Thanos vs. Darkseid

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So ILC readers, which of the big baddy's who seem to have the same daddy do you think is the pinnacle of cosmic evil?

You don't have to vote just in a whose powers are better than whose powers (although the Infinity Gauntlet vs. the Anti-Life Equation is a pretty good matchup), but also take in part which character has been apart of the best comics.

Poll Results

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2. Darkseid 15
1. Thanos 6


earlnash, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 22:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Starlin has admitted the character is influenced by Jack Kirby's Darkseid:

“ Kirby had done the New Gods, which I thought was terrific. He was over at DC at the time. I came up with some things that were inspired by that. You'd think that Thanos was inspired by Darkseid, but that was not the case when I showed up. In my first Thanos drawings, if he looked like anybody, it was Metron. I had all these different gods and things I wanted to do, which became Thanos and the Titans. Roy Thomas took one look at the guy in the Metron-like chair and said : "Beef him up! If you're going to steal one of the New Gods, at least rip off Darkseid, the really good one!"[3] ”

earlnash, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 22:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Darkseid wears a mini skirt and stripper boots so he wins obv.

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 22:58 (five years ago) Permalink

visually darkseid's a lot cooler/scarier/weirder... though thanos was pretty creepy looking in his first appearance

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Darkseid pioneered the barcalounger villain. So him.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhzdxuiTnr1qi1pf3o1_500.jpg

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:57 (five years ago) Permalink

um yeah this was supposed to go here, not the forest swords thread

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/54697/1279212-x_bf1e990d.jpg

i'm just going to go sit over in the corner now

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 03:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Darkseid is better as an "ultimate bad guy" type of villain, but Thanos is more interesting as a character. I mean, Darkseid is pretty one-dimensional, he basically just wants to rule everything, because... he's evil? Or has he ever been given some characterization beyond that?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:12 (five years ago) Permalink

whereas Thanos is simply misunderstood?

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:31 (five years ago) Permalink

I agree with Tuomas - Darkseid is more fun (DIE FOR DARKSEID!) but Thanos is a little more fleshed out in terms of character motivations... tough choice for me

Nhex, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:49 (five years ago) Permalink

This would probably be a lot harder if Grant Morrison had written any Thanos.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:17 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/HLs9zjP.jpg

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:22 (five years ago) Permalink

thanos' codpiece looks uncomfortable as fuck in that panel

adam, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:33 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm guessing h4a's pic is from thanos' very first appearance, before starlin had got the codpiece dimension fully worked out

also, mongul:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dc/Mongulgibbson2.png/250px-Mongulgibbson2.png

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanos is a pale imitation/ripoff of Darkseid imho, who is probably the greatest comic villain ever bar maybe Galactus

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 15:46 (five years ago) Permalink

also, darth vader is a pale imitation/ripoff of Darkseid, not Thanos

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 15:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I looked at the 1st issue of that recent Thanos miniseries and it turns out he's a tough guy because...he was picked on as a child....? omfgwtfnooooo

Unless they added some more personality to him as that went on, I dunno...

cops on horse (WilliamC), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Best that we believe that THANOS mini series never happened.

And normally I care about *why* a character does stuff (specially if I'm writing it), but it's more interesting when they *do* stuff. Darkseid does a lot of stuff. Sure, Thanos does too. But Anti-Life is more horrifying than mere death.

Matt M., Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I was searching for 'Anti-Life Equation' on google after reading this thread and this stuff came up. Does ilx have a thread for unlikable internet marketing campaigns that re-tweet David Icke?

http://www.theantilife.com/

https://twitter.com/theantilifeuk

platonic beanie (Eight Model Play), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:41 (five years ago) Permalink

wtf is this

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:44 (five years ago) Permalink

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Politics - how it REALLY is. <a href="http://t.co/70pHNRSD5Y";>pic.twitter.com/70pHNRSD5Y</a></p>— THE ANTI LIFE (@theantilifeuk) <a href="https://twitter.com/theantilifeuk/statuses/370176011658600448";>August 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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platonic beanie (Eight Model Play), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:45 (five years ago) Permalink

bugger

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSMhHwcIcAAj_MK.jpg

platonic beanie (Eight Model Play), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:45 (five years ago) Permalink

literally

mh, Thursday, 29 August 2013 01:21 (five years ago) Permalink

"This would probably be a lot harder if Grant Morrison had written any Thanos."

― Andrew Farrell

I think you can say though that Jim Starlin's big Warlock/Captain Marvel/Thanos storyline is a pretty big influence on Grant Morrison's super hero comic writing. Morrison himself has said he was a big fan of those comics.

In some ways, Starlin's take on these kind of "cosmic" super hero tales is really the next generation on Kirby's mad scientist originator of kind of comic tale. Starlin also was one of the few creators that got to go back and do a second chapter on it when he went back and did The Infinity Gauntlet tied Thanos comics.

earlnash, Thursday, 29 August 2013 03:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I wish I liked starlins art more, I do love his acid-soaked vibe. Something about his and gulacy's art in the seventies just puts me right the hell off.

Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:52 (five years ago) Permalink

so many lovingly detailed renditions of feathered hair

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanos had a better smile, right?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:44 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm a Marvel Zombie and still had to vote for Darkseid, love Thanos but yeah, straight rip and here the original is best

H in Addis, Friday, 30 August 2013 04:40 (five years ago) Permalink

I really don't get what Darkseid's point is in the last panel. I think the cosmic joke escapes me too.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 30 August 2013 11:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Darkseid is the face of evil that lurks within us all, but the poor human can't abide it

Nhex, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh ok. That is funny.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 30 August 2013 13:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Darkseid is evil grandpa

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Cosmically formed joeks

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Life is a cosmic joke; ANTI-LIFE IS THE SOLUTION.

Nhex, Friday, 30 August 2013 17:51 (five years ago) Permalink

thank you for my next t-shirt slogan

Philip Nunez, Friday, 30 August 2013 17:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Does Darkseid spend a lot of time hanging around theme parks unnerving children and the elderly? Pretty evil.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 1 September 2013 00:01 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.progressiveruin.com/images/p415infind.jpg

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 1 September 2013 23:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 2 September 2013 00:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Too close.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 September 2013 03:53 (five years ago) Permalink

who the hell is #teamthanos

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 03:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I voted for Thanos. I've only read a few newer stories with both, but the fact that Geoff Johnns wrote the latest Darkseid-saga sealed the deal for me.

Frederik B, Monday, 2 September 2013 12:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Darkseid is an imposing presence in all his comics, but he really doesn't do as much as say Kronos, who is way more of a 'go-getter' in the actual plot of the comics. Darkseid is often always just sending out his lackeys to do the work then berating them because they are totally incompetent, that's way more of a middle management style for me.

earlnash, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

xp i dunno that seems like saying the punisher is a better character than spider man because of dan slott

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

btw, i've been reading the superior spider man from last year and hooboy dan slott is horrible

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I like Slott's She-Hulk series and his Avengers: The Initiative work, but yeah, I don't get the love for his Spidey run.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:38 (five years ago) Permalink

i do appreciate the fact that he made the cola competitor logo to mirror the marvel logo from the 90's

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

highlight of the run right there.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

xp i dunno that seems like saying the punisher is a better character than spider man because of dan slott

― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), 2. september 2013 19:29 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, my situation would be like only having read the slott spiderman and the rucka punisher, and yeah, i would vote for punisher. even though i know about leeditko and all that.

Frederik B, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm reading through the Avengers vs. Thanos 70s trade right now. It is interesting to read this story compiled this way, as I don't think I had ever read the Steve Gerber (w/Starlin) Daredevil issues that introduced Moon Dragon. This stuff had been compiled a couple of different ways over the years. I read it in the 80s with the Starlin Captain Marvel and Warlock baxter reprints and had the Marvel Two-In-One and the Avengers annual issue. This new trade puts the whole thing into a reading order. Really there is only 2 Avengers comic's in the collection Avengers 125 and Annual 7. The Avengers is guest stars in the Captain Marvel comics and show up in the Marvel Two-In-One issues.

earlnash, Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Infinity is getting a bit snoozy.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 20 September 2013 14:23 (five years ago) Permalink

lol

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

My God, I never realized that Thanos is nicked from Thanatos, which stories tell of Starlin getting way into his psychological concepts in the 70s, like Starfox is apparently Eros or some such.

Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Friday, 27 September 2013 08:19 (five years ago) Permalink

...

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 September 2013 16:34 (five years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

I am disappointed by how short and one-sided this thread is!

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 01:13 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Thanos needs to get hauled off by the NYPD and have his copter confiscated at the end of Infinity War.

http://media.comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/thanoscopter.jpg

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2dc0febdba50a9e6aa368cd56523dd0c.webp

jmm, Thursday, 26 April 2018 14:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

i don't think anyone can deny that having your name emblazoned on your personal helicopter is baller as fuck but damn thanos looks super-uncomfortable crammed into that cockpit

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 April 2018 14:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

Do you find something comical about his appearance when he is piloting his helicopter? Every super-villain needs to fly an aircraft, even the very large. That was the largest copter he could afford.

.38 Special K - 'Hold On Muesli' (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:05 (seven months ago) Permalink

I'd like (not) to see the gritty variation where Thanos grabs some airport mechanic by the throat and forces him to paint the name on the helicopter he decides to steal, then throws him to Hoboken.

WilliamC, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:33 (seven months ago) Permalink


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