i go to new york

There's not much to do in LIC but it's easy to get around from there at least. There's been some development on the north side of Queens Plaza, with M Wells Steakhouse which is probably worth a visit. If you like the ethnic foods take trains out to Elmhurst, Flushing and Jackson Heights. Otherwise, hope the G train is running.

LIC is very good for getting into Manhattan, that's why all those people live there.

It's good for getting into Midtown, not that anyone who doesn't work there wants to go there but you can transfer to anything obv.

LIC makes some sense to me - pretty unexciting and blah in itself, but well-connected by transit, and just enough "there" that you can sort of survive, find breakfast, etc. (Though the more pleasant spots in LIC for this are further south, where you can see trees in Google satellite view. You also get a kind of weird 'ta-da, New York!' experience through a walk along Queensboro Plaza, with the elevated train piling up overhead, the cheap-as-dirt shops lining up to the sides - and then shiny towers in the mid-ground and the contemporary landscape project at 41st Ave. Again, not going to be a #1 sight in New York for most people. The closest area of contiguous "neighborhood cuteness" would be Greenpoint - good Polish food, and looooots of yuppie/hipster establishments, some of which will be quite delicious and satisfying.)

The G for Greenpoint and Williamsburg, and the E, 7, N and Q for everything in Manhattan.

My first trip to NYC I stayed in a hostel on the UWS, which was similarly not so "happening" (though maybe prettier, I guess) but a much longer trek from doing fun things.

Midtown also good for various things tourists want to do, not knowing enough about darraghmac - MOMA, Rockefeller Center, Bryant Park, and all them tall buildings! Two stops from LIC with the M or the E, very little fuss.

Free shuttle to manhattan, the fabled MANHATTAN of my darling golem's scribbled primary instruction.

Also we are v quiet and boring really, i mean we'll likely just nap most days.

xp not really, i am bookmarking yr posts dr casino, thks

All true! Lol this is like that thing were I was in a room of other NYers the other day and no one had ever been to the Empire State Building or the Statue of Liberty.

That was an xp btw, I am not necessarily otming darra's protestations of boringness.

Ur all too jaded cant u see that journeying around NEW YORK will be an adventure in itself

But yeah touristy stuff etc ease of getting around and all that, also place seemed reasonable and quite nice, what have you

I am boring but in a v amusing personable kinda way, im ok with this, fully expect other ilxors to provide the interest while i mutter pointed asides (note this didnt work with estela as we both just kept muttering)

I finally went up in the Empire State like a year ago. never done statue of liberty, no (unless looking at it from the Staten Island Ferry counts)

what kinds of things are you guys planning on doing dmac, museums, sights, shopping, food

Empire State actually is kind of fun for the view, also the camp of the audio guide, Tony, a composite of six real and fictitious cabbies. ''Ah...da Brooklyn Bridge. My fadda, he used to pay a nickel ta...''

i went to go to the Empire State build once and it was so expensive so we gave up

btw darragh, don't think i'm knocking being a tourist (or quietly poking around the big city), I've basically made it a second career and thoroughly endorse it.

some of the best manhattan views are in LIC for what its worth

windows on the world was the best (rip) cause u cld go up there for free and get a drink and gaze out upon the majesty and lol at the fools who waited in line to pay to go up in the other tower

you can also catch the east river ferry downtown, which is fun.

Views from hotel rooftop bar look great

Max- yeah to all those, emphasis on sights and museums, tho we will v likely eat at some stage

Kinda just wandering around too iykwim, tho obv ny being ny this could come under 'sights'

wandering around is tite

the citys too expensive tbh dont bother coming here

extra points if you refer to it as flaneuring

Can u get tayto and/or lyons tea in nyc or in surrounding states

max otm go to dallas instead

Above 14th st. is not all that much fun to wander around imo unless you just like tall buildings. Of course there are many institutions and museums and parks worth visiting. But areas like LES, West Village, East Village, Chinatown are more fun to roam.

im sure u can get whatever tea u want if u look hard enough

also check when the museums are free

no to mention which days they're closed, I was planning to go to PS1 today to see the Mike Kelley thing but they're closed Tues and Weds. oops.

moma is free friday evenings, new museum thursday evenings, amnh and the met are always technically "free"

Guggenheim has a few free hours on Saturdays - I found lines down and around the block last time I did this, might have just been people into the dumb James Turrell thing, or it might always be like that. Guggenheim is really expensive though so that can almost be worth it.

some of the best manhattan views are in LIC for what its worth

otm you should walk to gantry state park from your hotel it's rad

i bet the line was for the turrell piece

is the mike kelley show good

Guggs is not always like that. It was the Turrell thing. Mike Kelly show is good.

Plaz post any other good shows, ideas for things to do, places to walk around, I'm gonna b in ny this wknd and don't want to click on show all messages

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is the mike kelley show good

supposed to be, I'll tell you Thursday I guess

Don't do Empire State Building dmac, do the Top of the Rock

I don't love Mike Kelley, but if you do I'd imagine it's a good show, being that it's the largest ever and the first comprehensive one in a couple decades

and the images look pretty nice. Plus PS1 is always worth the trip just to enjoy the space and to eat at M Wells Dinette.

I didn't have strong feelings about Kelley, but the show was impressive. Didn't realize the breadth of his work. Almost the entire first floor is devoted to his recreations of the city of Kandor from Superman. There are other pieces, like this one huge sculpture upstairs, that are amazing.

M Wells Dinette is great but be careful if you're not too adventurous an eater. Last time we went the options were pretty limited and I decided to roll the dice on a Goat Tagine Terrine. Despite HATING gelatinous foods, I thought I'd man up and give it a shot since nothing else seemed up my alley and I figured I could handle it. I was wrong. It was like 10% goat meat and 90% terrine, solidified goat fat. I thought the ratio would be different. Sure, it tasted great once I stopped gagging.

The time I went before that I had one of the best meals I've had in years, so who knows.

While it may not be the first choice of things to do, you can take the 7 train in the direction opposite of Manhattan and go to the Queens Museum and see the panaroma of New York. Then you can say you saw the WHOLE city. They also have good permanent exhibits on the World's Fair and Tiffany glass, in addition to the contemporary international stuff. And outside is the actual worlds fair stuff which is pretty cool to see. The unisphere etc. Then go to Flushing for food. Or stop in Jackson Heights on the way back.

i have found m wells dinette to be very hit or miss and very expensive.

who's off tomorrow and drinking tonight?

Did you end up going out?

well, briefly. I was exhausted from the Mad Mad World disc.

Oh, I was working. :(

You felt like Jonathan Winters after tearing up the gas station?
(xp)

more like Dick Shawn('s stuntman) after he got flung across that buffet table

I'm coming out of the woods again this weekend to visit your rich people 's playground. Did Tuomas ever find those "bohemian clothes "? I'm in Bed Stuy for this visit.

Rad! I hope you like it! What's the nearest subway stop, out of curiousity?