Marvel Comics blabbery

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Not really about anything, but CBR has a chat transcript with Marvel Editor Tom Brevoort and I snorted with laughter at this exchange, even though I don't know who Rocket Racer is.

Brad Curran: How about Rocket Racer? I'm in a shameless mood, so I'll ask if he's going to be in anything, too.

Tom Brevoort: I'm talking to somebody about Rocket Racer right now.

Cayman: Are you saying "don't ever mention Rocket Racer again if you want to keep working in this town?"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

A ZOOM A ZOOM ZOOM

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

cooooooool

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Marvel in the 70s = DC in the 50s.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

NB: I'm totally wrong.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

where is the goddamn DCU ipad app?

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:11 (eight years ago) link

I'll be surprised if they do an app soon. They just got around to making it non-flash.

I've been using it on the ipad through Safari and it's nice.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:13 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Do we really need a Deadly Hands of Kung Fu revival? It's only been 40 years since the last one...let's give it another 40 to really let the nostalgia build up.

WilliamC, Sunday, 4 May 2014 13:09 (seven years ago) link

Will it feature Shang-Chi? Still waiting on a reprint of Master of Kung Fu, which I think has always been scuppered by rights issue to do with the Sax Rohmer characters.

Love some of the Neal Adams covers on DHOKF

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 4 May 2014 13:34 (seven years ago) link

I liked Shang Chi as Moench wrote him, but Hickman making him a spaceship-piloting Avenger was a development so wrong-footed it's sort of put me off the entire company, except for Bendis' Miles Morales, Waid's Daredevil and Wilson's Ms. Marvel.

WilliamC, Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:13 (seven years ago) link

I just don't get the love for Hickman (in some quarters), everything I've read by him has been a dreary mess with no real feel for Marvel history/characters/style. But I'm totally Team Bendis when it comes to the Avengers - the best run on the title since Englehart.

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:27 (seven years ago) link

Manhattan Projects is very good, can't really speak for his Marvel work besides a few FF comics which were pretty seemed fun.

tsrobodo, Sunday, 4 May 2014 16:08 (seven years ago) link

xxp -- I forgot to mention Soule & Pulido's She-Hulk, which is 1001% fun, and beautiful to look at. Hawkeye has good moments but it's inconsistent.

WilliamC, Friday, 9 May 2014 17:56 (seven years ago) link

mmm pretty seemed fun

tsrobodo, Saturday, 10 May 2014 11:31 (seven years ago) link

I really like East of West. It's one of the few comics I'm reading month to month anymore.

earlnash, Saturday, 10 May 2014 14:36 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

lol 1985

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br9h7WFCcAEo1fl.jpg

poor Groo :(

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 18:50 (six years ago) link

Groo back issues are hard to come by!

I dunno if I have any anymore but that was a great book.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 18:59 (six years ago) link

sales must have turned around at some point cuz it had a pretty long run (120 issues?!). I have fond memories of the storylines with his dog, who was even stupider than he was.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:00 (six years ago) link

yo man, Hama GI Joe was dope can't argue with that
i remember picking up Groo into the late 80s, it went forever

Nhex, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:12 (six years ago) link

these numbers are from may 85... groo's first marvel issue was march that year.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:22 (six years ago) link

ah that explains it

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:23 (six years ago) link

and yeah, groo was excellent.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:23 (six years ago) link

Looks as if Groo was the second-highest selling Epic title after the flagship anthology. That's not too shabby, really.

It's hard to imagine Marvel making so much of their bread off of adaptated properties nowadays. Everybody but them seems to have cornered that particular market of late.

The She's The Sheriff Mystery Hour (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 July 2014 20:08 (six years ago) link

Was the New Universe the first time Marvel attempted the alternate, self-contained universe of titles gambit...? Was there any precedent of a similar approach from DC? (DC was pretty explicit about the separate universes, but they didn't have entire titles devoted to alternate universes, did they? At least not until Vertigo?)

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:34 (six years ago) link

I think Marvel (copying 2000 AD and other sort of indie lines) was ahead of DC with Epic and OGNS and whatnot

Nhex, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:35 (six years ago) link

Kirby's Fourth World?

mh, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:36 (six years ago) link

that included Superman/Jimmy Olsen

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:40 (six years ago) link

Epic and OGNS titles weren't related to each other tho. What I mean is something like Ultimates or New Universe, where there was a series of titles that were related to one another, but totally separate from the "regular" continuity.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:41 (six years ago) link

like, DC didn't have a bunch of Earth-2 titles (right?)

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:42 (six years ago) link

There was All-Star Squadron and that's about it for Earth-2 ongoings.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:47 (six years ago) link

It was the first line produced by Marvel Comics utilizing a pre-conceived shared universe concept.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:49 (six years ago) link

I have a whole short box of nothing but groo. Can't even get at it rn (lol nyc) but I'm gonna wallow in them again someday.

how will the milf survive? (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 July 2014 23:04 (six years ago) link

yeah, groo was awesome

i loved groo as a kid. a bit sad that the collections available on amazon are a tad pricey.

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 06:29 (six years ago) link

Those figures are for postal subscriptions only, rather than newstand or comic book store sales

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:36 (six years ago) link

Collections were only ever four issues too iirc, they could have gotten the whole series out if Evanier had switched to fat 12-issue tomes

sales must have turned around at some point

subscription figures aren't necessarily exactly proportionate with newstand and direct sales anyway

i remember picking up Groo into the late 80s, it went forever

it's still going, the last series was in 2010 (and there's a Groo Vs Conan that was due in 2011, but Sergio's illness knocked it off track [and Sakai's family troubles probably aren't helping him speed through it rn])

Looks as if Groo was the second-highest selling Epic title after the flagship anthology. That's not too shabby, really.

can't possibly believe the Heavy Metal knockoff magazine sold more than Elektra

Was the New Universe the first time Marvel attempted the alternate, self-contained universe of titles gambit...? Was there any precedent of a similar approach from DC? (DC was pretty explicit about the separate universes, but they didn't have entire titles devoted to alternate universes, did they? At least not until Vertigo?)

Vertigo wasn't an alternate universe, it was a bunch of DCU and otherwise self-contained books

boney tassel (sic), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:39 (six years ago) link

Essential-style, phonebook Groo volumes wld be a winner, no?

Think Conan v Groo is finally coming out this year.

There was All-Star Squadron and that's about it for Earth-2 ongoings.

Before that there was an All Star Comics, also featuring the Earth-2 heroes, but since 'Flash of Two Worlds' DC have never exactly resisted crossovers between the two universes.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:54 (six years ago) link

Groo was the first American-style comic I read after a childhood of Tintin and Asterix and The Beano. Anecdotally - it felt like Mad and Groo were much more widely read than the superhero books - maybe a UK thing? There were copies in every newsagent - plus (anecdotally again) it was never just boys who read them.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:28 (six years ago) link

Groo was always tough to find in my area (NY), never seemed that popular around here. Probably because of the times (late 80s/early 90s). I was often surprised when I was able to find a copy

Nhex, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 13:48 (six years ago) link

I think I got into Mad magazine as a kid before most comics but never saw Groo on a newsstand and hardly ever in a comics shop.

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 13:58 (six years ago) link

Groo was dead easy to find in the UK, but I always suspected we mainly got the leftover comics that hadn't sold in the US

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:02 (six years ago) link

Nah. For quite a while, Marvel US would swap a 15 cent (or whatever) front cover price plate for a 10p cover price place at the end of a run of 'colour' comics, so the Marvel titles in newsagents etc were produced specifically for the UK market, although certain titles (eg The Avengers) that had British Marvel equivalents were 'non-distributed' (ie you could only get them as imports.)

http://www.comics.org/issue/1057795/cover/4/

By the time that the cover price included both a US and UK price, comics were distributed to UK specialist shops just a couple of days after they went on sale in America, so not 'leftovers' either.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:12 (six years ago) link

paper is heavy, I would imagine shipping comics overseas was at the bottom of their list of strategies

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:13 (six years ago) link

really? woah, I always imagined when I was reading Marvel obsessively (86-88) that they were imports... thanks for clearing that up, Ward.

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:27 (six years ago) link

As a kid, I was always fascinated with Marvel comics from the UK whenever some neighborhood kids got their hands on one (usually Action Force, IIRC). Those larger comics with the different paper stock felt like alien artifacts. Even later, non-tabloid stuff like Knights of Pendragon looked so much different from what I was used to (which was largely due to what I think might've been a completely different color process than what was standard in most US Marvel books at the time).

The She's The Sheriff Mystery Hour (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:38 (six years ago) link

I have mixed feelings on Kieron Gillen's recent Iron Man run, but using a couple Marvel UK characters (Death's Head and Dark Angel) was kind of entertaining

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:53 (six years ago) link

Stevie, I hope you won't mind if I make things a little clearer, still

The small, colour Marvel comics were always technically 'imports', in that they were printed and published in America. When Marvel comics were first imported to the UK, they would have a cents price on them and over that t UK price stamp, normally bearing a T&P insignia, which stood for the British distributors Thorpe and Porter Lrd. The comics were brought over to this country by sea mail.

At some point in the early 1970s, Marvel in America began to print a certain amount of their color comics with a UK pence price, rather than a cents price. This was done at the end of the printing process, a simple matter of swapping a printing plate, but it meant that UK pence copies traditionally have had shittier printing, more colour mis-alignment etc, which may have contributed to your impression that these comics were somehow 'leftovers'. They are generally deemed less collectible than the 'real' cents comics. But they were American Marvels, printed and published in the US and imported here.

Not every American Marvel title was officially distributed in the UK (these comics are known in British collector circles as 'ND' - not distributed - comics.) When the British Marvel titles kicked off in the 1970s, reprinting the American comics in larger size, black and white (or two colour) weekly editions, lots of the series featured in these UK Marvel titles - Spider-Man, Hulk, Avengers etc - were removed from UK distribution, so as not to distract from the UK sales, or confuse readers with stories from vastly different time periods. The only way for a UK reader to acquire these ND comics would be to subscribe, visit America, order them via a mail order dealer either at home or in America, or buy them from one a dedicated comic book store, like Dark They Were and Golden Eyed in London. Distribution of the Marvel Comics with British prices was always extremely patchy, but there's no evidence that any particular titles were 'dumped' on the UK market.

Again, at some point in the 1980s, Marvel began to print only one version of their American colour comics, with both an American and British (and Canadian) price on the front. These titles would be imported in large quantities by air to UK comic shops, typically going on sale just a couple of days after they went on sale in America. Or you could wait a month or so and buy pretty much every Marvel or DC as a slightly cheaper (cover) price, sea-freighted and officially distributed to newsagents and even comic shops.

Looking at a gallery of Groo covers, it seems that the first one with a joint US/UK price was issue 16, cover dated June 1986:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/groo-the-wanderer/16-1.jpg

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 20:18 (six years ago) link

Thanks for the TPB sales info, Sic. Though I do feel global and online sales figures would be way more interesting than US bookstores sales only, because the "buying monthly floppies from your local comic book store" culture is still kinda prevalent in the US, I guess, whereas (as explained above) in many other countries getting floppies monthly might be prohibitevely expensive and/or difficult, and getting TPBs from the bookstore or an online retailer like Amazon is cheaper and easier, so I'm assuming TPBs sell better than floppies there (this is definitely the case in Finland).

AFAIK, Marvel still releases TPBs of almost new every series they publish? And some of the more popular ones get first printing in hardcover, and are later reissued in omnibus format, even if the TPBs themselves rarely reissued. So presumably there must be some profits to be made in TPBs and other collected editions, because why would they keep printing them so widely if there isn't? If the main point of publishing superhero comics were to keep the intellectual properties alive and to provide fodder for the movies and series, surely the floppies would be enough for that?

Tuomas, Monday, 29 March 2021 08:43 (one month ago) link

More profits to be made in TPBs than in the floppies, yes, because you've theoretically paid for the labour with the floppies, and spread that expense across several months while also recouping in sales and evaluating demand.

--

Good piece by Rob Salkowitz at ICV2 speculating on the reasons and benefits for Marvel to shift distributors: https://icv2.com/articles/columns/view/47974/whats-behind-marvels-move-prh

armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 09:32 (one month ago) link

And if no one buys the floppies, they might not even publish the trade, in theory. Though as Tuomas said Marvel collects almost every new series now, in the first year.
I wonder if Marvel Unlimited makes pure profit or loses money.

Nhex, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 15:28 (one month ago) link

And thx for that ICV2 article, sic

Nhex, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 15:39 (one month ago) link

James Romberger on the R13sman Stan Lee bio, from a Kirbyist perspective.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 18:52 (one month ago) link

More from ICV2: Griepp on PRPH's long-term plans.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 2 April 2021 21:23 (one month ago) link

I do think Marvel is probably leaving some cash on the table by not having some stuff that sells in continual print. Local shop stated that he about quit ordering back list trades from Diamond as they were shite for showing stuff in stock and never getting the stuff until like 13 weeks later.

Deal they SHOULD do is setup way that the guy can buy at the store and drop ship to their house and throw a few shillings to the local dude for making the order happen.

I think the smart idea that talking to my local shop owner is that he thinks the dudes in Image should put together their own indie distribution partnership, possibly tied to selling McFarlene's and others toy business and then become an indie distributor. Partner up with some people that know how to warehouse and ship stuff.

earlnash, Friday, 2 April 2021 21:53 (one month ago) link

on point 2: that's kind of the bookshop.org model right now, i think. kinda wish my LCS got in on that

Nhex, Friday, 2 April 2021 22:07 (one month ago) link

No one really wants to order comics from a bunch of different places - it's workable with trades but comics are a weekly order where subscriptions and special orders keep you alive. Too easy to miss ordering issue 3 because you got busy.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 3 April 2021 00:21 (one month ago) link

I just started reading the 2012 Matt Fraction / David Aja Hawkeye series, and hot damn it is good. (Bought Vol 1 waaaaaay back in 2013, never read it until now.) Surprisingly the trades seem to be out of print. Any chance or news that it'll be reprinted ahead of the Disney+ series coming out? Otherwise I'll just buy the omnibus for $25 digitally, but I'd rather own physical copies.

Nhex, Monday, 5 April 2021 03:42 (one month ago) link

I recently bought a nice copy of Vol. 3 (L.A. Woman) for $4.95 on eBay. You could try picking up the individual volumes that way, if you don’t mind remainders etc.

come along you starbucks lovers (taylor’s version) (morrisp), Monday, 5 April 2021 04:10 (one month ago) link

good point... i'll look on eBay as well. weirdly, vol. 2 seems to be the most rare/expensive volume out of the four.

Nhex, Monday, 5 April 2021 04:26 (one month ago) link

Surprisingly the trades seem to be out of print.

🤔

armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 5 April 2021 05:42 (one month ago) link

I'd guess that there's a good chance we get another reprint around when the show drops. Marvel is at least getting better at taking advantage of the release of big film and TV projects to push out related print material. We got two Black Widow Epic Collections last year, two Morbius Epics, they reprinted at least one of the old Vision and Scarlet Witch minis (it looks like the other collection might've been solicited and then either cancelled or delayed) plus a couple of related WCA Epics, and they have an omnibus of Rick Remender's Cap run (featuring Sam's first appearances as Cap) coming soon. You can generally expect a collection or two of something related, but given how closely related the Hawkeye show appears to be to Fraction's run, I'd be surprised if we didn't see a reprint of that specific material.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 April 2021 11:19 (one month ago) link

I wonder how much of an uptick in sales they see (in related print material) when these movies and shows come out.

come along you starbucks lovers (taylor’s version) (morrisp), Monday, 5 April 2021 14:48 (one month ago) link

#10 was the first Ta-Naheisi Coates Black Panther book from 2016; this sold 36,000 the year before when the movie was out, dropping to 7500 this year.

not the same female Captain Marvel so maybe unrelated

#4 was the first volume of Ms Marvel, from 2014. 11k sold.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:15 (one month ago) link

Definitely unrelated. Kamala Khan seems to be one of the few legit breakout Marvel superstars of the 21st Century (see also: Miles Morales).

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:01 (one month ago) link

Got me curious so I glimpsed the Diamond Top 100 from 2019. Infinity Gauntlet is the the obvious standout, but nothing else I saw from Marvel was a classic reprint, mostly brand new collections of 2018 material (Spider-Geddon, Life of Captain Marvel, Cosmic Ghost Rider) or disconnected from the MCU (House/Powers of X, Immortal Hulk).

Non-Marvel media tie-ins of note that showed up: The Boys omnibus reprints (Amazon show), Umbrella Academy trades (Netflix show), Joker (Azzarello/Bermejo) reprint (film), Deadly Class (SyFy show). So I believe the strategy likely does work, maybe Marvel's doing a crappy job at embracing it?

(this doesn't include bookstore sales, since it's Diamond, i assume)

Nhex, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:06 (one month ago) link

Marvel's reprint strategy seems haphazard at best, I will grant you. If you're anal like me and make sure that you preorder pretty much everything you want (and, perhaps more importantly, have a clear idea of what you want and how what you want is being collected), they do a pretty great job and seem serious about slowly reprinting as much of their material as possible. If you come at it from a more casual angle, I'm sure it's incredibly frustrating both to keep track of how things are being reprinted and to deal with the inevitable and ongoing OOP issue.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:12 (one month ago) link

good to know they’re still living in opposite world where casual readers who’d want to pick up a TPB are out of luck

I’d hazard a guess that they sell a fair number of TPBs to libraries? those few that still have a budget

mh, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:22 (one month ago) link

the Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel is definitely librarian bait! in a good way

mh, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:23 (one month ago) link

Definitely unrelated.

Right, though looks like Black Panther barely was too: 28k in 2018 without a movie, 36k with a movie. the Kamala Khan book sold 13k in 2018 (and, because Marvel, no other volumes charted in either year).

armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:35 (one month ago) link

xp Kamala K. was the first book I picked up when I got into nu-Marvel in the mid-2000s... it was getting significant mainstream / "general reader, check this out" press.

come along you starbucks lovers (taylor’s version) (morrisp), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:38 (one month ago) link

It was a pretty decent series but got derailed a lot by crossover events like Secret Wars and Civil War II

Nhex, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:41 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I read few books and then hit the Secret Wars wall. (I also couldn't really get into the teenage-focused content, but that's just me.)

come along you starbucks lovers (taylor’s version) (morrisp), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:44 (one month ago) link

Lolz

Do I really live in a universe where Ta-Nehisi Coates has written a Captain America comic featuring a parody of my ideas as part of the philosophy of the arch villain Red Skull? https://t.co/waFsAvWlfd

— Dr Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) April 6, 2021

groovypanda, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 12:43 (one month ago) link

oh no, he found out

mh, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 12:46 (one month ago) link

A guy published this blog post(I don’t get how he isolated the logos; did he redraw them?); Tom Orz popped into his Twitter, suggesting he credit the original designers.

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:20 (one month ago) link

it's not that hard to isolate text with solid borders using photoshop or any other software with a magnet selection tool

mh, Saturday, 17 April 2021 17:09 (one month ago) link

https://reaganray.com/img/blog/marvel-lettering/doctor-strange-3.jpg

From that post, this Doctor Strange logo from 1988 feels like it's homaging some TV show or movie logo from the same era, but I can't quite recall which one... Can anyone think of a logo similar to it?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 08:37 (three weeks ago) link

no, but I'd bet $7 that logo is by Todd Klein

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 09:48 (three weeks ago) link

Hmm. Klein pegs the then-recently-revealed movie Strange logo as based on his 1988 logo in this 2014 blog, buuut the original logo he shows looks more '90s to me.

This 1988 Marvel Doctor Strange #1 has the logo posted above, and the next movie logo was just released the other day, and looks like a very close adaptation of the (real) 1988 one.

That one only lasted four issues before being replaced with a riff on the 1970s logo; Klein's (other?) one is indeed from 1992, and came in on issue 62 of the '88 series.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 10:05 (three weeks ago) link

xxp Tuomas, I assume you're not thinking of the (current-day) Stranger Things logo(?)

smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 15:37 (three weeks ago) link

i love that logo and that era of doctor strange

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 16:54 (three weeks ago) link

https://i.redd.it/ciex4a8ta1vz.png

I can see it.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 21:40 (three weeks ago) link

Stranger Things titles are more of an homage to the typography of '80s horror paperback covers (and Stephen King specifically).

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 22:21 (three weeks ago) link

Right, I just wondered if the vague similarities (stacked script + "Strange") may have tripped T's neurons.

smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 22:23 (three weeks ago) link

Heavily dipped serifs, the dramatic, swooping cross-bar on the A, the Stranger Things letterforms look closer in height to the actually-tall Doctor Strange bcz of the high crossbar on the H - a lot of casual similarities, intentionality completely aside.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 22:33 (three weeks ago) link

Dr. Stranger

mh, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 22:36 (three weeks ago) link

Stranger Docts

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 23:22 (three weeks ago) link

I think comics logos are underappreciated, but that blog post doesn’t really do them justice… I feel like you need to see them full-size, on the actual covers, to really get the impact; not abstracted and isolated in tiny squares.

smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 02:41 (two weeks ago) link

Like the classic ASM logo (especially when accented with webbing) is one of the GOAT, but this anemic image hardly captures why:

https://reaganray.com/img/blog/marvel-lettering/spider-man-1.jpg

smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 02:43 (two weeks ago) link

agreed

Nhex, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 02:44 (two weeks ago) link

Got a bunch of TPBs of ImmorTAL Hulk and the current Marvel TPB is a thin and anaemic looking thing.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 05:48 (two weeks ago) link

technically speaking this isn't that similar but in terms of era and general vibe the Doctor Strange logo made me think of this:

https://tvseriesfinale.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/murder-she-wrote-e1513781745389.jpg

joygoat, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 12:52 (two weeks ago) link

The Doctor Strange logo looks like the sign for a fern bar in Dallas

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 29 April 2021 04:03 (two weeks ago) link

From a couple of weeks ago, Hibbs going long on the PRH situation and repurcussions:

But this is the crux of my fear: Diamond, on the face of it, would not seem to be able to pivot to a more modern GN distribution business structure now that they’ve lost the majority of their volume, and the reasons that most DM retailers had to deal with them. They could have, once – but now it’s probably too late. While Steve and his team are smart, and conceptually Steve has resources that could be liquidated to keep things going for a while, it is very hard for me to see where the payout can possibly be. We know what happens to a distributor who loses both Marvel and DC’s business, and have Image comics as their largest exclusive vendor...

ultimately my biggest fear is that the vanguard of independence for making comics, the ability of a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or a Bone or even a Walking Dead to rise up “out of nowhere” and to build that periodical behemoth which then allows indy creators to leverage the book format, is about to be severely tested, and perhaps entirely lost. And while people will find a way to make comics –of course they will –the likeliest result is going to be that comics will start to pay a lot less for creators as a general class, and comics will get “safer” and less experimental as even more corporate control is consolidated. I’d rather that Eastman & Laird or Jeff Smith or Robert Kirkman & co are the ones who get to reap the rewards nstead of giant multi-national corporations – and this has always been the greatest promise as well as the greatest gift of the Direct Market.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 2 May 2021 00:58 (two weeks ago) link

I kinda get what he's saying, but... thankfully, many young creators aren't waiting for a big publisher to print floppies for them anymore and see (or have been forced to find) the other outlets available.

Nhex, Sunday, 2 May 2021 03:36 (two weeks ago) link

His three examples are 37, 30, and 18 years old. Utterly irrelevant to the current market.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 2 May 2021 04:05 (two weeks ago) link

As someone who thinks well-printed, well-designed comics are the ideal presentation for the medium, I wish that a retail infrastructure for them will continue to exist.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 2 May 2021 04:15 (two weeks ago) link


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