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chick lit is for MOMS.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:50 (twenty years ago)

hahaha! so not true.

xp

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

there is a special category of chick lit for moms, called Mom Lit. The Red Tent, Lovely Bones, that one about the Bees, etc. i know this because of my mom's book club.

killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)

i think my mom reads that stuff, maybe even my dad. i really can't tell what's chick lit and what's not anymore.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that is way more "On The Money".

xp

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Adam, what was she doing in children's books?? Inquiring kids' lit publishing minds want to know!

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm talking like contemporary women's fiction about relationships and shit. The stuff you see 20something gals in fancy boots reading on BART. Anyway, I think her book is good but I would say that. It's with two agents right now and I would pray for it if I were in any way religious.

xp
She worked for a "boutique" children's publisher in London, then she worked for horrible college textbook publisher, now she is assistant to big literary agent who does mostly non-fiction, some movie stuff.

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

How was the boutique house to work for? I have thought of going that route...

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

shopaholic & sister?
the devil wears prada? xpost

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

my mom loves david sedaris, is he chick lit? i don't really know anything about him, mostly because i am a snob

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

no, he's not really chick lit. he's always on This American Life, reading passages from his books in a nasal voice.

killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

David Sedaris is not chick lit. Ian has it in two.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Also, Caitlin, I think that makes your mom pretty cool.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

my mom is cool, sometimes.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)

(yay, i was looking forward to jack cole posting to this thread.)

i love love love most of the bands in reynolds book but can't bring myself to read it. i don't have a well thought out reason why other than i think i'm getting totally burnt out on music-related writing. (disturbing considering that i write about music a wee bit. getting burnt out on that too. getting burnt out on just about everything tho.)

i went to elementary school in ohio. it's a quality place to learn to cross the street on your own. it's where i started my addiction to elephant ears too.
m.

msp (mspa), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

The Lovely Bones is a horrible book.

that one about the Bees

There are two. Bee Season and The Secret Life of Bees. I think one is supposed to be more okay than the other, but I can't tell them apart.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)

it's where i started my addiction to elephant ears too.

OH MY GOD yes absolutely. You know they don't have elephant ears in the Tri-State area/Jersey Shore, right? They have funnel cakes, instead, which I just don't like as well. And then up in Boston and related parts I'm told they have "fried dough", which doesn't seem terribly specific but then I've never tried it. I have elephant ears once a year at a certain festival in September, only time I can find 'em.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)

all lit is chick lit

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)

How was the boutique house to work for? I have thought of going that route...

she loved it

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, when we moved to upstate ny i was pretty pissed off at the whole funnel cake thing.

i'm thinking fried dough might actually be elephant ears, but i've never tried that either.

usually i just placate my needs with a cinnamon twisty donut. sort of a methadone treatment, but...

okay, i'm gonna have to leave the office now.
m.

msp (mspa), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

in rhode island we have "dough boys."

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

i was 1/2 way through 'my search for patty hearst'

this book was so disappointing! more patty and martha mitchell, less memoit PLEASE.

i got an elephant ear at my local diner. which is tri-state area.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Roze, I'd ask you to mail me one but the lovely greasy crunch would suffer, I think. Do they offer apple-cinnamon topping? MY FAVORITE.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

books about the web are OUT OF DATE AKA "TIRED"

So's the web site I work on but am I authorized to change that? nope...

Also reading: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/159253192X.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

It's OK, could've used a good copy editor on the theory section, but I plan on returning it to Borders after reading through anyways.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:53 (twenty years ago)

i dont think of the fall as punk

or postpunk

terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:31 (twenty years ago)

I liked the SR book, but I can't be bothered to get upset if something is deemed punk or post-punk or what have you, so maybe that's why?

I think once I finish the current batch of library books, I'm going to get the Peter Shapiro book, and read all the disco/dance books mentioned on the ILM thread. Except the Mel Cheren book, 'cause my library system doesn't have it. (But they do have the Albert Goldman!)

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Surely, Live at the Witch Trials is a punk record.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Gharbzadegi by Jalal Ali Ahmad

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:38 (twenty years ago)

you're probably right, i dont mind!

terry lennox, (gareth), Friday, 10 March 2006 09:40 (twenty years ago)

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Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 10 March 2006 10:09 (twenty years ago)

D'oh. That was supposed to be the cover of Alain Badiou's "Being and Event"

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 10 March 2006 10:09 (twenty years ago)

today i bought:

david lodge "small world" (the sequel to a book I thought was HILARIOUS)
THE BEST OF FRITZ LEIBER!! (i love pulp; introduction by Poul Anderson!)
h.l. mencken "A Gang of Pecksniffs" (about the newspaper world. love this dude, also.)

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Saturday, 11 March 2006 04:31 (twenty years ago)

god that simon reynolds book about post-punk was a piece of shit. my favorite moments were his chapter's on pre-punk bands being shoehorned into his post-punk frame. also, learn like one thing about ohio besides Pere Ubu and Devo, thanks!

Jack Cole (jackcole), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

mencken was a krautrokker:

"There are, indeed, only two kinds of music: German music and bad music."

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

best mencken music quote though:

"Of Schubert I hesitate to speak. The fellow was scarcely human. His merest belch was as lovely as the song of the sirens. He sweated beauty as naturally as a Christian sweats hate."

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

haha. roffles. i love mencken. he's so much fun to read.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Delta Wedding by Eudora Welty, 1945

Delta Wedding by Eudora Welty creatively unfolds through the overheard thoughts of the members of the Fairchild family. The oversized clan deals with a massive amount of external and internal issues that focus on both the unity and the conflict within this tight-knit Southern family. This novel does not focus on one person, place, or thing. The protagonist of Delta Wedding is the Fairchild family in that the author tells the story through the voices of the entire family. However, the character of George does stand out as the hero of the novel.

George Fairchild is the only family member in touch with reality, and he appears to be a knight in shining armor. Everyone is drawn to George. George has separated himself from the clan by moving away from the dynasty, and he has learned to differentiate the family members from the family as a whole. George Fairchild is the only character in the novel who has learned the value of love and honor above all else.

George's life had taken on a new meaning when he met the love of his life, Robbie Reid. He had stepped over the boundary, defied the Fairchilds, and married Robbie, a woman whom the family perceived as a threat to their social position, even more so than Dabney’s betrothed Troy. Before Robbie's marriage to George she was a clerk at Fairchilds, the family's store. It isn't as embarrassing or unbecoming for Dabney to marry Troy because his background isn't well known, and Troy has been quick in learning to imitate Battle's every move. Battle will quickly move Troy up the ladder of success, whereas Robbie is a local girl whose background is impossible to hide. Robbie refuses to conform to the Fairchild traditions, she is considered to be an unfit wife for the magnificent George, and she has been a life long neighbor.

Dabney is most able to understand George’s separateness in that she is greatly concerned about her family’s dislike for Troy and the implications it may have on her life. Dabney fears the price she will pay for the betrayal will be more than she can bear. The Fairchild family does not invite outsiders and Troy is an outsider. He has been raised deep in the backwoods, and he is an employee of the Fairchilds. Considering Troy's background and lack of social standing, Dabney believes at times that she is betraying Fairchild by marrying “below” her social class. Dabney is aware that her father does not want her to go. She also knows one cannot escape being a Fairchild, but Dabney wants her freedom. Before the wedding she reflects on how protected she has been up until now, and Dabney feels the marriage will give her the freedom to face the real world, just as George found a similar courage within.

The dislike between Robbie and the family is mutual. Aunt Mac criticizes Robbie and Robbie strikes back: " 'Aunt Mac Fairchild!' said Robbie, 'You're all spoiled, stuck-up family that thinks nobody else is really in the world! But they are!'" Robbie is possessive and jealous, and George's family is equally possessive and jealous. Robbie is the ultimate outsider that the family loves to hate.

The family's thoughts concerning the invasive outsiders are opinionated and judgmental. The Fairchilds are protected by a self-made boundary that secures them from the outside world. Throughout this novel one discovers the family members often consider themselves as outsiders. Ellen, the wife of Battle Fairchild, is a twenty-year outsider member of this dynasty and knows the frustration of trying to become one of the Fairchilds. Robbie, the wife of George Fairchild, is an embarrassment to the family and will always be considered an outsider. Troy, the outsider-to-be, is judged as unsuitable marriage material for Dabney. And little Laura, the orphaned Fairchild, is treated as if she does not exist. The sight of Laura brings back memories of her mother, and the memories bring pain. In this story one has the opportunity to experience a family dealing with its own world in its own way. The novel Delta Wedding shares a family's struggle with conflict and compassion within the family unit, within the individual, and within the outsiders trying to penetrate the family's secure boundary.

A complexity of boundaries is found within each family member and encircling the Fairchild family as a whole, however George has been able to cross these boundaries both in physical sense and in an emotional one. He has separated himself as much as possible from the ties that sought to bind him to family tradition. These boundaries hold the family in a somewhat balanced world, and an outsider's intrusion into their world threatens the balanced security. George’s separation from the family is therefore indicative of his separation with the family’s narrow-minded attitudes as well.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:17 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0471648493.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

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http://www.paperview.com/store/images/categories/abebarthesfashion.JPG

elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

gettin into the casual wear groove, eh?

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:34 (twenty years ago)

fo sho

elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

what a coincidence, i'm reading:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671717820.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
and
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/imageDB.cgi?isbn=0374521611

killy (baby lenin pin), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cmgww.com/historic/twain/twnm003.jpg

i've been all up in his head space for a few months now

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:56 (twenty years ago)

the unbearable lightness of being by milan kundera.

up next some turgenev or some proust.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Saturday, 25 March 2006 04:07 (twenty years ago)

Dude, that book is not an upper.

Laura H. (laurah), Saturday, 25 March 2006 08:28 (twenty years ago)

ian, have you read gogol? i much prefer him to turgenev

reminds me, i should read the new pelevin.

charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 25 March 2006 09:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/x0/x4997.jpg

surprisingly gd bk abt one 'the Beckett of Hammersmith'- a bk that acknowledges the compromise - lies - of literary biog but still knuckles down to telling the story of johnson's life, which ended w/ his suicide in 1973 at the age of 40 - written w/ wit and intelligence and great sympathy

also read hammer of the gds by stephen davis, notorious bk abt led zeppelin - terrible but compulsively readable

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 25 March 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

im tempted by this: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0801870879.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

what im really looking for is a decent book about hawaiian music of the 20s or 30s, but, in the meantime, any recommendations of prewar pop music would be great

charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 25 March 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)

i have read some gogol, gareth. i almost bought dead souls yesterday, actually, but it seemed so long and brutal. i like his short stories, though.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Saturday, 25 March 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)

about to start Tom Perrota's Little Children

plus the 2 new Baseball Prospectus books, obv

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)


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