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I am finishing Of Human Bondage and then I will either read Jinmy Burns' book on FC Barcelona or Neil Baldwin's "Man Ray-American Artist".
I mostly read non-fiction.
What about you?

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i am reading Julio Cortazar: Blow Up and Other Stories

and i was reading Wuthering Heights until Catherine died. after that, i felt there was no point.

killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link

oh

also I like comics. I am getting through Tezuka's Phoenix saga and thinking of reading all my Queen And Country s again.

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link

"oh"

killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

william kennedy, "the ink truck"
w.g. sebald, "vertigo"

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

christian wolmar - on the wrong line: how ideology and incompetence wrecked britains' railways

terry lennox. (gareth), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

liner notes

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

"oh"

sorry, this wasn't directed at you, killy! It was just a general oh.

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

terry, that sounds good. I still haven't read Leadville.

ad I'd like to read this

http://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/catalogue/images/large/00000006.jpg

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

currently:
david lodge, "conciousness and the novel"
william gaddis, "carpenter's gothic"

recently:
william manchester, "a world lit only by fire" (you should read this, adam, if you haven't already.)
joshua shenk, "lincoln's melancholy"

i really want to read "eichmann in jerusalem" sometime soon.

xpost to stormy d: what liner notes have you been reading? lately i been reading coley's "black woman" notes, the back of terry riley's "shri camel" and also trying to get a grasp on the (Spanish) notes to the first Color Humano LP.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, what are the best liner notes?

I really enjoyed the notes to Jackson C. Frank's "Blues Run The Game". Almost farcical tragedy!

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Raymond Carver - Will You Please Be Quiet Please?
Haruki Murakami - The Elephant Vanishes

I read these two together as there is some obvious debt to Carver in Murakami's work (Murakami commercially translated much of Carver from English to Japanese), it becomes even more evident in his short stories. The Elephant Vanishes is intriguing as it balances two radically different translators against each other (smooth, street-versed Alfred Birnbaum vs. stuffy, academic Jay Rubin). Rubin's translations come off like your terribly out-of-touch uncle's thoughts on pop culture whereas Birnbaum's voice seems truer to Murakami's. Additionally, the first chapter of The Elephant Vanishes is the first chapter of Murakami's epic The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle... translated by Birnbaum (the novel was translated by Rubin). It offers a short teaser of how much stronger the book's impact may have been had Birnbaum done the translation.

Other than some of the Fantastic-ness of The Elephant Vanishes stories, I found that Murakami's familiar themes of loss of companionship and frequent drinking paralleled much of what Carver mined in his.

What else... Joseph Conrad's Heart Of Darkness (found on the sidewalk around the corner from me). Just started, I last read this 17 years ago.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

books currently checked out from the libarry:

jimbo in purgatory ...gary panter
a new kind of christian book 1... brian mclaren
the last word and the word after that book 3... brian mclaren
god's politics... wallis
chris crawford on game design... chris c.
everything bad is good for you... steven johnson
the areas of my expertise... james hodges
hitchhikers guide vol 1-5 (on 3)... d. adams

lot of churchy crap right now... need to divert shortly.
m.

msp (mspa), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I WAS reading the Moor's Last Sigh until I LOST it.


I raced through Fast Food Nation on the train back from NYC to Chi (behind the times, I know).

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Raymond Carver too.

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Speaking of actual NOISE BOOKS,

ha anyone read that "Wreckers Of Civilization"?

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link

rip it up and start it again by simone reynolds-wrap (yeah i know)
at the mountains of madness by hp lovecraft
lynch on lynch
the plausibility of life by evolutionary biologist dudes i forget the name of
v for vendetta (never read it before!)
volume 1 of that hitler biography by ian kershaw

latebloomer: keeping his reputation for an intense on-set presence (latebloomer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost: it's great. lotsa info on COUM and GPO's performance art, gossip.

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I knew that senseiDancer would have read it!

you are TRULY noise.

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Where can I got cheap copy?

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

ian it was mostly an expression of the fact that I haven't had much time for books .. which makes me sad.. but yeah off the top of my head, recently I really enjoyed Billy Vera's liner notes to the Complete Allen Toussaint on Warners set, and the liners to the Rev Charlie Jackson's God's Got It -- which are really nice and in-depth.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Winesburg, Ohio.

Boy. Seems like all I did for a spell there was drink gin-and-tonics and read the entirety of Raymond Carver's catalogue.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

watchout, it's a gateway drug. after you read it, you'll want to check up on TG24, like, ooh the gig where Genisis tries to kill himself with pills cuz Cosey left him for Chris.

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i skimmed through a copy of "wreckers of civilization" at the ica bookshop.

irony.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I like that bookshop.

Oh you said "bookshop"!

uh oh

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

what?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

don't you say bookstore?

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

not necessarily, and esp. not in the case of a store inside a museum.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, I didn't know that.

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

it's bookstore, dude. quit denyin'

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I read Wreckers of Civilization about five years ago? I checked it out from the Goldsmiths' library.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Just started David Foster Wallace's Consider the Lobster (thanks to Laurel, who sent it to me!)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Goldsmith's? in LONDON?

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

(I'm just kidding)

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

it's bookstore, dude. quit denyin'

no it's technically a giftshop but who buys the junk in there that ain't books?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

...did anyone else read that piece in Harper's by the dude that invented the "flash mob?"


xpost call it a giftshop then! also: i have bought a pen before, but that's because I needed one.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Just started Household words : bloomers, sucker, bombshell, scab, nigger, cyber / Stephanie A. Smith.
Read most of Consider the Lobster. The porn article and the title article were my favorites. Some of it just didn't interest me at all, like the big Grammar Usage and the new dictionary thing, and I'd already the McCain thing in Rolling Stone.
Too many books in the library.

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost i read that

killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Currently reading:

Bright Lights, Dark Shadows: The Real Story of ABBA

from the library:
Patricia Campbell Hearst - Every Secret Thing
Emily Wortis Leider - Becoming Mae West
Donald Spoto - Lenya
Simon Winchester - A Crack on the Edge of the World: America and the Great California Earthquake of 1906

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

no it's technically a giftshop but who buys the junk in there that ain't books?

me!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i died a little bit inside.

xpost

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Patricia Campbell Hearst - Every Secret Thing
Emily Wortis Leider - Becoming Mae West
Donald Spoto - Lenya
Simon Winchester - A Crack on the Edge of the World: America and the Great California Earthquake of 1906

three of these are on my list!

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

adam, in lovely SARF LAHNDAN

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been threatening to pierce Jung's Mysterium Coniunctionis but really haven't been reading much outside Grant Morrison comics and issues of MOJO.

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

gbx - actually, i just skimmed the article. usually i read the notebook, the index, the puzzle and forget that i haven't read the rest of it.

killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

How is that ABBA bio?

I am reading:

Varese - a looking glass diary, Louise Varese
Electric Sound - Joel Chadabe

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I learned that Frida recorded a cover of "Life on Mars" for one of her solo albums.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

killy - it was a good read, actually. Pretty funny, well-written, etc. Just made me embarassed to be even remotely linked to "hipster scum" in even the loosest way. Which was the point, I think.


hey cunningh4m: is that DFW book any good? I read A Supposedly Fun Thing and that it was outstanding (esp the titular essay).

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i have wanted to have a noise dude book thread but i suspected it would die quickly? i'm glad. thanks adamrl.

i have just started:
albert camus - the plague
frantz fanon - the wretched of the earth

i have just recently finished:
sigmund freud - 3 essays on the theory of sexuality
slavoj zizek - welcome to the desert of the real
stewart home - assault on culture

wreckers of civilization sounds good

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

we're avid penny pressers. (re: giftshops.)

m.

msp (mspa), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

tara rodgers - pink noises, women on electronic music and sound
elizabeth hinkle-turner - women composers and music technology in the united states
christopher small - musicking (rereading)
christopher r. weingarten - it takes a nation of millions to hold us back
slavok zizek - in defense of lost causes
juji ito - uzumaki

Milton Parker, Monday, 19 April 2010 06:45 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

i feel like i am starting to be a reader again

harbl, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

what are u reading

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

Henry James - The Tragic Muse
Johnny Rogan - Morrissey
David O Stewart - Impeached (about Andrew Johnson's impeachment)

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

oh oops
i started "i am a fugitive from a georgia chain gang!" by robert e. burns because i've had it for a while

harbl, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:58 (twelve years ago) link

how fun is it to read books with exclamation points in the title!

peacocks, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Picked up Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and I am excited.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 27 May 2010 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

bill c. malone - country music u.s.a.
glenn & henry comic
selected letters of john fante

ian, Thursday, 27 May 2010 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

xpost. my dad told me heinlein's 'stranger in a strange land' was his favorite book. i was gonna pick it up for my last vacation, but i wasn't really feeling it from scanning it in the store, and it was kinda too big to bring on vacay.

i ended up reading the Road, which i loved. is the movie terrible? charlize? ugh.

jaxon, Thursday, 27 May 2010 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

I loved Stranger in a Strange Land.
Huge influence on all that hippy shit, of course.
There's a reference to it in David Crosby's "Triad"

Trip Maker, Thursday, 27 May 2010 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Suppose I should note that I mostly love classic sci-fi.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 27 May 2010 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

i'll eventually read it i think. i've never really done too much sci-fi

jaxon, Thursday, 27 May 2010 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

bill c. malone - country music u.s.a.

ian if you come across a copy of John Morthland's Best of Country Music, snap it up

you're either part of the problem or part of the solution (m coleman), Thursday, 27 May 2010 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

will do.

ian, Thursday, 27 May 2010 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

how fun is it to read books with exclamation points in the title!

― peacocks, Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:55 AM (Yesterday)

otm, it's really good so far too

harbl, Saturday, 29 May 2010 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

gonna try to see if the library has a circulating copy of this http://www.amazon.com/Monument-Good-Intentions-Maryland-Penitentiary/dp/0938420674?&camp=212361 because i love the title and it seems right up my alley

harbl, Saturday, 29 May 2010 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

not that it has an exclamation point in the title but i will probably start reading it soon, for the record

harbl, Saturday, 29 May 2010 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

let the great world spin

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 May 2010 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

i'm really starting to think i need to schedule some sit down novel reading time.

forksclovetofu, Saturday, 29 May 2010 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

i am a fugitive...! is great and only took me like 2 days to read. i am reading "the real eve: modern man's journey out of africa" now

harbl, Monday, 31 May 2010 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

mccarthy - suttree
journals of john cheever

ian, Saturday, 5 June 2010 03:53 (twelve years ago) link

Jim Thompson - The Killer Inside Me

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 5 June 2010 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

fawwaz traboulsi - a history of modern lebanon

cozen, Saturday, 5 June 2010 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

peter ackroyd's blake biography

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Saturday, 5 June 2010 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

shoot mama i just finished ben marcus' "the flame alphabet" oh, such a thing of giddy delight. he's bolted his dusty post-apoc quay bros jungian schtick onto the story of "chitty chitty bang bang". downright cheesy james patterson style in places, but he has such an exquisite turn of phrase, i'll forgive him that. i was down on the guy for a while cos i failed to reread "notable american women" ( sorta one trick pony of a book ), discovered stanley crawford's "some instructions.." which with a little (actually, a whole shitload of) added obfuscatory pseudo-symbology was effectively "the age of wire and string", and i heard an interview with him where he said "yeah i'd liken my work to kafka's" (a disappointingly naive, self regarding and coattailsy thing to say ), but he has now redeemed himself. the book is grand.

iglu ferrignu, Thursday, 26 January 2012 10:23 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

been on a binge recently. can't get enough & gf been away from home, so:
stanley crawford - gascoyne: ropey sub terry southern 60's "satire";
stanley crawford - travel notes - goofy monty python meets hunter thompson, still a disappointment compared to "unguentine"/ "some instructions..." which are divine.
stanley crawford - mayordomo - neat n sweet non fiction about stewarding an irrigation ditch.
jon ronson - the psychopath test - did this in 5 hours.
conan doyle - hound of the baskervilles. loved it.
thomas bernhard "the loser" (auf englisch, schande!)tiresome in that he always writes about self-appointed superior ponce so sympathetically, but being a self-appointed superior ponce, ich liebte das, natürlich.
re-read self's "quantity theory" o, for when he was on, he was on.
i think i shall attempt shatner's teklab next.

iglu ferrignu, Monday, 13 February 2012 18:06 (ten years ago) link

clark ashton smith - the book of hyperborea
george saunders - civilwarland in bad decline (re-reading some stories not all)
richard stark - the hunter
several brett halliday 'michael shayne mysteries'
jim thompson 'a hell of a woman' (preferred this to pop 1280 maybe.)
charles williams 'a touch of death'

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:01 (ten years ago) link

hound of the baskervilles otm

beware of greeks bearing petrol bombs (darraghmac), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:10 (ten years ago) link

recently finished:
julian barnes - the sense of an ending
dava sobel - a more perfect heaven
carl t bogus - buckley: william f buckley and the rise of amerikan conservatism
jo nesbo - headhunters
james ellroy - blood's a rover

just started:
derek raymond - how the dead live

on deck:
jennifer egan - visit from the goon squad
louis menand - the metaphysical club

j

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:41 (ten years ago) link

carl t bogus - buckley: william f buckley and the rise of amerikan conservatism

never has an author's name been more appropriate - this book was half-assed in terms of content and execution. would still like to read a thorough takedown of mr. patrician smarty-pants

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:46 (ten years ago) link

i am so slowly reading
eldridge cleaver - soul on ice
an anthology about baltimore riots in 1968 i started in december

but i'm not allowed to start another book until i finish both

kim tim jim investor (harbl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:26 (ten years ago) link

Soul on ice is great

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:42 (ten years ago) link

Currently reading John Calvin Batchelor's The Birth of the People's Republic of Antarctica which is excellent.

Preceded by:
Kate Wilhelm's Juniper Time which I didn't like as much Where Late The Sweet Birds Sing
Chester Brown's Paying For It which I found difficult to get through
Vladimir Sorokin's Ice which might be better in russian, but I found the translation tough to take
Christopher Priest's The Inverted World which I also really liked

Next will be Michael Bishop's No Enemy But Time as I slowly carve me way through some late 60s-early80s sci-fi on various lists that I'd previously never read.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:59 (ten years ago) link

about 200pgs into the Art of Fielding. it's aight

dmr, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:15 (ten years ago) link

richard stark - the hunter

Everything I've read from the Parker books has been very entertaining. I'm not usually into the whole hard-boiled style but Luc Sante's blog sold me on this series. It was nice to see them published again with Sante doing the intros.

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:04 (ten years ago) link

I actually slightly prefer the Dortmunder books, but I like pretty much everything that Stark/Westlake wrote.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:12 (ten years ago) link

Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad, keep getting images from the Peter O'Toole film which I wish i didn't would like it more if my mind created its own images.

Also Judge Dredd/Hammerstein.

Stevolende, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:00 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

finished:
osamu dazai - no longer human (very bleak!)
gene wolfe - book of the new sun
georges simenon - maigret and the death of a harbor master

reading:
charles williams - the wrong venus
robert b parker - the widening gyre (still digging these)
donald westlake - get real (the first dortmunder i am reading. i have a few others that i got at thrift stores i haven't checked out yet. but i love the parker & grofield stuff, and some of the other one-off novels of his i have read as well--361 was good, so was Somebody Owes Me Money.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 13 August 2012 22:00 (ten years ago) link

Adam Winkler - Gunfight: The Battle Over The right to Bear Arms in America

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 22:02 (ten years ago) link

I'm about 150 pages from the end of Bolano's 2666

dmr, Monday, 13 August 2012 22:15 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

reading now:
the jewel in the skull - michael moorcock (silly pulpy sword & sorcery but i like that stuff sometimes)
the wrong venus - charles williams (dirty-book themed crime caper, love williams.)

just finished:
the hot spot, also by charles williams. for fans of the usual suspects -- willeford, thompson, goodis et al. small town car salesman gets tied up with two women and several criminal activities ensue.

gave up on get real.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:28 (ten years ago) link

i'll get back to it.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:28 (ten years ago) link

Any Simenon recommendations, ian? I picked up a nice Maigret omnibus yesterday and started with Liberty Bar.

jim, Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:46 (ten years ago) link

i am fairly new to simenon actually, but he is probably my wife's favorite writer after Raymond Chandler. She swears by all the Maigret mysteries. Of the non-Maigret stuff, I thought Dirty Snow was a-mazing.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:53 (ten years ago) link

the jewel in the skull - michael moorcock

could never get into anything outside the sci fi except elric. is that corum or hawkmoon or what?

the late great, Saturday, 1 September 2012 03:55 (ten years ago) link

i'm trying to read "the golden space" but it's pretty hard going (see sci fi thread, recently)

the late great, Saturday, 1 September 2012 03:56 (ten years ago) link

tempted to switch to babel 187 or engine summer

the late great, Saturday, 1 September 2012 03:56 (ten years ago) link

that is some hawkmoon action.
i never read anything outside the elric when i was a kid.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 1 September 2012 04:25 (ten years ago) link

ditched "Vineland" to do 3 barthelmes on the trot.
on 4th & enjoying immensely. he clicks for me, unlike the pynch. an effortless read.
also 1/2way through "the ticket that exploded". not read any burroughs in abt 15yrs & i forgot just how fantastic he gets at the top of his game.

iglu ferrignu, Saturday, 1 September 2012 07:22 (ten years ago) link

finished 2666. really blew me away unlike Savage Detectives which I thought was pretty overrated. not sure what I'm going to pick up next. someone left a book called "Hopeful Monsters" by Nicholas Moseley in a free pile on the sidewalk and I grabbed it but not sure if I want to read it now.

oh yeah also read Ragtime a while ago, that was good

dmr, Sunday, 2 September 2012 01:42 (ten years ago) link


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