Has anybody read this new book about COUM Transmissions & Throbbing Gristle?

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http://www.amazon.com/Wreckers-Civilisation-Simon-Ford/dp/1901033600/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196892273&sr=1-1

Looks pretty interesting, lots of pre-TG info, some nice pictures, but $30 is a lot to pay for a paperback that isn't designed particularly well (too much empty space on pages IMHO.)

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, i guess it's not old.
i just saw it at the bookshop today for the first time, and they had it out onna table so i figgered...

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, i guess it's not old.new.

i am a idiot

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

cosey <3 <3 <3

chaki, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

it's pretty good, esp. for descriptions of the COUM performances and interband drama.

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe the library has it.

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

does the book have more pics like that of cosey?

get bent, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

are there boots of the COUM stuff available at all?

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost on the book

It's awesome, very recommended, the early life histories about each band member before Coum even coalesces are really interesting, and the scope of the thing is really what makes it work.

Now if only someone would write a booklength study of a classic TG album . . .

Drew Daniel, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Buy this book with Brian Eno's Another Green World (33 1/3) by Geeta Dayal today!

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

COUM was less musical than straight(?) performance art.

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

isn't her book not done?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

you're her IM pal, why don't you ask her?

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

also, what bout COUM video boots?

ian, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

AWSM BOOK, SD OTM RE: COUM STUFF.

ddb, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I work with this awesome dude who used to be on nodding terms with Gen when they were still doing performances in Hull. Some of the places they performed are unlikely, to say the least.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

http://myspace.com/daisrecords

DR001 - Early Worm - LP
RELEASE DATE: Winter 2007/2008
Recorded in a roofspace attic during the summer of 1968 by Genesis P-Orridge and friends, and later pressed to a SINGLE vinyl record in 1969, this recording is probably the most documented (yet never heard) missing piece of musical history in the legacy of Coum Transmissions, Throbbing Gristle, and Psychic TV. We are proud to announce this as our first release, remastered and preserved in a limited vinyl pressing, with liner notes written by Genesis he/r-self.

it's a pretty good book, ian.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link

daaaaaaamn

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.cosey-fanni-tutti.com

Edward III, Thursday, 6 December 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah good book, buy

$30 is like 50p or something isn't it?

DG, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

'RECTUM AS INNER SPACE' (16mm, colour). Film by Coum.

am0n, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

only place i ever see this is the MOCA/MOMA/LACMA bookstore

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 6 December 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

http://polyptique.maisonpop.fr/images_users/coum.gif

sexyDancer, Thursday, 6 December 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i rather doubt that chris burden did that

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris_carter_/2568425363/

ahhahahah wau

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link

!!!!!!!!!!

latebloomer, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

that is awesome

latebloomer, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

hamburger man

am0n, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

he takes some nice pics

bnw, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

his current TG set-up is 80% KAOS pads???

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

ableton + kaos pads

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

and the lame little kaos pads sans midi sync! I think they might use the gristleizer too: http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/gristleizer/

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

this is ok as a potted history, but the "and then this happened. and then this happened. and then this happened" structure plus university level dissertation analysis grated after a while. there was little character examination other than of gen, for example, chris carter's supposed on-stage self-mutilation during the early performances is barely hinted at, something that is interesting to me at least considering he appeared so reserved and so removed from the coum side of tg. was generally way too biased towards gen's point of view, even though the author makes it clear how unreliable his perspective was, and how often the other member's of the band disagreed with it. would've liked more anecdotes about beck road and the death factory, especially about monte cazazza. the story about them forcing their gypsy neighbours out was pretty funny. it was a cool book i 'spose as it made me want to listen to everything ever released by tg.

rio (r1o natsume), Saturday, 14 March 2009 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

you know the noize board is over when people can't even be bothered to post to tg threads

rio (r1o natsume), Sunday, 15 March 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

time to make this the I Love Fitness board

WmC, Sunday, 15 March 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, we talked about this years ago. anyway, still haven't read the book, want it badly, but not letting myself buy it until i finish drew's book. which is, most appropriately, my toilet reading. but i'm finding drew's really slow going.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i have a problem with density of ideas. like the other night i read one chapter of a book i got on sun ra, and there was one paragraph where he explained that he called it the ARKestra not just because of the reference to the biblical ark but also out of homage to birmingham, alabama, where southerners just pronounce "orchestra" as "aaaark estra", and that he'd gotten the idea after suggesting that chicago's birdland club - which was being sued by new york's birdland - just change their name to "budland", since it would be pronounced the same by chicago's blacks as "birdland".

and i had to put the book down and go ponder that paragraph for about two days. i swear, my brain is tiny and/or easily boggled by ideas.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

My copy of this got severely nibbled (along with numerous albums) by my sister's rabbit (now deceased - rabbit not sister)

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:22 (ten years ago) link

i've got a little tin
to put my dead bunny in

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:32 (ten years ago) link

I noticed the other day that this is still in my amazon wishlist and it's out of print again

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, 3 October 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

god damn, this thing is like $200 on Amazon. Anybody got a spare copy they wanna sell me?

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

wish i had one too. is that 'englands hidden reverse' book any good

am0n, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

yes, but also overpriced. can send u a pdf of that if u webmail me.

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

will do, thx!

am0n, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

England's Hidden Reverse has been updated a bit and is getting reissued soon.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

damn it, I was hoping this was bumped due to a reprint

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

Seeing COUM's after cease to exist along with other films of the era in a few mins, + Chris & cosey Q&A. Psyched

the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

Uh, what? Where??!?

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Film festival here, there's a whole strand on "industrial music & culture". It was really good, Chris & Cosey couldn't make it tho so they showed an extra film instead (imagining October by jarman)

the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

reissue?!?!?

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the late great, Thursday, 15 October 2015 08:11 (eight years ago) link

ty, will keep my eyes peeled

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link

just set a new world record for reading post -> clicking buy on amazon

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

"These people are the wreckers of civilisation" - Nicholas Fairbairn

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am0n, Thursday, 15 October 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

wowwowowow yay!

brimstead, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

over the last few days have been making my way through the bfi collection of bruce lacey films and ephemera and was really struck by a video piece from the early eighties (breaking away to come together) with a lacey soundtrack employing primitive synths and treated voices that immediately brought to mind tg & was left wondering if he might have had any connection with them at some point... so, after a little checking discovered one of his sons was actually involved with coum transmissions (apparently instrumental in introducing chris carter to the others) and lacey himself was caretaker of the art space that would later become the death factory. dunno if any of this is mentioned in wreckers of civilisation, but i find this kind of thing fascinating!

no lime tangier, Monday, 9 November 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

that is indeed fascinating, good catch. I'm really excited that this book has apparently been repressed.

sleeve, Monday, 9 November 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link


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