"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster."
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 17 January 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
"What do I care about the purring of one who cannot love, like the cat?"
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhbCr7uO6Sc
^^^ 0:43 onwards.
― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 17 January 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link
: | @ thread
― The Reverend, Friday, 18 January 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
isnt lol list discussion the oldest news by now
― J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link
-- The Reverend, Friday, January 18, 2008 12:44 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
― J0rdan S., Friday, 18 January 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
lol u guize r butthurt
― jergïns, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link
good thared!
― W4LTER, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Not butthurt, just kind of : |, ya know? Kind of a mid-point on the : D to butthurt continuum.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 20 January 2008 08:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I got rid of the box ages ago which I sorta regret. Maybe I was miffed that techno had usurped house in the zeitgeist. More likely it was just too damn patchy (although admittedly the house box was too).
But. I took a History of American Popular Music course c. 1991 and said history apparently stopped with Aretha's "Bridge Over Troubled Water" since that was the last song the prof played. However, for the last day of class, he asked us to bring one song from the 1990s which we thought pointed towards the future (and, yes, that means yet again the 1980s weren't part of history).
Anyhoo, I remember only three examples of the future of music as of 1991: Seal (!), The Nylons (!!!), and Little Richard's "Itsy Bitsy Spider" (! x infinity). Seal, I can forgive - Prog&B sounded pretty futuristic back then. But the fuckin' Nylons??? Wasn't the point of their music, such as it is, to look back? And come the fuck on. Little Richard??? Worship him but was he the future of anything by 1960 much less 1991?
I was in a rage by the time I walked up to the front of the class to play Zone: "Eternal #2" from this comp which was authorless in a way very much unlike "Itsy Bitsy Freakin' Spider." And boy did I sound a lot like those liner notes while pumping my choice. But it was such an amazing experience. Half the class seemed awakened for the first time all semester while about a quarter were stunned and/or whispering to one another as if I just unveiled Jeff Koons' "Made in Heaven" series (leaving one quarter completely unfazed). The prof was cool at first, asking me where the term "house music" came from and whatnot. But he got downright frosty when the conversation evolved into a gripefest about Rolling Stone. It was awesome. Eventually he had to tell me to sit down since he realized part of what we were bitching about was the truncated history he'd been handing us all semester.
Of course, it all seems a bit silly now if only because the concept of "future" in a capitalist society is nothing to parade about. Still, the very real folk behind Zone get my vote for affording me the opportunity to shake up that bullshit class for five minutes.
P.S. I wrote my final paper on The Frogs' It's Only Right and Natural, imagining it as a collection of songs hidden away in an attic for 100+ years. I got an A but there were no comments on the paper.
-- Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, January 20, 2008 5:28 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
― El Tomboto, Monday, 21 January 2008 01:12 (sixteen years ago) link
kevin jon bazooka: blowing 50% of minds in his own head since 1991
― omar little, Monday, 21 January 2008 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link
hahaha
― roxymuzak, Monday, 21 January 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link
i finally heard the lcd soundsystem joint and its garbage for real... sounds like marcy playground with beats
-- and what
― omar little, Monday, 21 January 2008 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link
^truth
HAW
― roxymuzak, Monday, 21 January 2008 04:20 (sixteen years ago) link
fuckin guy
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 21 January 2008 06:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Easy listening's biggest impact is that it
1. made "Wonderwall" a much bigger hit than it already was and turned it into sort of the ultimate Britpop anthem 2. brought the world Neil Hannon.
-- Geir Hongro, Monday, 21 January 2008 13:23 (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 21 January 2008 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 21 January 2008 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link
he's not wrong though
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 21 January 2008 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link
even a totally insane clock is right twice a day
― n/a, Monday, 21 January 2008 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link
No love for "He Thought of Cars"?
-- marc h., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 15:01 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
Wait, it was #2, as it should be. Carry on...
-- marc h., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 15:02 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link
That fucking guy...
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Is there a "Rolling People Who Never Ever Read Any Previous Posts on a Thread before Posting" thread?
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Can't believe no-one's posted this one yet! Come ON!
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmm, apparently there are 561 P&J ballots, as opposed to only 452 Ipop ballots. That's kinda unexpected.
-- Ioannis, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 14:25 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
"Wait a minute, I thought Idolator changed the world? I'm confused?"
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link
http://library.thinkquest.org/26618/gather/expressions/31/disappointed.jpg
― omar little, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
and NYC?.... Peaches stood on stage at Exit—alone but for a backup dancer—wearing black leather panties and a halter top and screaming about fucking the pain away. Wendy O. Williams had her chainsaw, Peaches has an oversized neon dildo; both, when brandished, represent the same nihilistic essence. In the late '70s and early '80s, DIY was an excuse to play guitars, badly. Today, the same ethic is pouring forth from keyboards. Village Voice (2001)
alas, Electroclash has taken off. Any comments?
-- , Friday, April 12, 2002 8:00 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
also haven't gotten sick of "please don't stop the music"
-- gr8080, Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:52 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
grady do you like "the way i are"
-- J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
a lot.
-- gr8080, Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:56 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
― gr8080, Thursday, 24 January 2008 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link
the de-rocking of indie rock is a whole different issue, and would make for a good discussion though i have to imagine that it's been discussed on ilm in some thread at some point before
-- J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:54 (16 minutes ago) Link
― W4LTER, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
lol SFJ0rdan
― The Reverend, Friday, 25 January 2008 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Ha. Idolator misspelled Antonina Armato's name.
-- Frank Kogan, Friday, January 18, 2008
― gershy, Friday, 25 January 2008 08:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Song you would most like to hear covered by artist of your choice.
I couldn't think of a more concise title. But anyways, I thought of this thread because I really wanted to hear The Fiery Furnaces cover Mother Whale Eyeless by Eno. Damn, I think that would be such a good song.
What would be your fantastical song/band combination?
-- our work is never over, Friday, 25 January 2008 18:10 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 25 January 2008 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
You can't be called "our work is never over" and then (bad) post a picture of Daft Punk and then (worse) actually SAY Daft Punk and then (worst of all) change it to fucking Fierey Furnacese!!! The rules are there for a reason.
-- contenderizer, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:16 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Oh?
I live by my own rules baby.
-- our work is never over, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:17 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Yeah, I dunno, it's Friday.
-- contenderizer, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:18 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Whats wrong with enjoying both daft punk and the fiery furnaces?
-- our work is never over, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:19 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Absolutely nothing. I'm not sure I ever even said anything.
-- contenderizer, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:28 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Well on the bright side, the picture of that duo you posted, is probably the best one.
-- our work is never over, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:31 (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Bands / artists with NO "clunkers"
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 26 January 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=41
― roxymuzak, Saturday, 26 January 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
roxypwn
― gr8080, Saturday, 26 January 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Assholes - AlexinNYC - Hongro - Goldberg - Eddy = All time great starting lineup
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 January 2008 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.vtv.vn/HTML/Data/resources/Original/Image/2007/7/10/2007710233251_brazil%201970.jpg
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 27 January 2008 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.businessinnovationinsider.com/images/2006/06/USA%20Dream%20Team.jpg
L-R: Steve Goldberg, Chuck Eddy, Alex in NYC, If Asshole Could Fly, Geir Hongro
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 January 2008 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link
What about Working For A Nuclear Free City? They're a good modern indie band.
(note: the rason they aren't on the list is because they've only got one album at this point, which I don't think is enough for a band that is still going)
-- liamail, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:00 (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I was trying to find that "New Posters of Value" thread for him.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link
We shd have a sweep on how many days before he's banned after launching into a comedy homophobic rant at somebody like Tuomas.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
do you hang around threads looking to swoop?
"HOMOPHOBE! RACIST! EMPLOYED!"
― darraghmac, Sunday, 27 January 2008 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Project much?
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 January 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
don't mind me, lee young-pyo is making me nervous.
― darraghmac, Sunday, 27 January 2008 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link
wow darraghmac you really hate noodle vague
― max, Sunday, 27 January 2008 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link
rather the reverse. i think he seems a nice fella, he's far from keen on me.
― darraghmac, Sunday, 27 January 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
The impulse to correct is straight love, dude.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 January 2008 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link
cool, it leaves me more hate to concentrate on the jol/robinson/dawson axis of evil.
― darraghmac, Sunday, 27 January 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I would like "A Punk" if it was something Jonathan Richman or whoever did twenty years ago, but because it's new I think it sucks.
-- Bodrick III, Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:44 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link
Great point.
-- Noodle Vague, Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:51 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link
― gr8080, Sunday, 27 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
"in conflict" more like "problematic"
― gr8080, Friday, 30 January 2015 06:43 (nine years ago) link
It seems that everytime when this subject is brought up here, the kneejerk reaction among people who like misogynic/sexist rap tunes to say "but other genres too it do!" (even with genres where sexism is clearly less prominent) instead of trying to honestly address why they are not bothered by the lyrics, or why they can get past them even if they are bothered.
Just to make sure, I've listened to a lot of misogynic/sexist rap myself, I know there are historical/cultural/sociological reasons why sexism is more prominent in some types of rap than in many other pop music genres, I know that I'm a white European and that the complexities of the lived experience of many of these rappers is something I can never fully understand, I know you have to contextualize sexism, I know that it doesn't make sense to directly compare genres with a wholly different approach to lyrics... So I can still listen to that kind of rap when the sexism isn't blatant, but when it become too gross you just get tired of trying to jump through so many contextualization hoops, so you're just like, fuck it, there's enough good rap music that doesn't do this shit, so why should I listen to one that does, why should I support musicians who help to reproduce the idea that one half of humankind is worth less than the other half?
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 January 2015 12:28 (nine years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
thanks for saying what I was too radged-up to say :)
― pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way (imago), Friday, 30 January 2015 12:52 (nine years ago) link
there's no reason you should, which is why it's a good thing nobody is saying you have to listen to, enjoy or agree with misogynist rap
xp I think ppl got annoyed because you didn't give much indication that you are aware of all the things tuomas spent most of a paragraph assuring us he is
― socki fan taytay (wins), Friday, 30 January 2015 13:05 (nine years ago) link
Of course, but my main point was that I find it kinda weird that, with people here who apparently enjoy some sexist rap tunes (and vote for them in polls), when asked about how they're able to enjoy that stuff, their favourite response seems to be, "but there's sexism in other genres too!". Well of course there is, of course blatant sexism in any kind of music should be questioned, but I don't see how this is justification for tolerating it in these particular tunes. And I'm not saying there can't sometimes be good enough reasons for tolerating it, but this kind of "the other kids are doing it too!" rhetoric is just dodging the question instead of addressing it honestly.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 January 2015 13:20 (nine years ago) link
maybe ppl aren't grading their tunes based on politics can u imagine
― local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 30 January 2015 14:28 (nine years ago) link
... or lyrics
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
we should lock contenderizer + tim f in a thread together and let them generate text for eternity
― Mordy, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
When we polling this muthafucka?....
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, January 30, 2015 5:44 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― gr8080, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link
i am generator hear me text
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 January 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link
Faust Arp is probably my favourite track now, although it was Weird Fishes for ages
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 6 March 2015 13:25 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Nude makes this album. Everything else hangs around it.
― Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Friday, 6 March 2015 14:16 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
rubbish, boring album, maybe their most boring album
― vacuum head tree disease (imago), Friday, 6 March 2015 14:29 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― nakhchivan, Friday, 6 March 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link
skilfully eliding the next post
― vacuum head tree disease (imago), Friday, 6 March 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
Kyuss pales in comparison to a lot of the bands listed here. Finding a groove, turning up to 11 then moving on to listen to rush Limbaugh or Sean hannity or whatever the fuck that idiot is into is not my idea of a great band.
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Saturday, September 13, 2014 9:38 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― brimstead, Monday, 30 March 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link
PoliopolicePosted: 9 April 2015 03:13:07"Under My Thumb" by the Rolling Stones is pretty misogynistic.
― Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Thursday, 9 April 2015 05:06 (nine years ago) link
Do you have eclectic taste in music?
i can only imagine
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 5 January 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link
yeah, no one is making lists or arguing about ratings
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
lists of eclectic formats
― German dictators and their loving coombes (wins), Thursday, 7 January 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
old music vs new music was a tedious, played out discussion even for 2007 ilm, thank god it's been parlayed into a debate about formats
― German dictators and their loving coombes (wins), Thursday, 7 January 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link
lol i am a little embarrassed to have participated but what else are you gonna do when you are procrastinating at work
― marcos, Thursday, 7 January 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link
between that and the uncut list thread it has been pretty dire since the year-end critics shit ended
― marcos, Thursday, 7 January 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
Possibly I'm just grumpy
I'm not actually one of those people who dislikes ilm although I rarely post there but yeah it's been particularly groundhogdaysuicide.gif lately (don't forget the eclectic thread)
― German dictators and their loving coombes (wins), Thursday, 7 January 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link
yes, the year-end critics thread was highly enlightening
― sarahell, Thursday, 7 January 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link
really hate the british list threads that devolve into amateur sociology. sorry brits.
― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link
there was supposed to be a comma there. sorry, brits
― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:01 (eight years ago) link
If I had access to a time machine, I'd go back to 1994 all and play 'em something like, I dunno, the recent Bloc Party record or The 1975 or a recent Coldplay record and be all like: "This is what is going to happen to music", and the people of 1994 would be like "FUCK! FUCK! NO! We must do what we can to ensure this NEVER happens!"
― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:27 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
"I hate those fucking trumpets blasting like they are about to explode. Norteño music is garbage."
― lute bro (brimstead), Saturday, 2 April 2016 09:56 (eight years ago) link
I've heard half of those Norman Records list... some of them are really good and glad they're giving deserved attention to some ignored records but there's also some boring ones in there. At any rate these sort of 'non-zeigeist' lists are always better than the consensus ones. Yeah we all love Lemonade but I prefer finding out about records I might have overlooked instead of the ones we've talked about all year.
― No longer active (Moka), Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:29 PM (fifty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
my All Music Guide album picks are
#1.Human Interest - greathttp://grooveshark.com/s/Human+Interest/8WdTY?src=5
#2.Hand Over Fist - goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eEb0SC6R0M
#3.Luau - o.k.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcxxh1yewhM
the rest of the album is a dud for me.
― TabForaCause.com, Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:34 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― na (NA), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
(re: yank crime)
"It's Nice to Have a Friend" is the most interesting track, IMO. How would you describe that musical setting? It's evoking or imitating, what, a certain style of Chinese music?
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 23 August 2019 22:20 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Saturday, 24 August 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
lol is it in pentatonic scale?
― Mordy, Sunday, 25 August 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link
Certainly that is what one would assume
― The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 August 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link