But I'm not sure that is the whole point of these photos.
This is actually a really fascinating thread because it puts much of the indie ethos on display, namely, that forever unresolvable conflict between art and commerce. Most indie bands aim to shake off as many markings of commerce as possible and thus probably don't even want to be in a photo much less labor to make it interesting. After all, these are publicity photos. For some, even putting themselves on display at a live show can be uncomfortable.
But this is what people who like indie like about indie, gap pants in a park/café/basement and all.
-- Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 16:53 (Yesterday) Link
That's a really great insight to have had in 1998..
-- Hurting 2, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:07 (2 hours ago) Link
― and what, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link
look up this word: necrophilia
-- =[[ (eman), Friday, August 11, 2006 6:43 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark Link Look up this word: arsehole
-- Jaimee, Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:43 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Link
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 12 July 2007 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link
goodtimes zingyzongy fun:
heavy ho ho,
too thick or you'd dip ur wick?
http://image.blingee.com/images12/content/output/2007/7/14/50577290_31e03edb.gif
-- jergïns, Friday, July 13, 2007 6:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
i'd dip my tenwick
-- sanskrit, Friday, July 13, 2007 7:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
your lil tenwick
signed,
BIGG CONRAD
-- Confounded, Friday, July 13, 2007 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
more like yr bigg 10mm wick
-- sanskrit, Friday, July 13, 2007 8:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
^^ LOLZ
oh shit confounded!!!!! how does it feel to get so thoroughly owned???
-- Lingbert, Friday, July 13, 2007 9:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
i'll tell u when it happens
-- Confounded, Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:51 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Link
― jergïns, Sunday, 15 July 2007 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link
mercury music prize: 2007
let's see if we can rise above and pay it no heed this year, ok?
-- lex pretend, Monday, July 16, 2007 5:52 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
No better way to ignore something than by posting in a thread about it.
-- bnw, Monday, July 16, 2007 5:58 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
― jed_, Monday, 16 July 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
albini-engineered, unreleased iotk is better than regular iotk.both albini & mckaye disagree with you on this matter-- J0hn D., Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:24 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link--------------------------------------------------------------------------------and your point is? probably a few mountain goats fans love stuff you wrote off years ago.-- hstencil, Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:00 PM (5 days ago)
both albini & mckaye disagree with you on this matter
-- J0hn D., Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:24 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link
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and your point is? probably a few mountain goats fans love stuff you wrote off years ago.
-- hstencil, Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:00 PM (5 days ago)
wowzerz.
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link
not actually that harsh.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link
oh hey here is a question: someone posted this on my last.fm 'shoutbox' and i do not know what it means - what does it mean?
Bang goes Steve Albini's 'theory' again.
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link
it means steve albini does not have a good explanation for gaps in the fossil record
― ghost rider, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link
ban ghost rider
― ghost rider, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link
who is ghost rider
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link
WHO IS RIVER WOLF
har it's true that the capitalization of Bang made me think of Big Bang this person/stranger and i have like 100% music compatability, so i know it's not a zing - maybe it's a zing against steve a though. shrug xpost
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link
yes, it's a zing against me. sorry for not supplying the back story.
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link
hahar
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link
steve a sez women don't listen to good music
― A B C, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't care if you came in to shit on El, Aes, Vast Aire, MF Doom or fucking Humpty Hump; what the issue is here is your predictable tendency to just step in like your opinion of underground rap means anything more significant than "The beats are not jiggy crunk and the rhymes are too complex therefore it is shitty and worthless". The only reason you probably looked in this thread was because the header was "Aesop Rock is cool" and you probably had a snarky "I can't understand what he is rapping about and the production makes me sad" retort, and all you did was just replace that with "ew El-P for four minutes, that's awful". Have you even fucking HEARD THE VERSES? I think Matos and I made it pretty damned clear that they're pretty different from his usual style. Fucking A. And "timidly closeminded taste in rap": yeah, that's precious. I guaranfuckingtee you I have more appreciation and tolerance for mainstream hip-hop than you have for underground hip-hop.
What I want ILM to be is something above "hurr hurr uh like dude that suxx"; you seem to approach most indie rap in a tone that sounds like a hyperactive teenager on a Dew-and-crank bender lashing out against all those horrible critics who said bad things about "bling bling" in their big-up reviews of Stankonia or Labor Days.
-- Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, September 6, 2003 4:34 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
dude he made an el-p joke. if you got mad at everybody that dissed el-p on the internet everyday youd be a very busy man!
-- chaki (chaki), Saturday, September 6, 2003 4:43 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
― and what, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link
nate was so sincere and you broke him :(
― bnw, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link
i think everyone should have to take a mandatory course called "learning to enjoy and find humour in getting one's own balls busted." people would enjoy life a lot more. and there'd be tons more great zings.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link
i'd wish the same upon you, kate, but i think you're miserable enough. also ken otm.
-- the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 18 July 2007 23:42 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
― Trayce, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link
come to think of it, alex - it was the media that attacked me + nearly crushed my hand.
-- dyson (dyson), Monday, January 26, 2004 12:53 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
It's a good thing you've never been robbed by a black person, dyson, you might have to join the kkk.
-- bnw (bnw), Monday, January 26, 2004 1:01 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link
(xpost) otm. That woman is deeply frustrated Turning Up The Suck - the Soundcheck and Sound Engineer Nightmare Thread (not that I'm entirely unsympathetic about what happened, but my god...)
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Ethan, why are you still dredging up 4-year-old shit re: Nate zings? Did he fuck your girl?
― David R., Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
i just reposted a 3 year old zing!!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link
i got zinged
― David R., Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link
^^ potential ilx tee
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link
hey dave i posted it because its a classic zing - my girl isnt a marmot or whatever so dude probly isnt interested in tapping it
― and what, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link
it is more of an el-p zing anyway.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
what thread is that schef kate zing from?
― chaki, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link
my girl isnt a marmot or whatever so dude probly isnt interested in tapping it
CLASSY
― David R., Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link
chaki, it's from i hate people having sex
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link
What you do is you go inside the pain. Then, the pain is no longer inside you - it's outside. But then you realize there you are in this new space in your body again and maybe your body is still registering the pain. So you repeat the process. But I believe that each time you make that move you are actually doing something toward eventually healing that pain.-- Tim Ellison, Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:45 PM (1 hour ago) i believe this is also called "denial"-- akm, Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:46 PM (1 hour ago)
-- Tim Ellison, Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:45 PM (1 hour ago)
i believe this is also called "denial"
-- akm, Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:46 PM (1 hour ago)
― get bent, Thursday, 19 July 2007 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link
more sigh than zing
― chaki, Thursday, 19 July 2007 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link
i posted on ILX and all I got was this lacerating zing
― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 19 July 2007 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link
eh, if i wanna see unfunny, drunk, coked-up assholes, i just walk around in my neighborhood.
-- hstencil, Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:16 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
or look in the mirror???
-- Mr. Que, Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:17 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
― Nubbelverbrennung, Thursday, 19 July 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link
coyote nate probably like pigeon john
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 19 July 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link
the stence zing seems more of a drum-riff half-zing joke, i think
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 19 July 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, Braff is sickeningly precious, but come on. There's some 16 year old girl out there who is just discovering cute, precious boys, and comedy at the same time, and they think Braff hung the moon. Why you wanna beat up Braff and make that girl cry? She'll grow out of it, even if Braff won't.
-- kenan, Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
surely someone can work a good zing out of this and get us out of this rut
― deej, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link
something along the lines of 'kenan 16 year old girls lol'
quite a lot to unpack there.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link
WTF, dudes? I think that's a perfectly reasonable thing to say. There are 16 yr old girls in the world -- in fact, over half of the population was one of them at one time -- and we are all aware of their existence. Work a little harder for zingage.
― Laurel, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link
plenty of zings have been made in response to reasonable/defensible statements
― deej, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link
if you can zing that you can probably zing every song steely dan ever wrote
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link
the joke was that it was kenan, not that someone said something about 16 year old girls but never you mind me, i dont even make fun of kenan generally
― deej, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link
kenan is acting quite the cuntrarian today; i feel he deserves this scorn.
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link
the scorn of BEING IGNORED
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link
when did you start having to "unpack" stuff people wrote?...it's just a bunch of bullshit on the internet, not a steamer trunk.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
^^^^haa
― and what, Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link
helges0n tribute thread
― and what, Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link
But let's not fight about Happiness. I really like that movie.
-- kenan, Thursday, July 19, 2007
No great surprise there.
-- Elvis Telecom, Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:41 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link
^^^see i was digging for that earlier
― deej, Thursday, 19 July 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link