judging her she ended up having a breakdown :/

As I've said on some other thread, the claims people make about breastfeeding are overstated most of the time at best and misleading at worst. There are simply too many variables that affect children's health outcomes...to say for certain that breastfeeding plays as big a role as we're currently saying it does is bananas.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/04/the-case-against-breast-feeding/307311/

one of the women interviewed in that article had someone say to her 'if you can't breastfeed you shouldn't breed' - what the fucking fuck?????

x-post - Oh nice, will read later.

Yeah, it is a little crazy. I think it at least started well-intentioned after a couple decades where formula feeding was the norm and women weren't really encouraged to breastfeed at all but it's going totally the other way and just seems a bit extreme. Make whatever choice allows you to parent to the best of your ability, you know? Formula isn't evil - the kid will be fine.

OTM

Breastfeeding seems to be rare in the small towns I have been in, per the pediatrician offices I visit. Not everyone can do it and feel lucky and grateful that I have been able to. But because I do, I worry constantly about the quality of my milk. So far, our baby is where she should be, if not better, so I continue.

The impression I have had is that breast milk is only healthy if you are. I have never thought breast milk across the board is good, all individual, many variables. I know programs like WIC emphasize breastfeeding for economic reasons but also stress a well balanced diet to do so.

I do know of a woman who was dead set on breastfeeding despite the fact that her pediatrician said her baby was not thriving and should be switched to formula. She refused to switch. I have no idea what happened to her or her baby but that is an example of what can happen where there is a heavy pressure to breastfeed.

Based on a documentary I once saw, New Zealand is where just about everyone has a micro farm in their backyard, make their own soap and clothing, harvest their own salad and honey.....so that article doesn't surprise me.

That's the image nz sells to the rest of the world, but believe me - it's far from true

Do tell....less creepy thinking most of the country is not a commune.