Rolling CHALLENGING OPINIONS thread 2008

it's so so shit btw

i first saw it when it had like 20 followers when dom retweeted it. and dom was the only ilx-connected follower at that point.

to whomever is running that account it should really be a humblebrag RT only affair is what it should be

yes

c'est vrai

la goon otm

it's dom and some other ppl

GUYS WE HAVE COME FULL CIRCLE

"cult-like organizations often prey on emotionally fragile people in desperate circumstances."

yeah, they are called churches!

― scott seward, Monday, July 2, 2012 3:06 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the end is the beginning is the end

Adults being into this is no weirder than people watching CSI-style crime shows glamorizing the most nightmarish and violent aspects of society. Or any 24 Hour News channel fwiw.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Remember how big of a thing "challenging opinions"/challops used to be on ILX? Now no one talks about them anymore. It's a sad state of affairs.

Even if it was confusing because there were two different things simultaneously being called "challenging opinions."

i think the majority of opinions posted on this site nowadays could be categorized as one of the two types of challops.

you think that, do you

i felt challenged by that opinion

leading by example, friends

challenging opinions are friends too, ppl

we need to re-think what an unchallenging opinion could be in 2014

"I enjoy pizza"

"That bloke out of U2 seems a bit up himself"

"I think Russia might be up to something in Ukraine"

we have enough of those sorts of opinions already

we have enough opinions already tbh

need more polls imo

Challops won

idk seems like trenchant commentary thread split the vote here

also it'd be bad form to post challops from girls only thread

is ilx just a way to make fun of people now?

I guess "trenchant social commentary," which is basically a subset of challenging opinions, does OK still.

ilx seems like it's always been a way to make fun of people from what i know about it

well I dint wanna say

how do you like something on this board?

with words

you really don't want to get caught liking anything

it's ilxatown

http://gawker.com/tag/challops

somebody at gawker owes roxymuzak a bonus

People will spend 8 hours a day posting to ILM and spend $50 on 'brunch' but will still gawk at buying a nice pair of headphones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

― 龜, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:55 AM (13 minutes ago)

tomscocca [1:13 PM] "Blue Velvet is terrible" is just a challop.

drew [1:13 PM] What is a challop

Samer [1:14 PM] drew: challenging opinion, i think

barry [1:14 PM] does a challop differ from a hot take?

Tommy Craggs [1:14 PM] "blue velvet" is a favorite of film-school types because it allows them to sneer at the rubes

tomscocca [1:14 PM] A hot take is a reaction to an event.

Tommy Craggs [1:14 PM] hence: "jeff koons: the movie"

marchman [1:14 PM] A challop is a challenging opinion that the person offering it doesn't actually believe, or expect anyone to believe he believes

tomscocca [1:14 PM] A challop is something that the person carries always around waiting to deploy.

Burneko [1:15 PM] blue velvet isn't even genuinely weird; it's superficially weird, and actually boring as hell

billy haisley [1:15 PM] blue velvet is way too straightforward to be a film-school type favorite

marchman [1:15 PM] "Blue Velvet is trash" is definitely a challop

marchman [1:15 PM] It's not weird at all, it's a very conventional movie

Tommy Craggs [1:15 PM] that's a challop

marchman [1:15 PM] It's just exceptionally well done

Tommy Craggs [1:15 PM] "blue velvet is not weird" is a challop

tomscocca [1:15 PM] Never imagined Deadspin would be so fired up for Columbus Day.

barry [1:16 PM] can't we start a "Deadspin olds" room and take this conversation there?

marchman [1:16 PM] How is it weird? It's bog standard suburban anomie

drew [1:16 PM] Stop saying challop. Now I want seafood

Burneko [1:16 PM] hahah

tomscocca [1:16 PM] "Anomie" Jesus Christ Marchman.

harvilla [1:16 PM] hot take: the word 'challop' sucks

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/does-david-lynch-suck-a-pointless-discussion-1643425148

blue velvet is terrible tho

i think the first person to use the term "challops" was roxy iirc

max introduced challop to gawker recently.... very few people are on board/use it correctly

I saw "challops" in a gawker comment yesterday. iirc, I spent a second or two trying to make sense of it in context.

I disagree with harvilla on "challop"

such a lively character (84 year-old Jodorowsky), his conviction (enthusiasm, bitterness etc.) is so apparent, it's really inspiring.

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:29 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Such a lively character" He is like a perfect composite of all the worst aspects of every pretentious bore you could meet in a lifetime and his movies are childish fucking idiotic garbage.

― xelab, Monday, 3 November 2014 00:17 (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

xelab ✓

Eminem, unretired.

Oh pish posh. He exploited the potential of cinema much more than either Chaplin or Keaton (both of whom, yes, exploited it exceedingly well and have many masterpieces under their belts). Tati may have surpassed Lewis on that level but he lacks Lewis' grotesque personality which is essential to his life-affirming effect. I'm reminded of something Richard Barrios's disdain for Al Jolson (a key Lewis progenitor) in The Singing Fool: "Charisma, when applied this relentlessly, becomes oppressive." But yo, Richard, that's precisely why we go to the movies (or listen to, I don't know, Morrissey): to witness a gargantuan, out of control ego as a way to measure the contours of our own steady paths. If I wanted an even-keeled experience, I'd knock on my neighbor's door and ask to borrow some sugar.

P.S. Pizza is stupid and boring.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:32 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, nice guy with crazy cinema knowledge but this place aint big enough etc

meant to say i miss that guy, is all

Fincher a weird choice for "class of 1999" as he'd already made his best movie, The Game, two years earlier

man

oh god