zing

pandemic the equivalent of the schoolyard hanger-on who spots the weird kid getting atomic wedgied and yells "yeah and you /smell/"

Nah that's probably me :-(

Oh I don't know, I'm horrible

It's just a bad analogy. If I'm to be compared to some 'orrible brat administering wedgies, it would be as logical to cast matt in the role of "schoolyard hanger-on" for reposting, or lj himself! No idea who nv would be in this scenario either. It just doesn't fit. The Bach-richter thing is more apt. I am Bach.

And I'm rictus

schoolyard hanger-on sounds dirty

id hang on his schoolaryard, if you get my meaning

wow this is all imago's fault

When I stumble on a conversation bout AI and intelligence I often think of this post I read like two years ago:

"Personally, I predict that if we do succeed in inventing autonomous, free-thinking, self-aware, hyper-intelligent beings, they will do the really smart thing, and reprogram themselves to be Mountain Dew-guzzling Dungeons & Dragons-playing slackers. Or maybe fashion-obsessed 17-year-old Vancouver skater kids. Or the main character from the movie Amelie. Or something like this: "

http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-slackularity.html

― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:36 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

will they write blogs to justify a lame pun as well?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:19 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey fred he trailed her by 50 points in NH, what, 6 months ago

you know for someone only 4000 miles away, youre on top of things as if you were posting from Jupiter.

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, February 9, 2016 2:42 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jupiter, FL is only 1470 miles from NH

Great

Hey what about Ted Cruz? I mean, unbelievably awful pick, sure, but don't you want to see him argue against his own nomination?

I think this accurately describes the frame - http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/02/how-the-politics-of-the-next-nomination-will-pay-out/#more-238336.

The opposition has chosen to make this all about politics and so while the Potus will certainly pick a qualified candidate (knowing that they are likely to be rejected at least as an initial matter), the (identity-)political effect of their obstruction/rejection is going to be front and center. Goldstein is right that the (initial) nominee is more likely than not going to be a member of a racial/ethnic minority group and/or a woman, preferably with recent Senate approval and/or other ties/vetting that would make them more difficult to slow-walk or pretend that there's some non-identity factor to their opposition. Goldstein ignores, however, a more granular political factor - ideally, given the importance of our politics' ridiculous division into the semi-arbitrary geographic boxes we call states, the nominee might also have an impact on one or more of them that are important in the electoral college and/or to Senatorial control. Consideration may also be given to the politics of the primary, with sensitivity to the possibility that a nominee could create a wedge issue between Clinton and Sanders, positively or negatively, though Sanders would have to be very careful not to be seen as siding with the GOP obstructionists here.

Goldstein may well be right that Obama will pick an African-American woman and that that woman will be Loretta Lynch. I'm not so sure, though, for several reasons. One, I think anyone associated with the President is at least somewhat unlikely as a political matter (though the recency of her service may temper that concern). Two, I think Goldstein at least slightly overestimates the extent to which Obama regards advancing African-American representation as either key to his legacy or important to this pick in particular (though I could certainly be wrong). Three, he certainly underestimates the extent to which Sotomayor, a Puerto Rican, is representative of "hispanics" (though his focus elsewhere may reflect his estimation of the potential hispanic nominees, not to mention the fact that they would maintain the 2/3 Catholic majority on the Court). And fourth, he doesn't reckon sufficiently with the potential political significance of an Asian appointee or the broader use of this fight to illustrate that it's GOP obstructionism that is the problem with Washington.

Here is my short list of potential nominees in addition to Lynch:
- Jane Kelly - already approved to the appellate bench by Cruz, McConnell, Rubio, and fellow Iowan and Judiciary Committee Chair Grassley, to whom she is close, she would be harder to attack (despite being Obama's HLS classmate) for not just those reasons but but also as a victim of a violent assault. Her unusually swingy state partially neighbors another (Wisconsin) that has almost swung and is the site of one of the likelier Democratic Senate pickups this year, and she would create issues for not just Ron Johnson there but probably Kelly Ayotte in NH (not that a male nominee wouldn't) and maybe her other fellow Iowan Joni Ernst, among others.
- Amy Klobuchar - a well-liked and media-trained Minnesota-Nice (and IA/WI-neighboring) member of the Judiciary Committee, the obstruction of whom might make her colleagues (including all 6 GOP women) look even worse, even if her political orientation is a complicating factor
- Sri Srinivasan - already approved by Cruz/Grassley/McConnell/Rubio, and whose Obama admin (and, earlier, Gore campaign) role might be blunted by his prominent corporate law firm representations (though those might create a political issue on the left, as mentioned) and clerkships for Sandra Day O'Connor and a leading conservative appellate court judge (whose inputs could be important). While he lacks important geographical ties, the Indian-American vote is significant in Virginia, perhaps among other states, which fellow Indian-American and coastal Southeastern Nikki Haley could threaten to put into play if selected as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee (which makes her attempted-king-making choice between Bush, towards whom she probably leans, Kasich, and Rubio this week a high-stakes one on which she may punt).

Some people I think are prominent possibles, but doubt will be nominated, at least in the first instance:
- Just about any white man, e.g. Merrick Garland or David Barron (and including Jews or Italian-Americans like Don Verrilli, though those might be fun politically too), though some of these have been reported to be on the short list, so we'll see
- Paul Watford - an African-American Federal appellate judge from L.A. who clerked for both Ginsburg and a leading conservative appellate Judge (also with some conservative academic supporters) before becoming a corporate law firm partner, and was approved by the Democratic Senate in 2012 without the support of most Republicans including Grassley, McConnell and Rubio would be a harder sell than Srinivasan or Lynch, and any political upside from the opposition would probably be smaller than that from a Wilkins or Patrick, blunted by his low profile, apolitical, and "establishment" orientation, as well as, perhaps, his light skin and mild affect. I think he's likeliest to be nominated, if at all, (by HRC) to succeed RBG when she leaves the bench, though he too is a frequent short-list name.
- Pat Millett - a white D.C. appellate judge approved on a mostly party-line vote in 2013 during intense debate over the filibuster seems unlikely from a political perspective as compared to Lynch), even with military ties, though her connection to resident (No)VA and native ME, while of uncertain strength, is not without electoral significance, in particular for Susan Collins and Kelly Ayotte.
- Kamala Harris - famously a three-fer as an African/Indian-American woman but, as per Goldstein, she appears to be cruising to Barbara Boxer's Senate seat and I'm skeptical she'd want to turn attention from for a nomination unlikely to succeed in part because she strikes me as more of a politician than a jurist, also a knock against her along with her marriage to an administration official, though I don't rule out the possibility that this could be a platform for her political career. And yes, she's definitely a potential Presidential candidate in 2022 or later...
- Deval Patrick - probably never running for President - he's already 59 and has moved on to Bain Capital - not that that would be an obstacle to his being nominated, especially given the strong likelihood that the nomination would fail, but another political pick that I suspect too isn't interested, though without certainty.
- Jeh Johnson - the Director of Homeland Security, who was confirmed by more than 3-1 but without the support of Cruz, Grassley, McConnell, or Rubio, and whose replacement would have to be nominated and confirmed, making him less available than Patrick, e.g.
- Just about anyone well into their 60s or older, e.g. Diane Wood, Eric Holder, Leah Ward Sears, Carlos Moreno, etc.
- Most non-Srinivasan Asian-Americans - Neal Katyal lacks his Senate confirmation hook, and non-Indian Americans aren't as electorally significant
- Just about anyone whose issue or personal profile relates to LBGT rights, e.g. Pam Karlan, Alison Nathan, Paul Smith; that's been fought and won in quite recent memory and brings little political benefit

And some less-mentioned maybes of varying degrees:
- Robert Wilkins - an African-American D.C. Federal appellate judge, former law firm partner, and Harvard grad from Indiana once the subject of the famous "driving while black" case who was narrowly approved by the Democratic Senate in 2014 would draw attention to the issue of racial profiling in a way that few others would. He'd be highly unlikely to be confirmed, but in his case the opposition of most Republican Senators (and his overlapping a year with Obama at HLS) would be the whole point, though possibly one blunted by the potential transparency of the politics.
- Adalberto Jordan - a Cuban-American Federal appellate judge from Florida with a law firm background who once clerked for Sandra Day O'Connor (again, what she would say would be important) and was overwhelmingly approved by the Democratic Senate (including GOP Judiciary Chair Grassley, McConnell, and Rubio, but not Cruz who wasn't yet a Senator) in 2012 is a maybe, but I think he's probably too limited in his personal appeal
- Ray Lohier - a Haitian-(Canadian-)American (he would take his oath on a neon bible, obv) Federal appellate judge and former prosecutor from NYC with a Korean-American wife who was approved unanimously (including by Grassley and McConnell; Cruz and Rubio were not yet Senators) to take Sotomayor's seat by the Democratic Senate in 2010 is really a maybe, but I think his background probably isn't quite right for the desired political impact (same goes for West Indian-American Joe Greenaway, who graduated from one of the country's better high schools and best undergraduate college before settling for Harvard Law School).
- Christine Arguello - a Mexican-American Federal trial court judge from highly-electorally-significant Colorado nominated by George W. Bush (who had earlier chosen not to renominate her after her lame-duck nomination by WJC) in 2008 and confirmed unanimously by voice vote in the Senate. Not an appellate judge/litigator, though (for better or worse), and a bit old at 60.
- Jo-Anne Epps - the law school Dean (and NCAA rep) of Temple U who also chairs Philly's police oversight board (in a somewhat electorally-significant city and state, including for the Senate) would highlight the black lives matter issue, but not in a way that Robert Wilkins wouldn't, and she probably wouldn't receive universal support from that group; a woman, yes, but far less prominent than Lynch
- Mariano Florentino-Cuellar - a Supreme Court of California Justice with degrees from Harvard, Yale, and Stanford who was born in Mexico, grew up in Texas, advised the Obama administration on immigration policy (want to explode Ted Cruz' brain?), and is married to a Korean-American, though her service as a judge in Federal court in California could complicate things. He's only 43 and has never been before the Senate, so fairly unlkely, but personally, I think he'd be a very attractive political choice, combining hispanic, youth, and some asian appeal.

― Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Monday, February 15, 2016 8:00 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

your short list, eh

― shandemonium padawan (Doctor Casino), Monday, February 15, 2016 8:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I really want you guys to get free healthcare and free education and all that, but until american white liberalism starts to grapple with why it's correct to call it 'white liberalism', it won't happen. You will lose, and as demographics change you will lose worse and worse. And the joke is, nobody will care. Sanders will be your last gasp of relevance, and the coalition of minorities, single women and cultural/economic elites will continue to rule.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, March 8, 2016 11:12 AM

Sort of picturing u cackling like skeletor with that last bit.
― "Worried pimp" (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, March 8, 2016 11:25 AM

the coalition of minorities, single women and cultural/economic elites will continue to rule.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, March 8, 2016 11:12 AM

Ah yes the continued rule of this coalition is certainly the major worry for Dems this political season.

Poor old Fred's getting it in the neck today.

He has shown an alarming ability to not having been told and talking down to entire large swathes of us political ilx is asking for a whacking at the best of times, let alone when well when you're just not all that well bright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSnVvYbNKKI

continued appreciation for your diplomacy in these times, darragh. truly working as an international partner.

that video is really something.

idk about diplomacy but experience with ilx is that even when everyone else is obviously wrong and stupid and you yourself are clearly wielding a glorious metaphorical broadsword of impeccable rhetoric with burnished edge of harsh truth it is still unpleasant when they are all shouting at you and you should probably not continue with the wielding, wielding being a pretty useless activity insofar as getting anywhere in this harsh world goes

yeah let's all just be pleasant to each other that should work out

maybe i misunderstood, it's hard to to hear you down here when you're on such a high horse

imo darragh's trying to say he has no horse in this race

we should all just get along and love one another except deems who we should fp

I would like to contribute more to u.s. politics threads, give freddy b some competition for the role of most stridently misinformed northern european

And when the broken hearted people
Living in the world agree,
There will be an answer, freddy b

Fuck u brimstead.

Not really

But yknow yeah at same time you fight, fight hard and get mad, get so mad, on message boards, you're definitely earning the merit badges required by doing that. Online rumplestilskin the shit outtve whatever.

just feel bad abt how everyone in the world follows our terrible politics

no one in america can name a single foreign head of state except hitler

Not even Queen Elizabeth?

who?

just feel bad abt how everyone in the world follows our terrible politics

Presidential elections, nothing else.

Helps if a clown like Trump is running, of course.

who?

Queen of Denmark, mother of Hamlet IIRC.

Boom

@DennisThePerrin
Being a Hillary apologist these days is a form of performance art.

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:38 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

@ManTheAlive
Being Dennis Perrin these days is a form of performance fart.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:42 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wow zingmeter hits a new low

@DennisThePerrin zings himself.

you're a mod, can't you just unlock one of the 1p3 fart threads if you want to make fart jokes?

I have no right to hate, but I'll note once again that the fart/art pun is the lowest form abused by art departments everywhere. at least twice as bad as the already horrible e(art)h.

did someone say fart

get a new joke

― Mr. Que, Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:53 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuckshit

Also

trenchant social commentary 2

...burn?

waterface you have to recognize the burn before you can recover from it

Feel like posting random examples of shitposting as riposte has established ilx precedent but if you limit yourself to "search for threads started by" you're not gonna come up with the goods

that's not what i meant