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YEAH THATS THE MUSEUM I SAW HER IN FRONT OF.

ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

email details, dan. won't be able to make it tonite, tho - have to dog-sit in harlem again.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

thanks dan! my friend melanie works at MCNY in the library, i love that place.

also good luck with your move, i live on the woodside-astoria border but (i think?) you are really close to where my friend shannon just moved AND ALSO some awesome delicious food places.

bell labs (bell_labs), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)

yeah...we visited Sunnyside for the first time a month or so ago and fell in love with it. It's beautiful and pretty awesome. Woodside isn't as pretty, but has even more food options, and a few more blocks to little india in Jackson Heights.

People, Sunnyside is just cross the creek from Greenpoint. Move to Queens already. Brooklyn is over. Done. They're trying to rent my apt for 1750$!!!!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

new york is done.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:54 (twenty years ago)

HPENCIL IS DONE!

lord pooperton (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Sunnyside, where the Mexican restaraunts serve Irish Breakfast.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:00 (twenty years ago)

i thought you might be making a run to Forest Hills, ancestral home of teh Ramones

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Scrabble was invented in Jackson Heights. I don't live there though.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

hey all, this is our little sale thing. I'm gonna try to dig up a few goodies amidst the junk to make it worth your while. I dunno, I gots some back issues of Mojo, a few CDr mixes I made to DJ with, I may even give away a bunch of CDrs/mixes I have, stuff that's already in the computer and I just don't need that CD anymore. Seriously, some decent stuff. I even have 1 or 2 CDs on FREEK records, for the noise boarder in you.

LEAVING BROOKLYN SALE

471 HUMBOLDT ST (BTWN FROST AND RICHARDSON)
SUNDAY JUNE 18TH @ NOON

CHEAP
DRESSERS
DESKS
SHELVES

VERY CHEAP (maybe even free…)
VHS COLLECTION
CD RACK
BOOKS
RECORDS
MAGAZINES
FEATHER BOAS
BELTS / ACCESSORIES

NEVER USED
CANDLES
STATIONARY
TOYS
OTHER GIFT ITEMS

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 16 June 2006 03:39 (twenty years ago)

oh drats, i will only be in brooklyn on saturday

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 16 June 2006 04:01 (twenty years ago)

Can I subvert the Q&A format for a second to thank Dan for recommending that Magazine album? Because it's fab and I would never have heard it otherwise.

xoL

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

no problem. I've never heard the 4th, but the first 2 albums are amazing as well, and totally different from the Correct Use of Soap. Real Life, the first is really punky, but one of the first statements of post-punk...artier, more intense etc. The follow-up, Secondhand Daylight, is super dour, intense, driving, a bit Joy Division-y. Some synths and horns, but not as poppy or elegantly produced as Correct Use of Soap. It probably contains my fave Magazine son, Rhythm of Cruelty and Believe That I Understand, the chorus to which is, "Another sick monkey with a saintly face" according to some lyrics website. I always thought it was "sailor's face", which is way creepier.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:03 (twenty years ago)

the only album i have is the last one (Magic, Murder and the Weather). it was so boring i never bothered to find other ones.

jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

wtf dan since when have you been over on humboldt?!?!?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:33 (twenty years ago)

I've never even heard the last album because most people say it's no good. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, if in this case, bathwater = the awesome first 3 Magazine records!

Nicole lives on Humboldt. I'm over there plenty. And Rebecca lived around the corner, and Jen Blk, Gabe. Everyone lives over there.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

yeah no shit, i live just across the bqe from there, basically.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

okay dudes, pulling out records now, and you know what? I'm pulling lots of classic 1995 noise shit, hstencil knows what I'm talking about. Trying to avoid stuff on New World o' Sound or Fusetron in case they come by! No really, like Ascension and Doo Rag. My rule is, to get decent record for next to nothing, you have to take a crappy one. Maybe.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

dan, djing is stupid

jäxøñ (jaxon), Sunday, 18 June 2006 06:39 (twenty years ago)

Doo Rag was great live, though their record's sucked.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 18 June 2006 07:08 (twenty years ago)

The Doo Rag record went to my friend who helped me move, mostly because his friend's friend was in the band. I just remember them being a pretty weird band for the time. Like now, it wouldn't be so suprising, but then?

DJing is stupid. But we do it. You know why? Because....

a) Sometimes the sound is good and you get to play your records at incredibly loud volumes

b) Sometimes everyone has the best time in their life and with a flick of the switch or the turn of a knob, 100s, dozens, or just a few people scream at the top of their lungs because they've never had such fun and you feel so powerful to cause this reaction even though all you did was turn up the volume.

c) Sometimes girls you've never seen before walk up to you and say nice things.

That about sums it up.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:40 (twenty years ago)

dan, how would you rank this list of dj'ing venues in order from most to least respectable:

pizza parlor
record store backroom performance space
hipster bar
house party
yuppie booze cruise
loft that normally hosts noise dude performances

serious inquiry. thank you.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:49 (twenty years ago)

loft that normally hosts noise dude performances
house party
pizza parlor
yuppie booze cruise
record store backroom performance space
hipster bar


lf (lfam), Monday, 19 June 2006 02:45 (twenty years ago)

i counter:
yuppie booze cruise
house party
pizza parlor
record store
hipster bar

i could play 'white soul' (whatever that is) all night and get away with it on a yuppie booze cruise. plus, open water...mmmm.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:37 (twenty years ago)

what is 'respectable'?

noise dude loft spaces (i'm sure) and house parties are often the best places, but a yuppie booze cruise? that'd be totally fucking awesome! i guess that i think mainly of aging yuppies, though, and one could just play tons of soul and funk and disco and they'd dig it, especially if the bar was stacked.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:42 (twenty years ago)

a) Sometimes the sound is good and you get to play your records at incredibly loud volumes

OTM. hearing mike s. blast maximum joy's stretch is an entirely different experience than playing it at home. particularly the screams.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 19 June 2006 11:38 (twenty years ago)

i'm hoping for the yuppie booze cruise, but i expect to be stuck with the pizza parlor.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 June 2006 12:31 (twenty years ago)

house party (so long as you're not plugged into the stereo)
loft that normally hosts noise dude performances (depends on whether noise dudes show up and how drunk they are)
yuppie booze cruise
pizza parlor
hipster bar
record store backroom performance space

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 19 June 2006 13:43 (twenty years ago)

does capone's count as a pizza parlor?

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 19 June 2006 13:56 (twenty years ago)

sorry dan, felt ill.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:17 (twenty years ago)

no problem, we did well in the end. Got rid of tons of crap and made a bit of money.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

i was at Bleecker Boob's today and saw those megamixed acid house records you talked about on some thread.

what use are they? i can see how radio DJs could have used them but it doesnt seem like collectors would go for them and i dont see how a live DJ could pass off someone elses mix as their own.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Which ones, there's millions of all different genres for different purposes. You can go all the way back to Stars on 45, but in the dance context, I think some of it was either aimed at lazy club owners/djs, or just to show off. Stuff like Disconet year-end medleys certainly weren't created for the home market. But there are plenty of comps that were, like "recreate the exciting sound of the club in you home" or whatever. I mean, people still buy mix CDs/tapes all the time. Whenever there's a brooklyn street fair I always check to see what's on the CD mixes they sell at the stands, that's for the car, no doubt.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:28 (twenty years ago)

daerest dan,

in your experience, will a crowd of indie kids who are, let's say, less educated in the ways of the dahnce musics be more forgiving of crap mixing? I figure if the tunes are good enough I miiiiight be able to get away with it on saturday night with no practice. am I deluding myself?

u feel me,

indie disco dancer, sweet romancer (haitch), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 03:38 (twenty years ago)

indie kids don't notice bad mixing. they don't even know what mixing is. they just want to hear their favorite songs.

those songs are Common People by Pulp, Since You've Been Gone by Kelly Clarkson, and that's it.

though good mixing always makes it easier to keep people dancing.

in that ongoing and idiotic debate about beatmatching, people seem to forget that it just makes the transition less jarring. It's really not complicated. But it's not like you're gonna fool them into dancing to something they don't like. If you've got that crowd who only wants to hear what they know and love, it doesn't matter how smoothly you mix Blue Monday into soon as they realize it ain't Blue Monday, it's back to the seats for them.

But if you really trainwreck, you can ruin the party for anyone who wants a little more then a jukebox, I mean I've been dancing to my favorite song and it trainwrecks into another favorite song and been forced to stop dancing, because the beats are all fucked, you know?

If you can't beatmatch, DON'T play both songs at the same time, quickly fade from one to another. Or quickly fade the first one out then immediately start the next one. Or even better, have the second record cued up and spinning but held in place, at a good moment on the first record, just hit the stop button. Wait 1 second. Let go of second record.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:02 (twenty years ago)

those songs are Common People by Pulp, Since You've Been Gone by Kelly Clarkson, and that's it.

hahaha oh shit. at least I have a few versions of 'blue monday'!

indie disco dancer, sweet romancer (haitch), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:10 (twenty years ago)

Since You've Been Gone by Kelly Clarkson

robble at Steve Shasta

jäxøñ (jaxon), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:28 (twenty years ago)

dont know about Kelly Clarkson but Common People by Pulp fits about every indie stereotype I can think of.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 10:39 (twenty years ago)

dan, your thoughts on dj'ing with real vinyl vs. dj'ing with Traktor or other computer-based software?

killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 11:28 (twenty years ago)

I played w/ Traktor once at home, it was pretty neat I guess. For me though, all that matters is that you can cue up a song, adjust the temp, and continue to adjust. With vinyl, for me this means scratching on a downbeat or something, letting go at the right time and pushing and pulling the record to adjust the tempo. I can do that with vinyl or with good CDJs like the Pioneer 800 or 1000, but cheaper CD players, where you pause it and it loops the note and you find the beat, I just hate. Likewise, I'm not sure how that works on traktor. Can you grab a playing song to pause it and let go at the right time? I can't imagine having the amoung of control i'd want with a trakpad. I had trackpads. I remember there being nudge buttons, equivalent to the pushing and pulling of a record, that's cool, and you just have to get used to it, I guess.

Telling you the tempo and locking it in isn't relevant, just try DJing with songs that have live drummers that speed up and slow down during the song. Only Ableton Live I think can handle that.

Are you talking about something where Traktor has different outputs so you can use the real mixer, or mixing in the computer? I don't think I'd be a big fan of mixing in the computer. So much of djing involves too many things to have to move 1 mouse pointer around. With you're left hand your manual speeding up or slowing down a turntable while with your right hand you're fading one up and the other down, that's 3 functions at once, how do you do that in the computer?

I'm ready to switch to CDJs...they have the feel of vinyl, which I like, but CDs don't weigh as much as records.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:04 (twenty years ago)

damn. uh... i guess i was wondering more about how receptive an audience is to computer-based vs. vinyl-based dj'ing. i'm not a dj myself, and i have no answers for any of YOUR questions. i've only played around in Traktor a few times, but my friend dj's a lot with just a laptop (using Traktor).

killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

I think any audience who cares is a little silly. It's funny people always come up to you and are like "wow, you're still playing records!".

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:36 (twenty years ago)

ha, i wondered if there was any kind of weird stigma against mp3 djs by "old-school" dudes. guess not in your case.

killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:46 (twenty years ago)

AFX uses traktor!

lord pooperton (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:05 (twenty years ago)

http://www.vhaudio.com/wire.html#vhspeaker

lord pooperton (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Since You've Been Gone by Kelly Clarkson
robble at Steve Shasta

-- jäxøñ (jaso...), Yesterday 10:28 PM. (jaxon)

dude, i first heard this 2 weeks ago! I am a pop-laggard.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

http://www.vhaudio.com/powercables.html

lord pooperton (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:30 (twenty years ago)

WHO WANTS A BODY MASSAGE?

I MEAN...

WHO WANTS A COUCH?

FREE COUCH.

Big. Brown. Corduroy. Totally vintage.

Someone has to come take it next week.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 24 June 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)

What fun stuff is happening in NYC tonight?

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

nothing for non-noizers K

Werner Herzog Netflix Quine (ex machina), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:50 (twenty years ago)


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