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omg laurel!! i always forget to read this board but finally i remembered and whoa! congratulations :) i will now start the process of adjusting to the idea of you as really-not-single

planes/octaves/dimensions of existence (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i think i am just going to marry bulleit bourbon tbh but live in separate cities so i don't tire of it

planes/octaves/dimensions of existence (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

my two cents:
i was happy to change my name when i got married, but i have little attachment to my maiden name (i've had about 3 different ones, due to complicated family circumstances). my husband wasn't too concerned what i wanted to do, but it was my way of making a symbolic gesture towards the idea that we were about to start 'our' family together, and to start our lives together. i don't think everyone should do this, but as said above you should do what feels good for your situation.

oh, and we thought it would help our immigration case that i had changed my name, too.

the only thing i wish i'd done differently: i had no idea you could change any part of your name when you got married. it wasn't until the day, when we were signing the paperwork, and i didn't have any time to think about it. but now i wish i'd gotten rid of both my stupid bland middle names and moved my maiden name into the middle.

just1n3, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

also, laurel: i hadn't thought twice about my dad giving me away at our ceremony, when the moment rolled round i decided that i wanted to actually walk down the aisle with my husband, since that made more symbolic sense to me (and also bc we'd spent pretty much the whole day together beforehand). but my dad got all butthurt so we went with the original plan.

just1n3, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

and also: congratulations!!!

just1n3, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

whoa i missed this thread: congratulations!

(I don't quite like the 'it's traditional for the woman to take the man's name' thing purely cos on my dad's side of the family there are at least two cases i know of (in the 1800s) where the man had to take the woman's name or at least double-barrel it because hers was more prestigious or more fiercely held on to. Which makes it totally traditional among my people (i.e. the dirt poor but still snobbish english gentry). And my momz uses her maiden name for academic-y writing but my dad's name for other work. So I don't particularly think of it as a feminist thing, more... a question of what you want to do with the names life has given you. It is supremely unlikely that i get straight married, so it's all moot, but i doubt I'd even combine my name with someone else's, mostly cos it's 1. super rare and 2. already double-barrelled.)

control (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 May 2010 08:00 (fourteen years ago) link

watching padma lakshmi talk about endometriosis on the today show

Guns, Computer, The Internet (harbl), Thursday, 13 May 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Thx, everyone. It doesn't feel very real, or at least not like anything is different. But I've always had trouble feeling what I was "supposed" to feel about things (<--- why I left organized religion).

wasting time and money trying to change the weather (Laurel), Thursday, 13 May 2010 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

What was Padma saying?

wasting time and money trying to change the weather (Laurel), Thursday, 13 May 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Congratulations, Laurel!

tweedledee and tweedledem (suzy), Thursday, 13 May 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

she said you can have laparoscopic surgery every few years to remove the bits of uterus lining that seep into your abdominal cavity and it's like no big deal, sounds great

Guns, Computer, The Internet (harbl), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

gyaaaaaa

there's this hilary mantel interview where she talks about having endometriosis and people thinking it was just some psychosomatic hysteria* thing and putting her on antidepressants instead: http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2009/sep/12/hilary-mantel-booker-prize-interview

terror.

* after all, as we all know, hysteria is caused by the floating womb

control (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah she said she had undiagnosed pain for a long time before they figured it out. my mom had it so i guess that means i will have it :(

Guns, Computer, The Internet (harbl), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

oh hi, thread.

Laurel, hope you figure this out. I remember being totally struck by the feeling of WTF i'm meant to change my NAME?? when I got married - not so much any expectation, more that people do it all the time and yet to me it felt like this massive deal. It's your *name* ffs, one of the most personal things you have!
That said, I changed it to my husband's name even though changing it (to anything) felt weird. My old surname didn't fit too well with my first name and looking at it completely analytically I wanted to do the thing that would cause least hassle - I didn't want to be Mrs "Maiden name" because that felt like I was my mother (considered "Ms Maiden name" which I think would have been my second choice), and I didn't want my husb & I to have separate names just because I can't be bothered to correct the inevitable wrong names people will give us in the future, or work out what to call any future kids. It didn't seem like there was any perfect option - which sucks- but I quite like my married name now.

A friend of mine kept her maiden name professionally but her married name personally but ended up changing to the married name after a few years because of having a bebe (and general simplicity, I guess).

Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i had a lot of hassles travelling internationally, recently, bc my passport is still in my maiden name. my husband booked my tickets in my married name bc he figured the most important thing was being able to get back into the US (my gc has my married name). but now i realise it was all backwards: leaving the country and getting into plus exiting new zealand, they wanted to see that my passport matched my boarding pass; coming back into the US they just really only wanted to see my GC and it was totally fine that my passport was still in my old name. i carried my marriage cert with me, but it was all a real pain in the ass.

just1n3, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 06:34 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, I made the orzo thing mentioned upthread with a few additions and subtractions and it was tasty!

peacocks, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

gonna get my hair cut

Guns, Computer, The Internet (harbl), Friday, 21 May 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

aha http://bitchphd.blogspot.com/2010/05/against-name-change-polemic.html
Come on, we all know tradition sucks.
*hits submit, runs away*

harbl, Sunday, 23 May 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

why does someone always have to win here? i find that very annoying.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 23 May 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

The other thing about taking names, or not taking names, is how the end-product name scans. If it were to look clunky on the page I would not go for it, but if it was a cooler name I'd have some of that.

Other than that, I made cream cheese brownies today. Took the last batch into the fashion magazine so I wouldn't eat them all, and this batch is going to the farmers' market tomorrow (picnic after, also response to brownie throwdown). Do not want to blow up to Nigella Lawson size so will probably knock the high-cal recreation on the head.

Nigella is effing gorgeous!

peacocks, Friday, 4 June 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, but she can carry off the Rubenesque thing so much better than I ever could!

She can definitely carry it off, so I know what you're saying. She is so sure of herself, and naughty!

peacocks, Friday, 4 June 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

question: have any of you ever stopped taking hormonal bc (i was using nuva) and experienced near constant migraines after doing so?
is this normal? i don't want to be jacked up on hormones for the rest of my life, so that's why i stopped using it. i just need a break.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Friday, 4 June 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Estrogen levels have been linked to migraines, but studies have shown that Nuvaring users have the lowest blood-estrogen levels of any of the combined BC method users.

kate78, Friday, 4 June 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's part of why I was using it -- I get migraines every month anyway, so the low estrogen was helpful. I'm just wondering if this is going to stop at some point. I'll give it 2 weeks.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Friday, 4 June 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The nice thing about monophasic hormonal contraception is that you don't really have the fluctuating hormone levels of real life. On or off BC, you're still jacked up on hormones.

kate78, Friday, 4 June 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I get (possible sort of*) migraines on my week off the pill, which seems related. Was sort of wondering if the light oestrogen levels of the nuvaring wd give me fewer side-effects than I get from the pill - have tried a bunch of different types of pill and had a bunch of different bad reactions, but am keen to keep not ovulating as that hurts too. Ehh.

* tldr version of "possible sort of migraine" = "an aura-less one-sided headache which coincides with nausea and lasts for most of the day for about 4 days in a row but is a lot less severe than the things I have occasionally which I know are migraines because they come with aura" - instead of needing a day off in a dark room I can sit at work and pretend to be working with only occasional trips to lean my forehead against the cold wall of the bathroom and go "unhhhh", but I am probably not actually doing any work, just silently cursing the universe and striplighting and office noise all day

atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 4 June 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

re: surgery padma was talking about, my sister has had that multiple times

...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

how old was she when she first got the cysts?

harbl, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

or whatever they are

harbl, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

its not cysts, its uterine lining that comes out of your uterus and gets in the rest of your body

i dont know, mid-late 20s

...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah yeah i know, sorry

harbl, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm mid-late 20s :(

harbl, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I was mid twenties when I first started having weird pain. it really sucks. although it is genetic, nobody else in my fam has had it that I know of. I worry about roxy sometimes but hope she avoids this.

it is not cysts. it is just a tissue growing where it is not supposed to be - not really growing out of or seeping out of the uterus, just ALSO growing somewhere else in the body. the tissue swells causing pain and also wraps & spiderwebs around organs.

i had a few of those surgeries mentioned above and then had a presacral neurectomy where they cut the nerves at my spine that lead to pelvic pain. that one was the worst one to recover from because I had to relearn how to pee because the sensation to go felt different.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

my mom had it & had to have a hysterectomy. i am wondering if having kids has any influence on it either way but it seems like a lot of people have it who have never had kids.

harbl, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

because it requires estrogen to grow, and estrogen drops during pregnancy, having a baby can make it shrink into not existing anymore since your level drops for 9 months. all the drugs they have come up with so far that make your levels drop are too dangerous to take for longer than 3 months at a time. having a baby would most likely rid my body of the disease, which is very weird.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i am participating in a study right now to get better drugs/cure for this, btw

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

that is weird, my mom had 3 and still had it. i don't wanna have any. i'm just gonna cross my fingers

harbl, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I close friend of mine had a hysterectomy at 27 because her endo was so bad. She had even tried chemo to get rid of it but it was completely debilitating and that was the last resort.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah. The presacral things was a last resort for me. I would get stuck in the bathtub and not be able to stand up to get out.

harbl - did your mom have the endo before the kids or just after? was she relieved from pain during the pregnancy at least? that is sad!

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno i think it was after. the hysterectomy was when i was like 22, 19 years after 3rd kid. i could be wrong. fwiw i have not experienced any symptoms, not even bad cramps.

harbl, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i really have no idea. i just never want to have my uterus removed, it didn't seem like fun.

harbl, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

being newly single after a very long time, i've gotten plenty of dating/relationship advice, a lot of it conflicting. But a lot of it is of the "don't worry, it will just happen when you're least expecting it" variety. It seems like this type of thing is something that women get told a lot about various things...it just feels so passive.

sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Have personally told it to a lot of men too, tbh. Think this is more of a universal truth about trying to make your life run in directions that require the involvement of other people and/or chance opportunity.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

but compare it with what we're commonly told about looking for work - another example of something that requires the involvement of other people and/or chance opportunity? I'm not arguing the truth of it, because I obviously don't know.

sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

My advice, as someone who was habitually single until recently, is just to make your life totally awesome. If you already like the life you have, it will be more fun every day AND make you a more interesting/engaged and happier person, which is a great set-up for potentially meeting and/or being attractive to another interesting and happy person.

Also, and you must already know this from yr recent events, never underestimate the pleasure of going to bed when YOU are tired, watching a movie of your choosing that no one criticizes, not worrying about food until YOU are hungry, getting up when you wake up and leaving the house at your leisure and not returning until you run out of fun things to do, and other delights of the single life.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

being not-single sounds shitty

Hans-Jörg Butt (harbl), Monday, 21 June 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

being not-single has a lot of enjoyable aspects

sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

it's just interesting how advice/perspectives on love and romance differ from other things in American culture. But maybe not?

So far the most pragmatic advice I've gotten was the suggestion that I invest in a quality eyelash curler so that my eyes will appear larger and more "bambi-like"

sarahel, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link


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