i dunno -- i think chasing makes sense if you genuinely like the person. otherwise you just sit there pretending to not care and that doesn't work when both people do it, now does it
chasing worked for me, though i didn't do it with the embarrassing fervor i had done it in the past
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
also this is like 150,000 xposts, but riding to and from social events is pretty much the reason that i can get myself to go to social events like 90% of the time
i'm seriously thinking abt winterizing my mountain bike this year! at least for neighbourhood jaunts (my road bike is too much summer fun, don't want to wreck it)
i think my new answer is to just let my true loving self shine through any silly anxieties these days tbh. getting over caring abt what people think as long as i'm not hurting anyone, right? embrace the weirdness
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
that's my mottoit's part of the true unfettered glory of one's 30s imo
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
the only time i have to rein it in a little is at work, but students aren't allowed to see full on 100% me anyway. too vulnerable!
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
OTM
I didn't even realize how liberating this actually was until Jeff and I were at this free outdoor concert that was well attended by many cool kids and I started to get anxious about whether I was reading as appropriate hip for my surroundings and it hit me: I'm a 37-year-old fat lady here straight from my business casual lawyer job and of COURSE I don't fit in, but I'm really happy to be sitting outside and watching this band I really like and *mental bird-flipping to all concern attendees*.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Let's address some typos, shall we? "Appropriate" should be "appropriately" and "concern" should be "concert."
Sheesh.
if you're over 30 and you're still making yourself sick about what other people think, yr doin it rong
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't go to pfork at all, but that's because i forgot when it was and i was on vacation
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
heh, i read it as "concerned attendees" and that made sense too!
i'm totally unconcerned about being too weird or uncool because i'm "old" - i was at a friend's house about a month ago, and looking at his hipster roommate's tape collection, which is in the kitchen, and commented that it really resembled my tape collection circa 1987, and hipster roommate got a bit defensive, and we got into an argument about what was the best New Order album - he disputed my assertion that it was Power Corruption & Lies, but it turned out he really likes to argue, so I think I actually rose in his estimation.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, the concert in question was the Caribou show in Millennium Park. I didn't go to Pitchfork either b/c it's hot outside and we're moving plus fuck portapotties. Another thing I get to not care about now that I'm over 30: prioritizing sanitation and personal comfort over wanting everybody to think I'm the kind of person who doesn't care about portapotties or filthy dive bar bathrooms. It turns out I do care. I fucking care a lot.
xp Of course it's Power Corruption & Lies (although I am very fond of Brotherhood in a totally uncool way).
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
"Age of Consent" has an eerie habit of coming up on shuffle on my ipod when i'm leaving a show or party having had bad guy chasing experiences
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I am listening to that right now. Which is actually not that odd since I put on PC&L because you just mentioned it.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha re: prioritizing sanitation - like how at age 28 i was travelling and suddenly was just like fuck this hostel shit we're staying in a hotel. never go back.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
lol - roxy is on tour and can't contribute to this thread right now
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
YES. The days of using a bag of my own dirty clothes as a pillow are OVER, motherfuckers.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, Roxy is a rock star so that's different.
also - sleeping on mattresses on the floor - i don't care if i lost punk or boho cred or whatever, i really like sleeping on an actual bed
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
as long as it's a mattress and not a futon, i'm okay with it being on the floor.
― kate78, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
We just bought a real bed w/ headboard (the first I have owned since I went to college and my parents cleared out my teenage bedroom!), but the delivery date is after we move and I'm loathe to move anything unnecessarily so we're leaving the metal bed-frame thinger behind and going back to mattress-on-the-floor for however long it takes them to deliver the bed.
I've been reading a lot of home decorating blogs in an attempt to not suck at decorating my home and I have noticed that putting the mattress right on the floor is kind of trendy again.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't care about trendy, i'm in my mid-30s. i like the elevation that a bed provides, it's a kinda regal feeling
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
another advantage: cats won't be able to hide underneath for sneakattack.
― kate78, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
my parents have had the same crummy mattress on the floor for my entire life (my first bed was a mattress on the floor too)not surprisingly, this has made me long for a really tall cushiony bedmattress on the floor with no box spring reminds me of the sad scene of duckie's bedroom
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
haha totally. duckie listening to the smiths, tossing cards into a hat.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
please please please let me get what i want
― kate78, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
mattress on the floor with no box spring reminds me of the sad scene of duckie's bedroom
i thought that was the coolest thing when i was a teenager, though!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
lol - Jenny - I was thinking the New Order "Age of Consent" topic - not the mattresses/hostel topic
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Me, toooooooooooo I tossed so many cards into hats. It's funny. I was supposed to identify with Andy, but she was so defined by the dudes around her, that instead I just desperately wanted to be Ducky.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
HA, sarahel, okay! Haha.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i tried for years to find a Ducky-like jacket! That was my vintage store holy grail for a while.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i never tossed a single card into a hat in my lifethat scene made me think that duckie might be homeless/a squatter/orphaned, but as a kid i always thought that when one character never had on-screen parents and the other one did (see also: some kind of wonderful)
i mean, i didn't REALLY think he was a street waif (he did go to school and try to do his homework), but the thought crossed my mind
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i was mildly curious as to duckie's home life situation. i didn't think he was a squatter but i did think maybe his parents weren't in the picture and he was renting a room somewhere.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
but if he was renting a room he probably would have to quit high school and get a job so no.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
but almost all of those 80s teen movies had minimal parental presence! My mom referred to the characters in those movies as "pod children" because they never seemed to have any parents, as if they were generated from pods like in Invasion of the Body Snatchers
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
but john hughes was invested in at least getting a representative moment of parents being awful onscreen. and harry dean stanton is fairly prominent in pretty in pink. kids bitch about their parents in john hughes movies at least. with duckie, it was like his entire life involved trailing andie around.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty in Pink means a lot to me, guys.
yeah, i just remember the distinction between the ones who did and the ones who didn't more than the overall absence of parents
watts - no visible parents, has no one to eat withkeith - dad is obsessed with his future, eats dinner with his family every night
duckie - throws cards angrily into a hat in his sad graffiti roomsam - unemployed pop cares enough to buy her a dress (albeit an ugly one)
lloyd - has a sister, but don't remember any parents (were they dead?)diane - affectionate overzealous dad
surely there are more, but those are the ones that i remember most clearly. it didn't help that in english class we were always reading about little picaresque street urchins.
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, but you only get a moment, then the parents conveniently disappear in order to further the plot. this bred years of resentment of my parents who were around a lot (like they never went on vacation, and my dad was a school teacher so he was home all day during the summer) and neither cool or awful.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
xp - i liked some kind of wonderful more than pretty in pink because keith's parents seemed more like my parents in terms of their regular presence in his life, plus Watts had a cool car and played drums - and of course, there was Duncan
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
shit, english AND spanish classi was under the impression that the world is very full of industrious orphaned waifs on a journey
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I always assumed that Duckie had parents but they were of the sort who did not care if their son spray painted his walls or slept on a mattress on the floor. So either super permissive hippies/artists or drunks. Or both. The Glass Castle by Duckie Dale.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah - lots of orphaned waifs in english class!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
that seems plausible
xp
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
There were parents all over the place in Sixteen Candles and Weird Science.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
those parents went on vacation!!!!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
god i LOVE weird science
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i totally had a Watts moment in my early 20s - where i dressed up in pseudo-chauffeur garb to pick up my best friend (who I had a huge crush on) and his gf at the airport.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
that's crazy sarahel!
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
he was also a painter, he later became my bf
― sarahel, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Did you play drums? Where were your parents during this time?
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link