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"Rutger Hauer is very close to unwatchable – a large reason why I can't stand it."


i am banning alfred from life too. and all iranian film fans.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

i always thought most people on ilx were boring non-horror fans anyway. or at least i always wanted to kill myself whenever i read genre film threads.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I really dislike horror films because none of them are very scary to me, sometimes I'll think to rent something like The Wicker Man because it seems funny though, I mean really Nick Cage punching Leelee Sobieski in the face, screaming "BITCHES" while wearing a bear suit--that is good for at least one laugh, in a group setting.

The remake of The Hitcher strikes me as pointless.

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Also there are plenty of people around here who are at least familiar with some of Iran's output. It's just questionable how many of us want to go into a huge thing about it with you, Morbius. Long discussions on ILX with you have gone bad about 9 out of 10 times, for me at least.

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

And NO I'm not trying to start something before one of the geniuses shows up with the "Why are mommy and daddy fighting" comments again ;_1

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Which version did you see, Jaymc? The one with narration or without?

Without. "Director's cut."

I think I've seen two Iranian films? Taste of Cherry was pretty tedious (lol suicide), but The Apple was cute.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Instead of TITs, the orig BLACK CHRISTMAS features gratutitous Kidder "drunk acting school" techniques she would later transform into "unplaceable foreign accent acting school" techniques for SISTERS, only to finally triumph with "I am reallly high right now and reading poetry in space" techniques in SUPER MAN

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

but really, BLACK CHRISTMAS is all about the phone calls, which are really just the "Double Dog Dare" script from CHRISTMAS STORY pitched up a bit

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

and the shots of the plastic girl in the attic

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

"The remake of The Hitcher strikes me as pointless."


plus they already kinda did remake the hitcher in that movie where the two dudes crank call the scary truck driver on a cb radio and he stalks them and mayhem ensues. i liked that one.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

with Leelee Sobieski (sic)! From the guy that made THE LAST SEDUCTION & a bunch of other crap!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

everyone's heard the story about eric red, the dude who wrote the hitcher and near dark, right? plowing his SUV into this place called Q's on wilshire blvd, killing a couple people, and being so fucked up on coke that when he saw what he'd done he picked up a shard of broken glass and slashed himself across the neck with it?

‘•’u (gear), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

i guess he's doing okay now, though.

‘•’u (gear), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think!

[xpost]

whoa

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

!!!
ps: does the BC remake even bother the phone calls?
yeah that Leelee number was a cable flip find

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

this is from an l.a. weekly story last year:

As horror stories often do, this one started with a bump in the gathering night.

At 6:30 p.m. on May 31, 2000, Kenny Hughes had just passed Bundy in West L.A., heading east on Wilshire. A minor celebrity in skate circles, Hughes stands out in any crowd — a 6-foot-5, rail-thin African-American with a bushy Afro, whose small-town North Carolina deference belies a competitive streak which at 26 had won him a sponsorship with DC Shoes and, later, Element Skateboards. According to his police statement, riding next to him in his white 1995 Honda Accord was Aine Behan, his Irish girlfriend, whom he’d just picked up at the airport. Hughes himself was just back from Barcelona, where the skating is good, and was following three friends in the car ahead of him, looking for a motel on their way to Vegas. They made the light. He didn’t.

Locked in animated conversation, neither he nor his girlfriend noticed the 1994 black Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo approaching them from behind. It hit them at a dead stop, doing minor damage to the Honda. Hughes had the presence of mind to set the emergency brake before stepping out of his car, arms out, horizontal at his sides — wassup? — to inspect the damage. Angry, but in control, he walked back to the driver’s-side window of the car. This all took maybe 30 seconds.

“I get up to his car, and he’s slumped over the wheel, looking out the window towards me with his eyes open,” says Hughes today. “And I was probably there for a second, two seconds, and then the car just started moving.”

According to witness statements, the Jeep struck his car a second time, gradually picking up speed, until it jackknifed the Honda into oncoming traffic. Hughes’s girlfriend was still in the car and scrambled out of the moving vehicle, just as the Jeep slipped off its right bumper. No longer impeded by Kenny Hughes’ emergency brake, the Jeep’s RPMs found purchase, and suddenly it was going an estimated 35-40 miles per hour the wrong way across Wilshire, witnesses told police. It jumped the curb and obliterated a bus stop, scooping up 26-year-old Santa Monica City College English student David Roos, who was running for the safety of Q’s Billiards, located at 11835 Wilshire, immediately behind him. Taking out an outdoor patio of tables and scattering bodies — among them, 34-year-old environmental lawyer Noah Baum, there celebrating his first trial victory — the SUV continued unabated through the plate-glass windows and front doors of Q’s, stopping only after it had moved the heavy horseshoe-shaped mahogany bar, beer taps and freezer units several feet. Bar employees later said that from his vantage point on the west patio, Baum was the first to notice the careening car, and the first to recognize it as a potential threat.

Those drinking inside or watching the Knicks game on TV heard what sounded like an explosion, followed by a spray of glass, wood and dirt from a sidewalk planter. Many assumed it was an earthquake or a bomb — though bombs were not quite so plausible back in those pre-9/11 days. In statements to police, several witnesses reported the Jeep’s driver — Eric Red, then 39, the screenwriter of horror film classics The Hitcher and Near Dark 15 years before, and more recently the director of progressively lesser-known horror fare — was unconscious and slumped over in his seat. But others remember him wide awake and staring straight ahead, both before and after the impact. One of these, Jason McCourt, was pinned to the bar and began yelling at Red to back up. Bartender Donal Tavey came over the bar and onto the hood of the Jeep, then tried to help him get it into gear. “He went from ‘park’ to ‘reverse’ and back, then started screaming and shaking his head like he was a little kid,” reads Tavey’s police statement. Others told police that Red was “shouting and flailing his arms around” or “shaking hard and screaming like a lunatic.” Another bartender got Red out of the Jeep and popped it into neutral, after which the crowd managed to rock it back off the bar. Miraculously, McCourt was alive, getting off with a broken leg and fractures to his hips and pelvis. But immediately below him, Baum was crushed into a sitting position. Ann Blackburn, a nurse, examined Baum within minutes and reported he was dead at the scene, although she continued CPR until an ambulance arrived.

Rather amazingly, three retired FBI agents — Mike Wacks, Fred Ahles and Richard “Bucky” Sadler — were drinking at the southwest corner of the bar, about three feet from the point of impact. None will comment on the record today, but in his police statement, Wacks — who was once assigned to a detail investigating Carlos Marcello, the notorious New Orleans mob boss widely implicated in the Kennedy assassination — stated: “I looked at the driver after the crash and he appeared awake and alert. It was like he was just a guy in the bar. There was no look of surprise or shock on his face at all.” Sadler’s statement quotes Red as saying, “Is everybody okay? Did I hurt anybody? I didn’t mean to kill anybody.”

Still holding his car keys in his left hand, and bleeding from a small cut on his right eyebrow, Red walked a ways from the vehicle, just in time for Cassady Jeremias, one of Kenny Hughes’ friends in the car ahead of him, to see him pick up a sharp stick and begin ramming it into his chest. Interviewed recently, she remembers thinking, “Well, who’s this joker — he’s not going to kill himself with a stick jabbing himself in the chest?” Undaunted, Red picked up a broken glass off the floor, approximately two inches thick, and slashed once at his neck, cutting it deeply. According to the police report, kitchen worker Ray Garcia and several patrons wrestled him to the ground, then tied a waiter’s apron around his throat to stanch the flow of blood and covered him with a tablecloth to prevent shock. Red continued to speak, telling Wacks, “Don’t bother, I just want to die,” and Garcia, “Don’t bother with me, I’m not worth living.” Alan Levy, who was headed eastbound several cars behind Red and saw the whole thing, told police, “This looked like road rage to me.” And in a follow-up police phone call, bartender Tavey claimed he believed the collision was an intentional act.

‘•’u (gear), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

W.T.F.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Despite what I said earlier, he looks great here:

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/TopFilms/Hauer/HauerFloris.jpg

A German-language Crimson Pirate?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

someone pls to embed the spinning rutger hauer face cube as seen on this page:

http://www.rutgerhauer.org/submenues/picgalleries.php

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Dave, Red Rock West is not "a bunch of other crap."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

... I didn't even know Rutger Hauer was in Batman Begins until I saw the credits.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ha - forgot about that one! FWIW, I was thinking of ROUNDERS & UNFORGETTABLE.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've seen two Iranian films? Taste of Cherry was pretty tedious (lol suicide), but The Apple was cute.

Wrong and wronger.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, I thought you were talking about that damned disco musical everyone here loves for God knows why.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think you guys are missing the craziest part of the hitcher-writer story which is that he was found innocent and then I think he wrote a screenplay about somebody mowing down people with his car or something fucked up like that.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

Good Morning (took a loooong time to get going, but cute)

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

Check out Eric Red's latest project:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800366/

milo z (mlp), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Los Angeles County authorities ultimately declined to file criminal charges against Red due to insufficient evidence, but Red's driver's license was suspended indefinitely as a consequence of his "negligently causing or contributing to a fatal accident.""

Insufficient evidence???

milo z (mlp), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

i LOVE body parts, i LOVE the hitcher, and i LOVE near dark, but the dude wrote blue steel and boy is that movie a stinker. he didn't write the screenplay though. maybe it wasn't his fault. i blame bigelow.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

I was surprised just how contrived Blue Steel.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

..was

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite part was probable when a bare-ass naked Ron Silver covered in blood leaps through a window in NYC and when Jamie Lee Curtis runs after him two cops at the bottom of the fire escape yell "he got away!"

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

"a bare-ass naked Ron Silver"

yeah, see, that right there...

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

they never really explain how Ron shows up later in some ratty old clothes, sadly no deleted scene for that one.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

homeboy was great in Timecop

latebloomer needs to be less crappy (latebloomer), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Saw Idiocracy last night. A few laughs, could've (actually, compared to everything else Mike Judge has done, should've) been much better. It was so fucking short, wtf? May watch again in 5 years to remind myself if it was any good, I will probably be disappointed then, too.

a magical moment with unicorns dancing around you (nickalicious), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Inland Empire (repeat)
The Dreamers (repeat)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

united 93. why the fuck did i ever watch that?

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

the president in idiocracy was the best part

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

princess raccoon -- totally nutso. lotsa fun. for all fans of loopy japanese pop-rock operettas starring zhang ziyi as a small furry mammal.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

cutty otm! i so would want that president instead of fucking dubya

feed latebloomer to the Sharkicons (latebloomer), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

whoa that sentence did not come out right

feed latebloomer to the Sharkicons (latebloomer), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't realize princess raccoon was out, awesome

trans pacific donkey cell phone (sleep), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

oo!!!

UART variations (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

restored print of El Topo at the Castro tonite at 7pm for SF noizers . . .

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 20 January 2007 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

wow, i would go to that. i've never seen it on the big screen.


i might go this weekend to see a hi-def showing of the metropolitan opera on the big screen. er, i can't remember what opera it is. something italian. sounds like it could be neat to see though. or different anyway.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 20 January 2007 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

Breakfast On Pluto
Saw III

Zwan (miccio), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

how was saw III? worse than II? the first one was pretty funny

feed latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I was consistently entertained, if never particularly impressed.

Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 21 January 2007 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

I was also stoned, though.

Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 21 January 2007 02:37 (nineteen years ago)


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