Marvel Comics blabbery

I might read it just for more America Chavez punching adventures. But let's face it this will be canceled by issue 9

Immortal Hulk, y’all

I’ll probably dig it, but isn’t that the plot of X-statix?

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Yeah, I can’t imagine it will last long...

Hulk was cool. I prefer Al E like this, in non-cosmic mode. It’s heavy-handed, but heavy-handedness suits the glum horror mood. I think it would benefit from telling single-issue stories for a while, and save the world-building for the second year (and hopefully it lasts that long).

Belatedly caught up with the conclusion of the Jane Foster Thor saga ("The Mighty Thor" #706) – a nice wrap-up. Also read the one-shot epilogue that follows it ("The Mighty Thor: At the Gates of Valhalla").

Is anyone reading the new "Thor" series, with Odinson back in the role? Looks like there's been a few issues so far.

yup

he's dropped by Hel with his bros and there's a monster truck and a flying boat

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/whats-next-for-the-spider-man-universe-after-venom-exclusive-1202900203/

Some of Sony’s previously announced plans for Spider-Man and company are being reworked. Namely, the studio is scrapping “Silver & Black,” which was supposed to chronicle the team of Silver Sable, a mercenary who runs a company that hunts war criminals, and Black Cat, a burglar named Felicia Hardy. Instead, the characters will be in standalone films, the first of which will likely feature Black Cat.

Also — Silk would be cool; but Jackpot and Nightwatch? (admittedly, I’m not too familiar with either of them)

Will a Jessica Drew movie ever be even contemplated?

TBF, I thought it was just a stupid idea that would eventually get quashed, not a stupid idea that would become two stupid ideas.

They're making a Kraven film as well, now. WTF is Kraven even without Spider-Man. Who wants that. Who. WHO, SONY.

Venom is probably the one chance they have to make a successful Spider-Man-free Spider-Man movie. If it tanks, watch this entire slate get wiped out in one fell swoop.

I could see a standalone Silver Sable or Felicia Hardy movie being cool; they’re both interesting characters

Sure, but we're talking about big Hollywood movies that depend upon an audience's familiarity with the IP which are, thusly, doomed to failure.

I mean they could get a big star in the title role and pull off a 'RDJ as Iron Man' shockeroo but c'mon...this is Sony we're talking about here.

What, Old Lunch, you don't remember *digs through notes* when Nick Fury made a pre-Avengers version of the Avengers in popular title Avengers 1959 with Kraven included?

I’d watch Richard D. James as Iron Man!

reminder that any time you spend money on Marvel you are giving it to https://www.propublica.org/article/ike-perlmutter-bruce-moskowitz-marc-sherman-shadow-rulers-of-the-va

Eh, not really. AFAIK Perlmutter's been sidelined like a MF-er by Disney.

He's still the CEO. He gets his fair share of Marvel money.

I actually send his cut of the proceeds from any Marvel products I'd buy directly to Mar-a-Lago with a note marked "please apply to Ike's membership fees" and then pirate the comics online. To make sure the wrong people aren't getting any of my money.

He still dictates Marvel's one-bathroom-per-gender and no-backlist-of-books policies.

Is there a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g good happening / worth reading on the Marvel front at the moment?? I’m totally out of it.

The new Hulk book is good, and I like TNC's new Captain America - he's definitely improved since his terrible start on Black Panther. Aaron's Avengers comic is meh so far, annoyingly.

I'm inching eeeeever closer to the present day, caught up to the beginning of last year now. Shit got political, I see (particularly Waid's Champions, of what I've read thus far). I hope they kept it up.

I’m reading everything marvel published in 1975, month by month. I’m up to March. This really is THE way to read 70s marvel despite the time investment. I’m only ‘allowed’ to skip reprints. Ultimate goal is to complete 1975-1984 aka the original span of my time as a marvel kid.

(Obviously a friend with sick torrenting skills is involved in this opportunity)

In terms of volume, old-school Marvel seems to be the saner option wrt these hardcore reading projects. It took me less time to make my way through the entire silver age than it has for me to catch up on 2013-present.

1975 is at least 20% horror and 10% martial arts, I really love that fact. So many black and white mag titles! SO MANY DOUG MOENCH SCRIPTS PER MONTH! He must have been tweaking.

This is my favorite era of comics, the Marvel auteur "dreaded deadline doom" years before Shooter came in and fucked up the trains by making them run on time.

My favorite too. Five hippyish nerds who have all read lovecraft writing a whole comics company

Well more than five. Eight or nine.

I started Gerber's Defenders last week and it's just as odd as I could have hoped for

is there a good TPB of that...?

several times over the last few years I have idly considered attempting to read everything published by the DC and Marvel in the 70s but it would be too hard (and probably not worth it) to track down some stuff

All of Gerber's stuff was collected in the Essential Defenders volumes. All of the Essentials are technically out of print at this point, but some of them are still cheap on the secondary market.

There’s no way to do it without downloads, so much of this stuff was only printed the once.

Marvel Essential was overall a pretty decently complete reprint series of the 60s and 70s comics. It's as close as they ever came to reprinting the line. Nick Fury Agent of Shield is probably the biggest title they did not do at all in an Essential, although they did put it out in the Masterworks series.

I'd say if you want to get a few Essentials, look for the Warlock one. That is one of the best ones. They did a decent job reprinting some of the monster mag stuff in essential volumes too.

I hate those b&w reprints tho :(

They seem to be going all-in on the Epic collections. They release a couple a month and they're very quickly closing gaps in the as-yet-unreprinted old-school material (not to mention retreading Essentials ground, but now in color!). Unfortunately wrt this particular conversation, they've only put out a few volumes of post-Gerber Defenders thus far.

several times over the last few years I have idly considered attempting to read everything published by the DC and Marvel in the 70s

This would be an insane number of comics!

not as insane as the '80s or '00s

I'm sure you're right. I was trying to do the math for the 70s - say Marvel and DC brought out 50 comics/mags a month between them, that would be 600 comics a year, over 7,000 comics in a decade. Some of those would be reprint titles, but even so...

This is my favorite era of comics, the Marvel auteur "dreaded deadline doom" years before Shooter came in and fucked up the trains by making them run on time.

That Marvel Comics: The Untold Story book did a really good job of evoking that era and making it seem like Marvel's peak. Like a comics equivalent of the psychedelic-into-prog era.

^^^EXACTLY

I've gone back to the original Lee/Kirby/Ditko (?) issues of Incredible Hulk, prompted by the lettercols in Al's new (excellent!) Hulk comic.

The first issue is astoundingly fun and relatively light on dialogue for a Stan Lee comic. Highly recommended if you've got Unlimited.

Ditko co-created The Leader and Glenn Talbot, that alone is a big influence on the Hulk series. Might be a stretch to my memory of last reading them, but I think there was a bit more cold war paranoia in those issues too than the first ones.

Marvel needs to scrape out all those modern looks and finally get back to giving The Leader back his big head. I kinda like the later Sal Buscema flat top version, but he was the artist back when I was a kid on the Hulk.

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I like broccoli head Leader.

It’s funny to me how even the Leader isn’t intelligent enough to overcome male pattern baldness.

Might be a stretch to my memory of last reading them, but I think there was a bit more cold war paranoia in those issues too than the first ones.

There is a great cold war baddie in the very first issue. I groaned when I first saw him and thought it would derail the story, but then there's also an UNEXPECTED TWIST

the leader looks like such a doughy middle-aged sad sack in that panel earlnash posted

it’s like i’m looking in a mirror tbh

bg, stay calm, I'm calling emergency services 4 u because u should not be that color bro

exactly the kind of cloddish response i'd expect from an inferior mind such as yours