Marvel Comics blabbery

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Not really about anything, but CBR has a chat transcript with Marvel Editor Tom Brevoort and I snorted with laughter at this exchange, even though I don't know who Rocket Racer is.

Brad Curran: How about Rocket Racer? I'm in a shameless mood, so I'll ask if he's going to be in anything, too.

Tom Brevoort: I'm talking to somebody about Rocket Racer right now.

Cayman: Are you saying "don't ever mention Rocket Racer again if you want to keep working in this town?"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

A ZOOM A ZOOM ZOOM

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

cooooooool

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Marvel in the 70s = DC in the 50s.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

NB: I'm totally wrong.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

where is the goddamn DCU ipad app?

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:11 (eight years ago) link

I'll be surprised if they do an app soon. They just got around to making it non-flash.

I've been using it on the ipad through Safari and it's nice.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:13 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Do we really need a Deadly Hands of Kung Fu revival? It's only been 40 years since the last one...let's give it another 40 to really let the nostalgia build up.

WilliamC, Sunday, 4 May 2014 13:09 (six years ago) link

Will it feature Shang-Chi? Still waiting on a reprint of Master of Kung Fu, which I think has always been scuppered by rights issue to do with the Sax Rohmer characters.

Love some of the Neal Adams covers on DHOKF

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 4 May 2014 13:34 (six years ago) link

I liked Shang Chi as Moench wrote him, but Hickman making him a spaceship-piloting Avenger was a development so wrong-footed it's sort of put me off the entire company, except for Bendis' Miles Morales, Waid's Daredevil and Wilson's Ms. Marvel.

WilliamC, Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:13 (six years ago) link

I just don't get the love for Hickman (in some quarters), everything I've read by him has been a dreary mess with no real feel for Marvel history/characters/style. But I'm totally Team Bendis when it comes to the Avengers - the best run on the title since Englehart.

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:27 (six years ago) link

Manhattan Projects is very good, can't really speak for his Marvel work besides a few FF comics which were pretty seemed fun.

tsrobodo, Sunday, 4 May 2014 16:08 (six years ago) link

xxp -- I forgot to mention Soule & Pulido's She-Hulk, which is 1001% fun, and beautiful to look at. Hawkeye has good moments but it's inconsistent.

WilliamC, Friday, 9 May 2014 17:56 (six years ago) link

mmm pretty seemed fun

tsrobodo, Saturday, 10 May 2014 11:31 (six years ago) link

I really like East of West. It's one of the few comics I'm reading month to month anymore.

earlnash, Saturday, 10 May 2014 14:36 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

lol 1985

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br9h7WFCcAEo1fl.jpg

poor Groo :(

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 18:50 (six years ago) link

Groo back issues are hard to come by!

I dunno if I have any anymore but that was a great book.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 18:59 (six years ago) link

sales must have turned around at some point cuz it had a pretty long run (120 issues?!). I have fond memories of the storylines with his dog, who was even stupider than he was.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:00 (six years ago) link

yo man, Hama GI Joe was dope can't argue with that
i remember picking up Groo into the late 80s, it went forever

Nhex, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:12 (six years ago) link

these numbers are from may 85... groo's first marvel issue was march that year.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:22 (six years ago) link

ah that explains it

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:23 (six years ago) link

and yeah, groo was excellent.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:23 (six years ago) link

Looks as if Groo was the second-highest selling Epic title after the flagship anthology. That's not too shabby, really.

It's hard to imagine Marvel making so much of their bread off of adaptated properties nowadays. Everybody but them seems to have cornered that particular market of late.

The She's The Sheriff Mystery Hour (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 July 2014 20:08 (six years ago) link

Was the New Universe the first time Marvel attempted the alternate, self-contained universe of titles gambit...? Was there any precedent of a similar approach from DC? (DC was pretty explicit about the separate universes, but they didn't have entire titles devoted to alternate universes, did they? At least not until Vertigo?)

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:34 (six years ago) link

I think Marvel (copying 2000 AD and other sort of indie lines) was ahead of DC with Epic and OGNS and whatnot

Nhex, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:35 (six years ago) link

Kirby's Fourth World?

mh, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:36 (six years ago) link

that included Superman/Jimmy Olsen

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:40 (six years ago) link

Epic and OGNS titles weren't related to each other tho. What I mean is something like Ultimates or New Universe, where there was a series of titles that were related to one another, but totally separate from the "regular" continuity.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:41 (six years ago) link

like, DC didn't have a bunch of Earth-2 titles (right?)

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:42 (six years ago) link

There was All-Star Squadron and that's about it for Earth-2 ongoings.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:47 (six years ago) link

It was the first line produced by Marvel Comics utilizing a pre-conceived shared universe concept.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:49 (six years ago) link

I have a whole short box of nothing but groo. Can't even get at it rn (lol nyc) but I'm gonna wallow in them again someday.

how will the milf survive? (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 July 2014 23:04 (six years ago) link

yeah, groo was awesome

i loved groo as a kid. a bit sad that the collections available on amazon are a tad pricey.

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 06:29 (six years ago) link

Those figures are for postal subscriptions only, rather than newstand or comic book store sales

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:36 (six years ago) link

Collections were only ever four issues too iirc, they could have gotten the whole series out if Evanier had switched to fat 12-issue tomes

sales must have turned around at some point

subscription figures aren't necessarily exactly proportionate with newstand and direct sales anyway

i remember picking up Groo into the late 80s, it went forever

it's still going, the last series was in 2010 (and there's a Groo Vs Conan that was due in 2011, but Sergio's illness knocked it off track [and Sakai's family troubles probably aren't helping him speed through it rn])

Looks as if Groo was the second-highest selling Epic title after the flagship anthology. That's not too shabby, really.

can't possibly believe the Heavy Metal knockoff magazine sold more than Elektra

Was the New Universe the first time Marvel attempted the alternate, self-contained universe of titles gambit...? Was there any precedent of a similar approach from DC? (DC was pretty explicit about the separate universes, but they didn't have entire titles devoted to alternate universes, did they? At least not until Vertigo?)

Vertigo wasn't an alternate universe, it was a bunch of DCU and otherwise self-contained books

boney tassel (sic), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:39 (six years ago) link

Essential-style, phonebook Groo volumes wld be a winner, no?

Think Conan v Groo is finally coming out this year.

There was All-Star Squadron and that's about it for Earth-2 ongoings.

Before that there was an All Star Comics, also featuring the Earth-2 heroes, but since 'Flash of Two Worlds' DC have never exactly resisted crossovers between the two universes.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:54 (six years ago) link

Groo was the first American-style comic I read after a childhood of Tintin and Asterix and The Beano. Anecdotally - it felt like Mad and Groo were much more widely read than the superhero books - maybe a UK thing? There were copies in every newsagent - plus (anecdotally again) it was never just boys who read them.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:28 (six years ago) link

Groo was always tough to find in my area (NY), never seemed that popular around here. Probably because of the times (late 80s/early 90s). I was often surprised when I was able to find a copy

Nhex, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 13:48 (six years ago) link

I think I got into Mad magazine as a kid before most comics but never saw Groo on a newsstand and hardly ever in a comics shop.

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 13:58 (six years ago) link

Groo was dead easy to find in the UK, but I always suspected we mainly got the leftover comics that hadn't sold in the US

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:02 (six years ago) link

Nah. For quite a while, Marvel US would swap a 15 cent (or whatever) front cover price plate for a 10p cover price place at the end of a run of 'colour' comics, so the Marvel titles in newsagents etc were produced specifically for the UK market, although certain titles (eg The Avengers) that had British Marvel equivalents were 'non-distributed' (ie you could only get them as imports.)

http://www.comics.org/issue/1057795/cover/4/

By the time that the cover price included both a US and UK price, comics were distributed to UK specialist shops just a couple of days after they went on sale in America, so not 'leftovers' either.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:12 (six years ago) link

paper is heavy, I would imagine shipping comics overseas was at the bottom of their list of strategies

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:13 (six years ago) link

really? woah, I always imagined when I was reading Marvel obsessively (86-88) that they were imports... thanks for clearing that up, Ward.

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:27 (six years ago) link

As a kid, I was always fascinated with Marvel comics from the UK whenever some neighborhood kids got their hands on one (usually Action Force, IIRC). Those larger comics with the different paper stock felt like alien artifacts. Even later, non-tabloid stuff like Knights of Pendragon looked so much different from what I was used to (which was largely due to what I think might've been a completely different color process than what was standard in most US Marvel books at the time).

The She's The Sheriff Mystery Hour (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:38 (six years ago) link

I have mixed feelings on Kieron Gillen's recent Iron Man run, but using a couple Marvel UK characters (Death's Head and Dark Angel) was kind of entertaining

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:53 (six years ago) link

Stevie, I hope you won't mind if I make things a little clearer, still

The small, colour Marvel comics were always technically 'imports', in that they were printed and published in America. When Marvel comics were first imported to the UK, they would have a cents price on them and over that t UK price stamp, normally bearing a T&P insignia, which stood for the British distributors Thorpe and Porter Lrd. The comics were brought over to this country by sea mail.

At some point in the early 1970s, Marvel in America began to print a certain amount of their color comics with a UK pence price, rather than a cents price. This was done at the end of the printing process, a simple matter of swapping a printing plate, but it meant that UK pence copies traditionally have had shittier printing, more colour mis-alignment etc, which may have contributed to your impression that these comics were somehow 'leftovers'. They are generally deemed less collectible than the 'real' cents comics. But they were American Marvels, printed and published in the US and imported here.

Not every American Marvel title was officially distributed in the UK (these comics are known in British collector circles as 'ND' - not distributed - comics.) When the British Marvel titles kicked off in the 1970s, reprinting the American comics in larger size, black and white (or two colour) weekly editions, lots of the series featured in these UK Marvel titles - Spider-Man, Hulk, Avengers etc - were removed from UK distribution, so as not to distract from the UK sales, or confuse readers with stories from vastly different time periods. The only way for a UK reader to acquire these ND comics would be to subscribe, visit America, order them via a mail order dealer either at home or in America, or buy them from one a dedicated comic book store, like Dark They Were and Golden Eyed in London. Distribution of the Marvel Comics with British prices was always extremely patchy, but there's no evidence that any particular titles were 'dumped' on the UK market.

Again, at some point in the 1980s, Marvel began to print only one version of their American colour comics, with both an American and British (and Canadian) price on the front. These titles would be imported in large quantities by air to UK comic shops, typically going on sale just a couple of days after they went on sale in America. Or you could wait a month or so and buy pretty much every Marvel or DC as a slightly cheaper (cover) price, sea-freighted and officially distributed to newsagents and even comic shops.

Looking at a gallery of Groo covers, it seems that the first one with a joint US/UK price was issue 16, cover dated June 1986:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/groo-the-wanderer/16-1.jpg

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 20:18 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/4XnucnS.png

soref, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 22:01 (eleven months ago) link

I like that I can't tell from that semi-page if it's a Colon or Kyle issue

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 22:05 (eleven months ago) link

I thought the current Cantwell/Larocca Doctor Doom series was limited, got to issue #6 and realized it's ongoing. Awesome!

Nhex, Sunday, 29 March 2020 21:42 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

Immortal Hulk #33 / LGY # 750, "The Thoughtful Man". Oversized issue, they used the extra pages to have many many double page spreads of amazing grotesque. This series...

Nhex, Friday, 5 June 2020 23:32 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

marvel appears to be working with a partner on a kickstarter inspired premium line
https://marvelmade.net/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:08 (four months ago) link

That's actually not THAT terrible price for what you get, though I won't be throwing around that kind of scratch for one set
Interesting that it's by ReedPOP (the NYCC people and so on) and they tied in a bonus for being an Unlimited subscriber

Nhex, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:19 (four months ago) link

Exclusive new 20-page story by Chris Claremont & Salvador Larroca

Is there a more expensive offering where you don't get this

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:25 (four months ago) link

the internet

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:28 (four months ago) link

oh lol, i thought you meant JUST get that
no, these get distributed to your apple watch; you have no chance to survive, make your time

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:29 (four months ago) link

The lack of a proper collected edition of Claremont’s run remains pretty annoying/baffling. The only good attempt I’ve seen so far is the half size UK glossy versions

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 09:08 (four months ago) link

The Marvel Masterworks versions are all you need - includes the Wolverine series, God Loves Man Kills, Majik, and Kitty Pryde and Wolverine.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 15:26 (four months ago) link

All of the Claremont issues of the X-Men are collected in Essential X-Men 1-11 too

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:46 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I watched an episode of the Disney+ docuseries Marvel’s 616 that profiled two Spanish artists (Javier Garron and Natacha Bustos). Their stories were interesting, but the Marvel corporate folks were annoying, and the pace of the show was really slow; it felt like gauzy in-house Mouse House marketing (no surprise).

Anyway, I hoped it might address the question of why there are so many successful artists from Spain working in U.S. comics (I think I posed it a few years ago ITT); but no dice.

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Sunday, 22 November 2020 07:20 (three months ago) link

There’s an episode on women comics creators that looks interesting, tho I fear it may reverberate with the sound of Marvel patting itself on the back.

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Sunday, 22 November 2020 07:34 (three months ago) link

i dunno, so finding the loose, unfocused style enjoyable and not a hard marvel sell, but def not something i could see ppl not already invested in being fans off

H in Addis, Sunday, 22 November 2020 20:01 (three months ago) link

I tried watching that other episode, but it’s just sooo slooowwww...

Like, why not capture the zing & zest of comics at least a little bit?

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Monday, 23 November 2020 05:22 (three months ago) link

My kid’s watching the first episode, about the Japanese Spider-Man tv series from the ’70s... It’s actually pretty interesting.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 02:25 (two months ago) link

Just a note that the FF:Road Trip one-off from last week is worth checking out. Well-written (by Halt & Catch Fire guy Christopher Cantwell) and gruey and fun at the same time, a very "makes it look easy" sort of comic.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:33 (two months ago) link

Oh, that's how he's known? I've been digging his Doctor Doom ongoing, was wondering how he suddenly just started writing a bunch of mid-tier Marvel titles this year

Nhex, Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:54 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

from chip zdarsky, i lol'd

Marvel has decided to bring back Marvel Two-In-One with me as writer again, but this time the “Two” is talking heads and action and the “One” is the story. Will we be successful? Absolutely not, but I could really use the paycheck.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:53 (one month ago) link

I bought the first TPB collection of the new Spider-Woman series – it’s not good, just some origin retcon BS.

Meanwhile, I’m fleshing out my Kate Bishops via eBay before the Steinfeld Chronicles drives the prices of those up.

Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Thursday, 7 January 2021 00:34 (one month ago) link

i like zdarsky but wish his comics were as interesting and funny as his public personality

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 January 2021 11:25 (one month ago) link

like, as a writer, he's basically just a more-interesting charles soule

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 January 2021 11:25 (one month ago) link

I'm a steady fan from Sex Criminals and his Peter Parker, Spider-Man run. Will get around to reading Daredevil at some point

Nhex, Friday, 8 January 2021 13:24 (one month ago) link

oh, i think his artwork is great. i wish he'd be less dignified and more himself as a writer

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 January 2021 14:40 (one month ago) link

He wrote the Spider-Man run! Give it a shot, it's largely goofy fun Spidey-times. Mainly involving Pete's secret sister joining continuity and the big secret identity reveal to JJJ -> hijinx.

Nhex, Friday, 8 January 2021 14:53 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

There’s an episode on women comics creators that looks interesting, tho I fear it may reverberate with the sound of Marvel patting itself on the back.

I think the episode is really worth watching for long-time Marvel fans. Obviously the whole series is mostly uncritical of Marvel as a company, so you'll have to accept that, but this particular episode has interviews of people like Nocenti, Louise Simonson, and June Brigman, none of whom I've ever seen interviewed in a proper documentary. It has, among other things, a lovely scene of Nocenti and Simonson getting together and reminiscing on what it was like working in the male-dominated bullpen in the 1980s. Of course they also interview newer creators like G. Willow Wilson and Kelly Sue DeConnick too, but for me it was particularly touching to hear the stories the older generation of women, whose comics I grew up with, from the era before Marvel really started to diversify their roster.

In fact, all of the episodes of "Marvel's 616" are pretty well-made, and have a fairly varied approach to their subjects, so IMO the whole series is worth watching out. Another standout was the cosplay episode, they did a great job of finding a diverse group on interviewees, and showing how for them cosplay can be a way of positively affirming, for example, their queerness or Black identity.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 08:27 (one month ago) link

they’ve failed to notice spelling errors in the lettered dialogue, so.... I’m not surprised editorial didn’t catch it

mh, Thursday, 4 February 2021 13:46 (three weeks ago) link

he said that was a Cronenberg nod - what's it referring to?

Nhex, Thursday, 4 February 2021 13:58 (three weeks ago) link

the name of the store was Cronenberg, which people read as an intentional dig as a "jewish name"
lots of diamond district stores have stars of david and i could see "Jewery" done backwards as an honest if catastrophic mistake. if anybody put up any resistance on a recall my spidey sense would go off but i think this was just a particularly dumb error. I hope!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:12 (three weeks ago) link

oh lol. Cronenberg was misspelled too

Nhex, Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:16 (three weeks ago) link

xp I had a quick Google Street View drive-by (47th street, between 5th and 6th avenue) and couldn't see any - but then there's some artistic license in that the shops don't have anything much written on the windows, because it'd get in the way of the jewelry!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:47 (three weeks ago) link

i'll amend that to "less prominent stars of david;" i imagine part of why the "our bad" response wasn't taken entirely at face value is pushing that imagery is stereotypical in any case.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:51 (three weeks ago) link

you know, you watch Uncut Gems and try to do an unsubtle diamond merchant sketch and fuck it up three ways...

mh, Friday, 5 February 2021 01:39 (three weeks ago) link

Long piece on Marvel's history (I haven't read it yet) - https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/02/15/who-really-created-the-marvel-universe

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 16:49 (three weeks ago) link

Kim O'Connor read it so I didn't have to risk my blood pressure reading praise for R13sman

It's a really cogent and balanced explainer! Until the very end, where it's just like..... I genuinely don't know where to start pic.twitter.com/5ezJpZsIcL

— Kim O'Connor (@shallowbrigade) February 9, 2021

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:32 (three weeks ago) link

I didn't expect to see a former ILXor namechecked in that

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:35 (three weeks ago) link

so should I read his book?

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:44 (three weeks ago) link

hasn't Old Lunch also been reading Every Marvel Ever?

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:48 (three weeks ago) link

so should I read his book?

Still curious about Douglas' book, not about Abrah4m's.

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:52 (three weeks ago) link

Wolk is always good value, imo. Wish he would return to these parts.

I've been making the effort, morrisp (made it as far as the early '70s, and then started plowing through the daunting volume of the past eight years or so), but I do not have his fortitude/focus.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:57 (three weeks ago) link

The linked article is pretty decent though

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:03 (three weeks ago) link

Another article about the career of Lee, that takes AR's book as its only source, and repeatedly reads between the lines to tease out startling conclusions that Lee may have overstated his contributions, abilities, beliefs and creativity. Imagine the reviewer's potential shock if she'd consulted a second source!

https://newrepublic.com/article/161130/stan-lee-true-believer-marvel-comics-review

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 05:08 (two weeks ago) link

TwoMorrows put out a book recently called Stuf' Said! which chronologically plots Lee & Kirby interview snippets re: attribution.

https://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1513

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 05:32 (two weeks ago) link

I only noticed yesterday that ILX's very own Al Ewing has gotten a gig of writing Guardians of the Galaxy! Has anyone read it, is it good? Ewing + cosmic Marvel feels like the best possible combination to me, IMO his Ultimates run was the best thing he's done for the company.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 08:23 (two weeks ago) link

Immortal Hulk!

Nhex, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 12:32 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, that one is very good too, I just love the cosmic stuff more. I've never been that interested in occult themes, so the whole Satan thing he's doing there has left me cold, as good as the series is otherwise.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 12:38 (two weeks ago) link

he also writes SWORD iirc

mh, Thursday, 11 February 2021 00:49 (two weeks ago) link

We Only Find Them When They’re Dead is a good read btw

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:05 (two weeks ago) link


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