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okay, you can stop now.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's simply a very good, bleak action movie to everyone but teens and nerds.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^^^ OTM X 100 ^^^^^^^^^^^

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Rutger Hauer is very close to unwatchable – a large reason why I can't stand it.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^^^ NOT OTM X 100 ^^^^^^^^^^^

Though "Just Die Already, Rutger Hauer" would be a good title for many movies he has been in.

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I did like the creepazoid sexual tension between him and Daryl Hannah-as-Ziggy Stardust.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

but do you even like action movies in the first place??

― rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

No. I thought it was supposed to be a smart sci-fi movie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

uggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you were right that you shouldn't have brought it up if you think "action movie" and "smart sci-fi" are two separate things.

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think they're mutually exclusive, I just mean I probably wasn't aware of the degree to which it was ALSO an action movie, oftentimes at the EXPENSE of all else.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

JUST STOP. Anyway, I'm going to watch Crank next!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

The thing is, I was really looking forward to it, and partially because I liked A.I. and Minority Report.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

What, in specific terms, were you expecting from this movie? I'm not sure how it differs from Minority Report in terms of being an action movie. If you were expecting something like Gattaca, then I could understand being surprised by it, but Minority Report?

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Though "Just Die Already, Rutger Hauer" would be a good title for many movies he has been in.

EXCEPT THE HITCHER

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of rutger hauer, does anyone remember the original Hitcher with him in it? i remember seeing it when i was in like 7th grade or something and it scared the piss out of me. my heart kind of shrinks a little whenever i see a commercial for the re-make, there's no way it will scare me as much.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

WHOA!

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

The War Room (omg best movie ever obv). I hadn't realized that it features a young Mark Halperin doing his Al Gore impression.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

The Hitcher is a very good movie, i watch it often. i dont think theyll be able to recreate the air of 4am exhaustion in the remake though, thats what made the original special

― PRKLTR (flezaffe), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

The War Room (omg best movie ever obv).

This is really weird that you mention this, because I was walking to the train this morning and thinking "You know what, I never saw The War Room, maybe I should put that on my Netflix queue."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Also: Ally, I seem to remember more intriguing twists from Minority Report. It's been a while, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

well it's the best movie ever because this is gabbneb talking, but it really is very good as that sort of thing goes, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a screenwriter to match carville

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

well it's the best movie ever because this is gabbneb talking

Yeah, that sort of went without saying.

My girlfriend is kind of a political junkie, too, though, and loves Carville -- so I figured it'd be something we could watch together.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Rutger Hauer is the bomb.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck Sheen Bean.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

The worst thing about the HITCHER remake (that I gather from the trailer): instead of the hitcher antagonizing the boy (interesting macho / homoerotic subtext!), it's just dude fucking w/ the girl (booooooooring pseudo-slasher bullshit). SEAN BEAN GET ONE MOVIE.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Which version did you see, Jaymc? The one with narration or without? (I actually saw both versions in school, the studio cut ironically enough in a Directing class because the teacher was that fucking clueless). I'm with Morb (??) on the whole action movie thing, re: the director's cut.

x-post I've seen enough of them to tell that if they finally a remake of a horror movie I haven't seen, all that means is I have to go see the original.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

re Rutger Hauer, srch Soldier of Orange (ie, before he became a Walkenlike joke)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

instead of the hitcher antagonizing the boy (interesting macho / homoerotic subtext!), it's just dude fucking w/ the girl (booooooooring pseudo-slasher bullshit).

ugh. that makes my heart shrink and frown.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

These folks fucking w/ 70s / 80s horror movie remakes need to wise the fuck up.

"What was wrong w/ the original BLACK CHRISTMAS? Oh, yeah - not enough gore & tittays!"

"What was wrong w/ the original HITCHER? Oh, yeah - too gay!"

I hope any HALLOWEEN remake replaces the Shatner mask & jumpsuit w/ a polyurethane Q-Bert costume.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

the original hithcer is brilliant. they will ruin it. because that is what they do.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

"What was wrong w/ the original BLACK CHRISTMAS? Oh, yeah - not enough gore & tittays!"

actually, I do kinda want to see that one.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I like my gore and tittays in seperate scenes, though.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i won't even watch black christmas re-make. no margot kidder no credibility

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

"I like my gore and tittays in seperate scenes, though."

loser

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Morb, is that Hauer flick one of the early Verhoeven movies? I vaguely remember some footage of RH jerking off in that Channel Z doc (because I remember stuff like that).

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Turkish Delight. Evidently the Dutch Love Story or something. Sorta need to see it.

I actually liked the first half of the When A Stranger Calls remake. It's all obnoxious score and long shots in a house designed for maximum ominous shadow.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

The Verhoeven/Hauer flick is Turkish Delight, in case I wasn't clear.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

DR, but I think yr talkin about Spetters -- SOO is a jerkin-free WW2 movie. so they made at least 3 together in Holland?

God, all that horror garbage, no wonder no one watches Iranian films around here.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

if you're keeping score, that's,
Dr Morbius - Iranian films
rest of ILX - all that horror garbage

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

when the iranians make a good zombie movie, call me.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

"Rutger Hauer is very close to unwatchable – a large reason why I can't stand it."

i am banning alfred from life too. and all iranian film fans.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

i always thought most people on ilx were boring non-horror fans anyway. or at least i always wanted to kill myself whenever i read genre film threads.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I really dislike horror films because none of them are very scary to me, sometimes I'll think to rent something like The Wicker Man because it seems funny though, I mean really Nick Cage punching Leelee Sobieski in the face, screaming "BITCHES" while wearing a bear suit--that is good for at least one laugh, in a group setting.

The remake of The Hitcher strikes me as pointless.

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Also there are plenty of people around here who are at least familiar with some of Iran's output. It's just questionable how many of us want to go into a huge thing about it with you, Morbius. Long discussions on ILX with you have gone bad about 9 out of 10 times, for me at least.

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

And NO I'm not trying to start something before one of the geniuses shows up with the "Why are mommy and daddy fighting" comments again ;_1

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Which version did you see, Jaymc? The one with narration or without?

Without. "Director's cut."

I think I've seen two Iranian films? Taste of Cherry was pretty tedious (lol suicide), but The Apple was cute.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Instead of TITs, the orig BLACK CHRISTMAS features gratutitous Kidder "drunk acting school" techniques she would later transform into "unplaceable foreign accent acting school" techniques for SISTERS, only to finally triumph with "I am reallly high right now and reading poetry in space" techniques in SUPER MAN

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

but really, BLACK CHRISTMAS is all about the phone calls, which are really just the "Double Dog Dare" script from CHRISTMAS STORY pitched up a bit

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

and the shots of the plastic girl in the attic

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

"The remake of The Hitcher strikes me as pointless."

plus they already kinda did remake the hitcher in that movie where the two dudes crank call the scary truck driver on a cb radio and he stalks them and mayhem ensues. i liked that one.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

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