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The only good Barth I've read has been The Sot-Weed Factor. Everything else has been cutesy indie rock shit.

Currently reading PAMELA which is v good and Watson's book about Zappa which is slightly less good. Also The Book of Margery Kempe which is not by choice and less good (or at least less interesting) than all three of the above.

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:36 (twenty years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0752860399.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:02 (twenty years ago)

jimmy mcdonough's bio of andy milligan
saramago "blindness"
mailer "the naked and the dead"
howard "conan the conqueror"

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:41 (twenty years ago)

i just read "the three stigmata of eldritch palmer" in one evening. did a lot better than when i was a sixth-grader. i think i stopped "getting it" sometime around the sixth or seventh chapter back then ... this time i could follow it almost all the way to the end. i got more of the jokes and references this time around, too. particularly the dirty ones and the ones about religion. weird, that.

now back to "miles runs the voodoo down" (phil d freeman is the shit!)

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 05:17 (twenty years ago)

hmm...I almosted posted this on the enemies list yesterday:

The Plugged Nickel box is amazing, most of all because Miles is the weakest link in the band a lot of the time (and I really don't like Wayne Shorter very much at all).
-- pdf

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 09:10 (twenty years ago)

http://www.zaalbooks.nl/BookImages/1068.jpg

― and what (ooo), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:40 (twenty years ago)

http://pictures.abebooks.com/COPPERHILLBOOKS/438781610.jpg

― and what (ooo), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:41 (twenty years ago)

The only good Barth I've read has been The Sot-Weed Factor. Everything else has been cutesy indie rock shit.

YA RLY. anything that can be described as "smart and funny" usually doesn't sit well with me.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:43 (twenty years ago)

well, not anything. i just have some specific, annoying writers in mind.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)

First part of Chimera is pretty great.

― danski (danski), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

kevin lynch's the image of the city, which is on my summer reading list for school. i bought it today at the art/architecture bookstore on wilshire in santa monica.

― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 8 June 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)

that looks like a good read. please give update when finished.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:41 (twenty years ago)

http://www.curthoppe.com/Penthouse_letters.jpg

― Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:46 (twenty years ago)

my dad reads those

― i shouldn't know this (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

that looks like a good read. please give update when finished.

the "image" he means is kind of a photographic image people mentally take of cities as they walk around them and navigate them -- a kind of moment-to-moment spatial analysis, or the way people are able to figure out/remember directions by recalling notable buildings and intersections and public spaces, and how dead areas and drab neighborhoods without any real nodes of activity make it easier for visitors to get lost. he looks at cities very systemically, by going into detail and then asking how those details function within the larger system. only problem from the reader's end is that it was written in 1960 and some of the places he's talked about have changed or are undergoing changes. what he writes about is still very relevant though.

― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:02 (twenty years ago)

jameson talks about that book in his postmodernism book. he draws kind of a tardish (like duh, but also wrong) conclusion from it though. i want to read books about cities/buildings but not that one. a different one.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:51 (twenty years ago)

JBR: THAT WAS FAST
CAITLIN: HUH? my favorite book about cities is Invisible Cities (Calvino). read that one.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)

I DON'T LIKE CALVINO, BARELY AT ALL. is it nonfiction though? the only thing i have read by him is the one about the winter night and the traveler and i got 2/3 done and i was like fuck, i don't even like this, so boring. then i quit. i like realism.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:55 (twenty years ago)

ok, you won't like invisible cities.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:56 (twenty years ago)

i don't know what kind of book about cities i want though. i want to know about architecture and poor people and politics. i don't mean like mike davis (is that his name i forgot), that guy that writes about slums and stuff, i mean like stuff about cities that is like, harder to read.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:59 (twenty years ago)

i liked this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262024519/103-3321431-1142242?v=glance&n=283155

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 03:03 (twenty years ago)

what about de Certeau's 'The Practice of Everyday Life'? or Henri Lefebvre's 'The Production of Space'? might be up your alley. I've never read 'em though. I just know they are supposed to be "the shit". and like hard and stuff.

I am reading the Peter Green biography (still). I bought Alan Lomax's 'Where the Blues Began' for cheap at the book fair on Sunday, and I hope to finish the Green and start the Lomax before the blues fest starts on Friday.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 8 June 2006 03:08 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah! those were both on my mental list and i forgot them. i think i would really like lefebvre but i don't know very much about certeau. i think adamrl read that book.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 03:29 (twenty years ago)

i like pretty girls.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

ok I like books AND pretty girls.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:34 (twenty years ago)

Its allaout the plightofconcering art verys love in humun bonage.philipcaresthe doctorsdaughterbecauceshepovide

I AM AN ASSHOLE.

duh.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:40 (twenty years ago)

those were my drunk roommate.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:55 (twenty years ago)

she's a funny one, she is.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:55 (twenty years ago)

finished the frank kogan book. now onto THE UNB EARABLE LIGHTNESS OF BEING

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:30 (twenty years ago)

a man without a country
david boring
ice haven
identity crisis
the metamorphosis (comic version)
.net gotchas
ajax hacks
c# cookbook
xpath
xslt 2.0

― msp (mspa), Thursday, 8 June 2006 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Ball Four (in anticipation of meeting the author in 3 weeks)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:38 (twenty years ago)

wtf @ dissing barth & loving calvino

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:08 (twenty years ago)

i like italians.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:28 (twenty years ago)

winters night is one f the worst books i ever read

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:30 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i said i like invisible cities brah. dunno about that other shit.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:31 (twenty years ago)

i have some issues with imagined cities. ones i've dreamt about while asleep, etc, so i'm partial to anything about Cities being Invisible.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:32 (twenty years ago)

new george saunders

prometheus + seven against thebes - aesychlus

turn of the screw - henry james

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:33 (twenty years ago)

henry james >>>> everybody else on this thread

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Calvino sucks a million dicks.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:00 (twenty years ago)

thank u

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

i always imagine him as the sleazy dude from the onion 'european men are so romantic' point-counterpoint

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:08 (twenty years ago)

I have this idea of him as a Eurotrash David Foster Wallace, which is pretty much the same thing.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:14 (twenty years ago)

henry james is boring

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

actually the only guy i like is balzac

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:26 (twenty years ago)

calvino's collection of italian folktales is great.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:34 (twenty years ago)

what james have you read?

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

(i am only being contentious and really don't have that strong of an opinion on henry james). i have read 2 things by him (long time ago) but i forgot what they were. i think daisy miller? and something else. i don't like stuff from that period usually, though. i really do like balzac! and flaubert.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)

but what about invisible cities? do you hate that too (addressed to everyone who dissed calvino)? that's the only one i like.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:47 (twenty years ago)

i love balzac & flaubert

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:49 (twenty years ago)

if you had to read james for jr high/high school, then i'm not surprised if you hate him (though you might hate him no matter what- who knows?) as he's one of the most badly-taught authors.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

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