haha totally. duckie listening to the smiths, tossing cards into a hat.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
please please please let me get what i want
― kate78, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
mattress on the floor with no box spring reminds me of the sad scene of duckie's bedroom
i thought that was the coolest thing when i was a teenager, though!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
lol - Jenny - I was thinking the New Order "Age of Consent" topic - not the mattresses/hostel topic
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Me, toooooooooooo I tossed so many cards into hats. It's funny. I was supposed to identify with Andy, but she was so defined by the dudes around her, that instead I just desperately wanted to be Ducky.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
HA, sarahel, okay! Haha.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i tried for years to find a Ducky-like jacket! That was my vintage store holy grail for a while.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i never tossed a single card into a hat in my lifethat scene made me think that duckie might be homeless/a squatter/orphaned, but as a kid i always thought that when one character never had on-screen parents and the other one did (see also: some kind of wonderful)
i mean, i didn't REALLY think he was a street waif (he did go to school and try to do his homework), but the thought crossed my mind
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i was mildly curious as to duckie's home life situation. i didn't think he was a squatter but i did think maybe his parents weren't in the picture and he was renting a room somewhere.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
but if he was renting a room he probably would have to quit high school and get a job so no.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
but almost all of those 80s teen movies had minimal parental presence! My mom referred to the characters in those movies as "pod children" because they never seemed to have any parents, as if they were generated from pods like in Invasion of the Body Snatchers
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
but john hughes was invested in at least getting a representative moment of parents being awful onscreen. and harry dean stanton is fairly prominent in pretty in pink. kids bitch about their parents in john hughes movies at least. with duckie, it was like his entire life involved trailing andie around.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Pretty in Pink means a lot to me, guys.
yeah, i just remember the distinction between the ones who did and the ones who didn't more than the overall absence of parents
watts - no visible parents, has no one to eat withkeith - dad is obsessed with his future, eats dinner with his family every night
duckie - throws cards angrily into a hat in his sad graffiti roomsam - unemployed pop cares enough to buy her a dress (albeit an ugly one)
lloyd - has a sister, but don't remember any parents (were they dead?)diane - affectionate overzealous dad
surely there are more, but those are the ones that i remember most clearly. it didn't help that in english class we were always reading about little picaresque street urchins.
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, but you only get a moment, then the parents conveniently disappear in order to further the plot. this bred years of resentment of my parents who were around a lot (like they never went on vacation, and my dad was a school teacher so he was home all day during the summer) and neither cool or awful.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
xp - i liked some kind of wonderful more than pretty in pink because keith's parents seemed more like my parents in terms of their regular presence in his life, plus Watts had a cool car and played drums - and of course, there was Duncan
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
shit, english AND spanish classi was under the impression that the world is very full of industrious orphaned waifs on a journey
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I always assumed that Duckie had parents but they were of the sort who did not care if their son spray painted his walls or slept on a mattress on the floor. So either super permissive hippies/artists or drunks. Or both. The Glass Castle by Duckie Dale.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
oh yeah - lots of orphaned waifs in english class!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
that seems plausible
xp
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
There were parents all over the place in Sixteen Candles and Weird Science.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
those parents went on vacation!!!!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
god i LOVE weird science
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i totally had a Watts moment in my early 20s - where i dressed up in pseudo-chauffeur garb to pick up my best friend (who I had a huge crush on) and his gf at the airport.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
that's crazy sarahel!
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
he was also a painter, he later became my bf
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Did you play drums? Where were your parents during this time?
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
haha
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i didn't start playing drums until i was 31! my parents lived 70 miles away.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i did sleep on a mattress on the floor though!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
did you offer to help him practice kissing while he was at work?
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i fantasized about it. the relationship was more complicated than that though ...
i didn't start playing drums until i was 31!
i'm a touch older than that (34) but you just gave me some much needed HOPE
!!
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i totally sublimated a crush on a guy by having him give me drum lessons
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
AMANDA. Take drum lessons. I will take piano lessons at a certain community college where I get half-price classes. We'll have a band.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm super excited because i actually have room in my apartment for a piano now
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i want to, but i don't know if i want to pay for them! our band will be hilarious. i should warn you that every time i have tried to write a song it sounds like a weird al song.
maybe we will write weird al style songs.
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
you could probably get some under-employed musician to teach you for like $20-25 a lesson
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't have a piano, but I have a nice full-sized keyboard that Amanda gave me! And since we're moving to a bigger place, I'll have a place to put it that is not under the bed. Rock!
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
did you ever read that Sassy article about how to start your own band?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I did get an offer from a friend who lives like 3 blocks away, but I was shy about pursuing it. I guess I sort of need to be taught some basics -- I don't want to just like flail around like a toddler. I need a little structure. He offered me use of his drum set, but didn't seem to want to take the time to teach a grown ass woman how to do really basic shit.
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
just like everything else, there are tutorials on the internet. but having someone actually teach me really helped. Take him up on it!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i realize my reticence to pursue this goes against my advice above, but it also involves spending time in some dude's apartment which is kinda weird
i will do this someday, i swear it
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
it's kinda awkward and weird when you start playing as it is - you'll feel totally goofy (at least i did), so if the dude feels weird about having some chick in his apartment you'll be somewhat even
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I had some kind of "Learn to Play Rock Drums the Easy Way" dealie when I was a kid. It came with tapes and I had a little drum pad, and drum sticks. I would sit at our kitchen counter and use the washer (it was one of those portable ones that you could hook up to the faucet) as a bass drum and an empty bottle as a cymbal.
Unfair world alert: when we got to pick our band instruments in fourth grade, I tried to pick drums, but the school had a rule that if you were a girl, you had to be in sixth grade before you could start to play drums.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh that sucks!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
It's okay. I played saxophone instead, and last time I tried (three or four years ago), I could still play the sax intro to Baker Street so I think it worked out okay.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Jenny! Amanda! Did you have screenings of Free to Be You And Me when you were in grade school?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
playing drums is so fun. i'm not great at it and in total admiration for anyone who does it well - so much body-brain coordination!
i just got a new jam space :D playing there for first time on friday. and oh i am gonna play loud and do some healthy yelling/singing. sweetness.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
No! I didn't even know what that was until I went to college and heard somebody sing it.
xp yay Robyn! Jam space is awesome!
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link