vaporwave and deriative products

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http://beerontherug.bandcamp.com/album/floral-shoppe

have been listening for the last couple of minutes... and maybe i'm too eager but now i'm thinking :finally. a break from my boredom after a few months of going nowhere.

Sébastien, Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

i'll just paste a bunch of links i copied from a thread on 4chan before it expired, makes it easier to check out later

vaporwave goes hard as fuck . love this stuff .
http://ailanthusrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/soft-season
http://www.sunsetcorp.org/
http://internetclubdotcom.angelfire.com/
http://vektroid.bandcamp.com/

http://soundcloud.com/yungyachtmusic/recording-4-17-12-5-54-45-pm

http://crystalmagic.bandcamp.com/album/high-fashion-mood-music/

http://www.mumu.io/player/vaporwave

It's appropriating the globalised capitalist commodified aesthetic (specifically of 1980s/90s East Asia, Japan) to mock the vacuity of its art products in order to create a criterion of the kind of society we live in today (the post-internet late capitalist bazaar)

http://beerontherug.bandcamp.com/

Post-internet is a term that is used to describe a new media art scene active in the past few years. The most important portal for such is Tumblr. These circles spawn visual new media art trash and microgenres like hypnagogic pop, seapunk and vaporwave, which is what you're listening to. Vaporwave is an aesthetic built around corporate culture glorification, 80's/90's early internet era and exploring the uncanny.

It's all very post-modern by nature, and is based on exploring alternative mediums and surreal ways of expression. Substance and the end result are valued over values like composition and production.

Sébastien, Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

Post-internet

wolves lacan, Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

im taking credit for coining the term 'vaporwave' with this tweet, retweeted by nullsleep who is a well-known player in the new media scene

Anime Mann (diamonddave85), Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

i'll just paste a bunch of links i copied from a thread on 4chan

lol

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

uh who is to blame for this oneohtrix ferraro such a shame

wolves lacan, Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

post-lacan

am0n, Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

(don't be afraid of 4chan) Sébastien is going to get you fired with (some of) those links (post more)

wolves lacan, Thursday, 8 November 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

here i go again, just dumping stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjhHPzK6enE
http://i.imgur.com/mhOOtlz.png

So what makes vaporwave, slowed vocal, pop capitalism muzak, something else?
As there's a lot of pretty much identical music being produced. Then a bunch of stuff that sounds nothing like the rest but is kind of vaporwave-ish.

*incoming dump codename GYROS*

Chuck Person's Eccojams
Farside Virtual
Fuji Grid TV
Replica
Floral Shoppe
1976 DISKO
Fashion Island

http://i.imgur.com/8rwuXEH.jpg

virtual help desk

i thought vape wave was done with...
metro-ko took it's place in like septemberish?
metro > vape all day every day bay bay

I wouldn't be making metro-ko were it not for Chuck Person and New Dreams LTD.
http://i.imgur.com/f9z4ige.png

this and mediafired - Pathway Through Whatever are my favs of the whole vaporwave/eccojams thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlug8QDIDZg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qg-LAbsURY

http://i.imgur.com/QhosKCl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QSGJbgA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pf1cJ3i.jpg

>tfw no blank banshee acid

Sébastien, Sunday, 27 January 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

wack

the late great, Sunday, 27 January 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

it's part of it, yes.
http://www.mediafire.com/vaporwave

Sébastien, Sunday, 27 January 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

chuck person eccojams are legit

pull up to the shrink with my feelings missing (m bison), Sunday, 27 January 2013 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure exactly what is going on here but i like it

ramblin' evil mushroom (clouds), Sunday, 27 January 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

http://f0.bcbits.com/z/37/14/3714586732-1.gif

Mordy, Sunday, 27 January 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure exactly what is going on here but i like it

― ramblin' evil mushroom (clouds), Sunday, 27 January 2013 04:21 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why can't he just sing normally, unmannered and natural? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 January 2013 08:15 (eleven years ago) link

i cd listen to this stuff for days, don't know if this is indicative of a problem with me or what.

why can't he just sing normally, unmannered and natural? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 January 2013 08:17 (eleven years ago) link

Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

Mordy, Sunday, 27 January 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

feels like cyber witch house

乒乓, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

less gothy witch house

乒乓, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

ah there it is . http://metrophone.bandcamp.com/
right now i know nothing about it

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

sebastien, do u just listen or do u also make music?

Mordy, Monday, 28 January 2013 04:52 (eleven years ago) link

this juche album is super pretty

Mordy, Monday, 28 January 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

i am not making music right now. haven't recorded anything since, hehe, sounds weird since it was another tech time and etc but i gave up recording stuff after reading a review of Sparklehorse – Good Morning Spider , in a time when reading was listening for broke ppl. ehhe. it had nothing to do with what i was doing, eh, it was more like ariel pink's impression of charlotte gainsbourg weird stuff. i was disturbing myself. before that i had a few dat of intl. quality noise tracks still lying somewhere. plus i have a show of late gov.alpha in there too. lots of space on those DATs. i made some images recently in a pains style, and have downloaded audacity so who knows.

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

DATs. might as well say i will never listen to that stuff again and it's ok.
listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=guZueuki4-Q linked upthread. missed it first time around, nice vid

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:51 (eleven years ago) link

meshes of the afternoon meets overeager sales pitch

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:54 (eleven years ago) link

a lot of the vapor stuff feels so transient and inconsequential which i imagine is by design but leaves me feeling very unfulfilled after long listening session - like i've just been sold a timeshare that doesn't exist

Mordy, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, and if some artists feels more "hook" generous" it must be a particularity from the listener's point of view but overall you are right. it's a monotonous rumination that is timely and i particularly like that it has a certain rebellious philosophy at heart. it is with self-awareness that it creates a space where certain concepts can be made to be used for the next "genre".

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 06:14 (eleven years ago) link

i must add : i am interested in listener generated perceptions of hooks and also i am drunk : apology of an unfaithful culture consumerist

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 06:27 (eleven years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/yorkmorgan/zoe
http://i.imgur.com/cL3vG26.jpg
fuck off with this forced bullshit
http://metro-ko.tumblr.com/#41223466804

Christ this is so pretentious.

You guys notice shit like Vaporwave,
Chillwave, Seapunk and other stupid trends that come and go and try to hop on by making up some bullshit new genre.

There are already dozens of bands that make droney type music that fits this "aesthetic", but you faggots don't even care about that. It's like Witch House, album art, pretentious naming and the "lifestyle" of the music comes before the actual music.

You are no better than those kids who start a band and don't actually write any songs.

and yeah, this is gimmicky as fuck, but there's definitely potential in the music if people stop rushing effortless shit out.

The problem is that the music is an afterthought. The people who post in these threads clearly just want to be relevant and if the genre did get big (and then die out very quickly like all these genres) they could say "I was part of that". Music should be made because you feel right making it and natural, not because you have to fit into some requirements that some guy on /mu/ told you it has to be.

That is true, but I imagine people will calm down and spend more time and effort on their tracks soon. Just here in the beginning people are eager to try, and want to get stuff out as quickly as possible.

*********
nobody even knows what metro-ko is

right now it's just "vaguely city feeling electronic music"
****************** That made me think of a thread i have saw recently-ish, that i thought i had saved, about city driving electronic music feel or something... basically it was about techno. can't find the keywords to find it. ilx enhanced suite.

the way i see it, the genre will die out as fast as vaporwave does unless somebody makes an extremely creative well thought out and interesting album that actually evokes emotion. i'd actually be interested in hearing something like that.

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 08:03 (eleven years ago) link

The problem is that the music is an afterthought.

mistaking the problem for a feature

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 January 2013 09:16 (eleven years ago) link

wd do a "T/S vaporwave vs influential albums" thread but imaginary dichotomies

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 January 2013 09:18 (eleven years ago) link

hat made me think of a thread i have saw recently-ish, that i thought i had saved, about city driving electronic music feel or something... basically it was about techno.

this one?
Recommend me some FUTURISTIC, METROPOLITAN TECHNO

ramblin' evil mushroom (clouds), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

less gothy witch house

What is the point of less gothy witch house?

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

says the goth

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:07 (eleven years ago) link

less gothy witchhouse = house?

crüt, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 08:16 (eleven years ago) link

clouds, that's the one. thank you!

Sébastien, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

ya this is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCt_VV4_Nf4

ramblin' evil mushroom (clouds), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

vaporwave deriviative product very early in it's alpha phase : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe pickling. proof of concept no.1 named "low hanging fruits" : "It's Gonna Rain"-esque minimalist musical juxtaposition of beatles hits rip-off by "exotic" bands with the original real deal.

proof of concept no.2 : same recipe as no.1 but applied to ccr bad moon rising and les cyniques ah si j'étais milionnaire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZgV0_746Ng
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Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

ah si j'aurais de l'argent / I hear hurricanes ablowing

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/mjruQWN.jpg

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 05:10 (eleven years ago) link

how is this going to work unless you are from the cultural cringe culture and know which part of that culture to recontextualise?

>>
Anon

well yeah, where are you my people?

but seriously, i know this thread is somewhat of a shot in the dark but the innenets is known to be a hub of many cultures . who knows, maybe you are a native french speaker and so am i and here we are communicating in english because it is the thing that is expected of us do in this context.

that said, it is possible that you have lights to shine on what is happening in other cultures than your own: i bet most post-colonial studies was written by straight white guys who speaks english badot dot dot

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ky5ClIjL8
you know what i am talking about so let's make an exhaustive list right here

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link

ok now im on another trip i rather like that honest cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EC9vgUONE

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 07:20 (eleven years ago) link

"honest" ... made me think of em "yéyé" again, that i still don't know that much about; i think they were received a notch above novelty songs, like a therapeutical gesture, most of the pop not knowing english it must have been a nice way to engage with that "collective energy"/ marketing and release it in a way ; in a jokey way or whatever

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 07:47 (eleven years ago) link

visualizing gainsbourg ironically unnerving the crowd to get em to toss some cash money on the stage and picking it all up very much unironically because he was poor, and mumbling to himself "so this is what they like ... i'll give em some more, then."

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 08:03 (eleven years ago) link

increasingly enjoying these alternate universe projections of my own teenagerhood by people who were babies at the time.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 February 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

There's so much of this stuff (the music that the thread was originally about, not the other types of derivativeness immediately above) that it's hard to know what's noteworthy, but I like this comp: http://fortune500.bandcamp.com/album/the-music-of-the-now-age

Dan I., Thursday, 14 March 2013 05:57 (eleven years ago) link

I support brimstead's vapor chaos initiative

brisk money (lukas), Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGvLLEZQAA

calstars, Sunday, 8 May 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/v1ediLA.jpg

calstars, Saturday, 14 May 2022 10:08 (one year ago) link

So no one going to E3?

calstars, Thursday, 19 May 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

what are you talking about?

brisk money (lukas), Thursday, 19 May 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

presumably Electronicon, I'd go but I don't wanna travel to NYC

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

Excellent guide to the various guides

https://sunbleach.net/2017/12/02/feature-guide-to-vaporwave-guides/

calstars, Saturday, 21 May 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

missing that vaporwave guide from the guy in the Beach Boys (not kidding)

brisk money (lukas), Sunday, 22 May 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

Maybe you mean Mickey dolenz/ the monkees?

calstars, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

uh oh

brisk money (lukas), Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

https://noproblematapes.bandcamp.com/track/--339

calstars, Monday, 23 May 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

Telepath announced !

https://i.imgur.com/yJ4GW5S.jpg

calstars, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone going to Econ 3?

calstars, Friday, 5 August 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

been getting into "News at 11" by 猫 シ Corp lately. it's a 9/11 themed album, albeit in the most vaporwavey way possible - most of the samples are from the news broadcasts that aired right before the first plane hit. the McDonalds commercial you hear in it was apparently the one that was cut in to. but you never hear 9/11 referenced, so it's either an alternate universe where 9/11 never happened, or one where it did but you just don't know it yet. it's a pretty cool achievement, there's nothing particularly creepy about any of this but in context it's very unsettling. I mean America as we knew it had just ended

frogbs, Sunday, 25 September 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

Corp markets the heck out of that album now and then (picture discs!) and it’s always rubbed me the wrong way that he makes money off such a sad day.

In other Vapor news this weekend the nmesh / dream catalogue fight over royalty payments got really hot really fast

calstars, Sunday, 25 September 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

Like, I don’t need to relive 9/11 through an elaborate prism of Vapor. Corp is Dutch I think so there’s something to be said for the “outsider” perspective and presentation. But yeah personally not something I would ever put on as entertainment.

calstars, Sunday, 25 September 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

Not judging anyone who enjoys it of course. Always happy to have some Vapor discourse on ilx

calstars, Sunday, 25 September 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

if it's exploitative it's at least exploitative in a pretty interesting way, given it never really references the thing it's exploiting. I'm not sure if I particularly "enjoy" it but given the events of the last 5-6 years and knowing how it all kinda spurned from what happened there it does really hit a certain spot

dunno anything about the Nmesh/Dream Catalogue thing but Nmesh always seemed like a stand up dude and the guy who runs DC is kind of a dick

frogbs, Sunday, 25 September 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

enjoying this

https://fortune500.bandcamp.com/album/the-music-of-the-now-age-iv

nxd, Saturday, 1 October 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

Listening to it right now! Lol

calstars, Saturday, 1 October 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

wow neat, first fortune500 release since 2014? Wonder if these are all “old” tracks

brimstead, Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

They’re not

calstars, Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

Nxd are you on insta / twitter?

calstars, Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

am on insta but dont really use it much tbh
will dm anyway x

nxd, Sunday, 2 October 2022 12:05 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2cWur60ozU

David Crosby, seminal vaporwave vocalist

calstars, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://i.imgur.com/pfsNTTs.jpg

Please let me unfollow 100 pct whatever

calstars, Saturday, 26 November 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

nico niquo is back!

https://orangemilkrecords.bandcamp.com/album/esperanto

just one track at the moment, album drops april 14

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 09:45 (one year ago) link

couple of new nmesh tracks too

https://nmesh.bandcamp.com/album/on-the-telephone-preferred-stock

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

speaking of Nmesh here's 34 minute video featuring a bunch of the samples from Dream Sequins. wonder if whoever made this was in contact with him cuz otherwise idk how you'd manage to find all this stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWPsr8hP8_s

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link

A lot of fans spend time tracking down samples. Check out the deciphering lists on RYM.

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/LilLiam/deciphering-%E7%8C%AB-%E3%82%B7-corp/

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/LilLiam/deciphering-t-e-l-e-p-a-t-h/

calstars, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link

the stuff that appears on an album or a movie I understand, it's the ones that sample 40 year old commercials & interviews that probably only aired once that really impress me. one would think some of that stuff was just lost to time forever.

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

nice work!

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 07:09 (one year ago) link

always enjoy these finds

nxd, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHCjkEJ4CU

calstars, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:31 (one year ago) link

well that's a jam

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 08:07 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

whoa, randomly a new Computer Dreams release on Fortune 500

https://fortune500.bandcamp.com/album/time-slips

brimstead, Monday, 5 June 2023 17:28 (ten months ago) link

I love it when legends return

calstars, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:36 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9URZgAqeqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgfKjUX1EHQ

Who did it better?

calstars, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:51 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

found the latest blank banshee record a bit meh - maybe a bit too idm for me
otoh new dan mason album is sounding great

nxd, Friday, 20 October 2023 09:29 (five months ago) link

Dan Mason is about as “vaporwave” as Charli XCX at this point. He uses katakana next to his name tho so…

calstars, Friday, 20 October 2023 12:03 (five months ago) link

oooh yeah new Dan Mason is cool, maybe the artwork is leading me but it definitely scratches a very specific itch

think 'vaporwave' as we know it is dead but it has splintered off into a half-dozen subgenres all of which I think are way more interesting than like, Chuck Person and Floral Shoppe

frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 14:17 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMzqaNS5sn0

The OG returns

calstars, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:33 (five months ago) link

A.S.L. 2050 : SNOW IN WONDERLAND

Taken from Album Yann Tomita “Music For Living Sound” CD-ROM (excerpt /unreleased clip) 1998

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0dgbkFFfDo

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:43 (five months ago) link

Sounds like a new avalanches single, just needs some dumb beat behind it

calstars, Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:55 (five months ago) link

hahaha ouch!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, 4 November 2023 19:29 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

https://exotapes.bandcamp.com/album/div-s-paradise

Thank you bandcamp daily for alerting me to a second mediafired album I didn’t know existed

calstars, Sunday, 18 February 2024 13:44 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...
one month passes...

https://computer-gaze.bandcamp.com/album/dream-recovery

this is still the best signalwave album

brimstead, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:01 (five days ago) link

I don't f with signalwave much but telepath's pink album would be my answer: https://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/--11

calstars, Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:03 (five days ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/g8PJL03.jpeg

calstars, Saturday, 13 April 2024 04:11 (three days ago) link


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