posts very much in character

Your idea of "intelligent discussion" seems "everyone always agrees with Frogbs and no one ever calls him on the offensive and untrue shit he comes out with."

I don't often say things like this, but seriously. If you don't think that the discussion on ILX that you get involved with is intelligent, you might want to look in the mirror.

Now here is my funny gif, and I'm done.

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That's not true. There's plenty of intelligent discussion on here and people rarely agree with me on anything. I've learned a few things along the way. However there are a lot of posters who just straight-up aren't willing to accept that other viewpoints exist or use THAT as a springboard for massive character judgements on issues that they barely understand themselves. Not "here's what's wrong with what you said" but rather "here's what's wrong with what I hope you meant".

is it just me or does this feel like some sort of marvel dc xover battle

As I see it, Frogbs, there are two things going on here:

1) There is a difference between a Viewpoint and a Prejudice. The difference is that a Viewpoint is usually accompanied by either direct personal experience of an issue, or study and careful interpretation of evidence relating to that issue. A Prejudice has no basis except "Well, I believe that..." People on ILX are often accepting of multiple Viewpoints, but they do not have a duty to accept Prejudices.

2) You do not seem to understand that there is a difference between "You need to check your Privilege" and "You are the worst person forever." The former is a nice way of saying "of the people in this debate, one is speaking from a Viewpoint based on direct personal experience and the other is not. You might want to examine if you have a Viewpoint or a Prejudice before you go making any further assertions about things they have experienced and you have not."

The latter is what people say to you when you carry on insisting that you are being censured by "OMG the PC police" because you cannot tell the difference between your right to a Viewpoint and a Prejudice. Or because you persist in espousing the false belief that it is somehow making a "character judgement" about you, personally, to suggest that you might be the recipient of Privilege, rather than a statement about power dynamics within a society.

the false belief that it is somehow making a "character judgement" about you, personally, to suggest that you might be the recipient of Privilege, rather than a statement about power dynamics within a society.

To be fair A TON of basically nice people miss this point all the time. A ton. Possibly most. In all kinds of intersectionalities.

I'd love to discuss that at greater length, Laurel, if I didn't think it would turn into a giant clusterfuck instantly.

Everyone misses that from time to time, because people are human.

(another profound interjection from DJP)

Haha. I don't say that to undermine WCC's point, btw, I say it to reinforce that having someone point out that you can AFFORD not to be aware of things that hurt others, is not the same thing as being accused of hurting them yourself.

But if you CONTINUE to let them get hurt and not see them as part of your web, which is a web of everyone, THEN in the future you are increasingly complicit in their harm because you do benefit from people of other types/groups/populations being kept down. I mean almost everyone benefits somehow from someone else being kept back or kept down. All we are saying is, lift them up.

Yeah, I know, and I am not excepting myself from this.

some ppl seem to be confused + think that this thread is a place to post their own posts very much in character, when in fact - as i understand it - it's a place to post OTHER posters posts very much in character

people seem confused re the proper use of this thread altogether

There is a difference between a Viewpoint and a Prejudice. The difference is that a Viewpoint is usually accompanied by either direct personal experience of an issue, or study and careful interpretation of evidence relating to that issue. A Prejudice has no basis except "Well, I believe that..." People on ILX are often accepting of multiple Viewpoints, but they do not have a duty to accept Prejudices.

So you're just assuming that nothing I say is a "direct personal experience of an issue, or study and careful interpretation of evidence relating to that issue"? Is that a viewpoint, or a prejudice? I'm confused.

Or because you persist in espousing the false belief that it is somehow making a "character judgement" about you, personally, to suggest that you might be the recipient of Privilege, rather than a statement about power dynamics within a society.

People on here have been a tad bit meaner than "you might be the recipient of Privilege"

Here's a post in character for ya: go fuck yourself, Mordy.

maybe he wasnt talking about you?

strike that: more like an eclipse/first xover battle

(another profound interjection from DJP)

― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:39 AM (38 minutes ago

maybe he wasnt talking about you?

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten)

Mordy singled out WCC on the transgender thread (since locked) a few days ago, it's not jumping to conclusions that he probably IS talking about her. And me. And probably some other people too, but if you saw the other posts it would be p disingenuous to brush WCC off that way.

to be fair, WCC has also been very strong in advocating not judging posters based on their posting history, too, though.

lol forks

power rangers/beetle borgs imo

some ppl seem to be confused + think that this thread is a place to post their own posts very much in character, when in fact - as i understand it - it's a place to post OTHER posters posts very much in character

― Mordy, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:50 PM (45 minutes ago)

Here's a post in character for ya: go fuck yourself, Mordy.

― Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:14 PM (21 minutes ago)

outrage ... privilege ... hateful shit ... power dynamics ... judging you ... i quit ... giant clusterfuck

- white chocolate cheesecake

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r.i.p. noize borad

the enemy list runneth over

fwiw people who are taking life seriously:

Preferences -> View Options -> I Want to Change the Boards Shown on Site New Answers... -> Uncheck "Show?" for this board

I tried to find a picture of th0m y0rke in sexual congress with a frog but google is failing me :(

here's a serious question: can we add a killfile feature to ilx?

did that not happen a million years ago?

someone wrote a firefox extension but its not actually an ilx feature irl

it was my impression that you have to do stuff on the browser end to killfile someone - there isn't just a list you can add a name to. but maybe i'm wrong?

KILLFILE 2.0

having it baked into the site is dumb, fix your own selves

i use safari

http://lifehacker.com/322641/install-greasemonkey-scripts-in-safari-with-greasekit

i support the "suggest killfile" feature where you can choose two posters and eventually force them to killfile each other

i'll give it a try, but fyi greasekit blows and like 80% of greasemonkey scripts i've tried to install have been fail xp

jjj otm

i use an evolved manual version of killfiles where i just try to ignore people who post annoying things so that i don't end up having a serious argument on the internet

I'm also a believer in alternate solutions, like when I had some drinks a few weeks back and found the worst gross-out ilx posts and flagged them to see if I could gross out the mods :)

hahahahahaha that might explain some things

sorry man, I was going to tell you in person but I forgot, lol

i support the "suggest killfile" feature where you can choose two posters and eventually force them to killfile each other

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha

can I get a dillfile I hate pickles

maybe u guys can just bring suggest ban back i miss rage sb'ing ppl. now i go to flag post and i think, "this particular post isn't so bad tbh, i'm more just annoyed by the human being behind it" and don't bother

I am carb free as well so I would like a

millfile

mad god otm