posts very much in character

http://www.xenotypetech.com/images/cherokee_qtext.gif

http://i.imgur.com/ZLyrl.jpg

Navajo, native speakers: 171,000 self-reported[1], a more conservative estimate of fluent speakers in 1990 is 120,000 with probably fewer speakers in 2010[2] (2007)

Cornish, native speakers: a few under 20 years (2003)[1]
600 L2 (2003)[1]
3,500 (2008)[2]

I'm not up on the politics of American indigenous people, but I'm under the impression that e.g. the Navajo Nation is at least partially self governing?

So if you're bringing this up to counter me, you're actually supporting my original arguments for Cornish nationhood, self-determination and self governance?

I have no idea what this convo is about but I once heard a Navajo language readio station while on a res in NM and it is the craziest most awesome sounding thing.

Population of Cornwall in 2008 estimated to be 534,300;
26% of the population of Cornwall identified as Cornish in the Cornwall Quality of Life Survey 2007;[3]

In other words, there are as many people who natively speak Navajo as there are Cornish people, total. And most of those Cornish people don't speak Cornish.

Native Americans are just as American as they are part of their tribe or people. I'm pretty sure the idea of being "English" is annoying because it was originally the name of a specific group of people, though. The groups in the US who want independence consider themselves more American, not breakaways, generally. It's not a counterargument, just a different dynamic.

See: my earlier Monty Python pandering. People don't want to be English or Britons or whatever because some dude decided he's king and runs around telling people!

Well, it's more that there is already a classification for people who were born on/are citizens of this island, but are not necessarily English - i.e. British. And I don't know why Pitchfork opened that can of worms by separating out English and Scottish in that way without realising that "English" is a pretty complicated issue for some people.

(Well, obviously they did it out of the same ignorance that makes people think that there is such a thing as an "English Passport.")

well, yeah, ignorance

Seems like if England was its own country, it would have its own passport.

autonomous collective, iirc

also, a suspicious side-eye at the lack of cock shots

― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:10 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these countries inside of great brittan they dont really behave like countries that much

spelling error -1

― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 14:24 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha I didn't even think anyone would notice me posting the WCC post here tbh

ftr I endorse the sentiment behind it but never in ten lifetimes would have expected pfork to consider Cornwall as distinguished from England in the respect it's being used there

cornwall might be inside of england have to check a map

p sure cornwall is the name for the great wall around england

english farmers used to plant corn there, on the wall, to trade w/ the vikings

Cornugallensis

no one move a muscle as the dead come home

nice.

everyone knows you can't trade with vikings, they just plunder

cornish were a canny people and would offer up boxes of fudge for burzum tapes

everyone knows you can't trade with vikings, they just plunder

― your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:41 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HELL YEAH THEY DO

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/12/001.png

I have no idea what this convo is about but I once heard a Navajo language readio station while on a res in NM and it is the craziest most awesome sounding thing.

No imagine hearing it at the bus stop.

A Navajo co-worker was explaining how complicated it can be to say some things in Navajo. Like, rather than a word for pencil, the literal translation is something like: "extended wooden object that can be used to form words," or something like that. Not very verbatim, but it was definitely similarly convoluted.

No = now.

Just here putting off things I'd rather do.

On the issue of Native American sovereignty, here's a blast from the past:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5xVRXLgLxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5xVRXLgLxw

3 months pass...

http://www.quickanded.com/2010/11/why-not-yale.html

― iatee, Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:30 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1 year passes...

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/8/30/academic-dishonesty-ad-board/

― iatee, Friday, August 31, 2012 12:46 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

Can you pre-load it with terrorizer/decibel lists too?

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, August 31, 2012 4:26 PM (Yesterday)

Man those stabbings were dreamy

― latebloomer, Monday, September 3, 2012 4:54 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hA ha!

a.d.i.d.a.s.

lol

a.d.i.d.a.s.s. !!!!!!

>:-D

lol i actually meant "freaky" but my phone picked "dreamy"

Man, the more I sit with this, the more pissed off I get.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:35 PM (20 minutes ago)

Very amewsing

― I am one who socks (latebloomer), Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:06 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the klan joke i've seen attributed to her doesn't scan as racist to me. just sort of dumb.

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:25 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idgi

andrew helpfully suggests that i am too racist myself to grasp the subtleties

What is this Klan joke?

fwiw contendo i don;t think you're racist

what do you call klan members holding a strike? a bigot line!

If that's the joke, I gotta agree with Contenderizer. Calling Klan members "bigots" doesn't reek of racism to me.

that wasn't the joke

If that's the joke, I gotta agree with Contenderizer. Calling Klan members "bigots" doesn't reek of racism to me.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 20 September 2012 07:57 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha