The ILC Favourite Characters Of All Time

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OK, the votes are in, the spreadsheet is filled, time for the results. I'll be counting down from #60, starting later today.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 22 August 2005 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link


mark s (mark s), Monday, 22 August 2005 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link

60. Opus (Bloom County)

We didn't get a positive comment about Opus but he got two! hate votes, one of them reproduced below...

Berke Breathed is the most overrated cartoonist of the last thirty years. Whatever he didn't pinch from Garry Trudeau, he stole from Charles Schulz (the long-running story of Opus's search for his missing mother was a direct rip from “Peanuts,” though while Schulz’s strips on the theme had a tragic, hopeless undercurrent, Breathed’s were all too obviously designed to elicit sympathy from the reader) – and that didn't stop him from sneering about Schulz's sad decline, nor from boasting of his own ignorance of the form. Opus was an appealing character, but Breathed seemed to have no idea who he was, saddling him with so many pointless pop-culture wisecracks that he became all but indistinguishable from any other smug, wisecracking cartoon animal. [JD]

Best Moment: Over to you!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 22 August 2005 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

We want scores!

I'm sort of baffled about Opus, he wasn't so much a character as a walking cypher. His thing was that he didn't understand bits of society, so they were explained to him in ways that made them seem hilarious. Later changed his name to John Bird.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 22 August 2005 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom, if you want blurbs for the characters I vote, e-mail me or something. I'd be glad to write them, but I don't want to do it for nothing, if the particular character don't show up on the list.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 22 August 2005 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link


Tom (Groke), Monday, 22 August 2005 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't send any comments, but will be glad to provide them in this thread as results become known. That said, I have nothing to say about Marmaduke, and JD's pretty much got my thoughts on Opus and Breathed covered.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

(Marmaduke actually didn't come 61st)

Tom (Groke), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link

(I thought that was Scooby doo - duhhhhhhhhh)

Mark C (Markco), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link


mark s (mark s), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom, I e-mailed you. I'll send the other blurb later on.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

tom if you need comments for marmaduke whenever we get to the top 3 let me know.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

mark s is a star

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Tuomas' offer seconded.

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, same here. I wrote some stuff but it was rushed and...well, I didn't know it was supposed to be written in this kind of "mini-essay/blog post" format.

iodine (iodine), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link


anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm really kind of excited about this poll cos i have no idea who's going to be ranked where! i assume that batman will probably be top 10 (haha i didn't vote for him), but apart from that i can't imagine how it'll end up.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Captain Haddock surely in the top ten?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link

haddock places 8th, six spots behind the duke

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

There is the thing where if Tom is waiting for everyone to revise their comments, this will never ever finish.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link

58=. Corto Maltese (Corto Maltese)

Corto Maltese is as much a traditional adventure hero as the stories starring him are traditional historical adventures. Each new Corto Maltese comic finds this shipless sea captain in a different part of the world, getting entangled in a web of colourful characters and occurences. More often than not, however, he doesn't seek adventure or thrills - things just happen to him. A bit of a melancholic, Corto doesn't divide people into good and bad; to him, they're either sympathetic or unsympathetic. This is the reason he stays friends with the vile-but-loyal Rasputin, even though he often feels like killing him. Corto is enough of a realist not to think he can change things in the long run, but not enough of a cynic to have stopped caring. He's not a heroic figure, but situations he faces often force him to do good deeds. One thing that rarely comes across him is love, and he seems quite careful not to even think about it. But we do get a few glances into this side of him, and they reveal Corto to be a romantic at heart. This probably is his greatest tragedy: love, like everything else, happens to Corto without him having too much say in the run of things. It seems the circumstances are always against him, and he's fate is to always wander ahead, never making home anywhere. Not because he wants to run away, but because he seems to exist in a flow. That is the only way for him to be. (Tuomas)

Greatest Moment: over to you!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link

58=. Roy Race (Roy of the Rovers)

Just for his achievements! He has won everything as a player and a manager. (Pete Baran)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder if Corto and Roy ever met on one of Melchester's European campaigns.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

About Corto's greatest moments: if there was a vote for greatest friendships in comics, the one between him and Rasputin should be in the top 5. Probably my favourite moment in the whole series is in the Samarkand adventure, where, in the middle of an armed battle, Corto and Rasputin suddenly start dancing! Corto then says, "We're a bit mad, aren't we?", and Rasputin replies, "No, we're just good dancers!".

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that RotR cover by Dave Gibbons? All of the people have that trademark Dave Gibbons Look®.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

#57. Martian Manhunter (JLI, JLA, etc.)

He's big. He's green. He's the smartest guy in the room. He hates clothing. (Huk-L)

Perhaps the greatest DC character never to have gotten any sort of fame with a solo series whatsoever? I prefer him to Superman, really (no offense to big blue): a predilection for oreos is a lot more interesting coming from a totally alien creature than it would be coming from a Kansas farm-boy, and having your home planet’s civilization destroyed when you were a baby doesn’t quite hold up to witnessing the whole deal when you’re a married adult. (Daniel Rf)

it still seems like he is full of secrets after however many years of comics (Jordan)

Greatest Moment: DC: The New Frontier

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the Roy of the Rovers cover is pretty scary... Hairstyle aside, everyone in it has exactly the same face and the same evil eyes. It looks kinda like the Come to Daddy cover. Is Roy leading a team of clones?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link

#56. Guy Gardner - Giffen/DeMatteis Version (JLI)

In the sitcom set-up of the JLI, Guy Gardner's role was clear: the dick. The asshole. The bad guy. The one you love to hate. He fulfilled this role very well, but he wouldn't have made this poll just for that - Giffen and DeMatteis kept the character fresh and made him far more appealing by introducing the 'lobotomised' happy-happy Gardner and then by giving him an unlikely relationship with Ice. That was when the character really got going: the situation of a sleazy guy trying to get into the pants of a nice girl is familiar from comedies, but not from superhero comics. It provided a lot of the funniest JLI issues, but it's also a good example of how that comic could expand the emotional range of spandex books without making a big fuss about it.

After the glory years Guy slipped back into being a knob, and then being a macho knob played for applause rather than chuckles, and then an embarassing stint as a living weapon and barkeep. Now a shadow of his former self, he props up the cast of the new Green Lantern book.

Greatest Moment: The covers of JLI #18 and #19 (which I didn't find, sorry Huk!)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

And some of them are clearly pirates too! (The two on the right).

Roy Races Finest Moment was surely winning the European Cup as Manager, CHairman and his son captaining the team, AND THEN coming on to score the winning goal when his son was brutally taken out of the game by the evil Italian team.

And then doing something similar three years later. And being relegated to the conference in the meantime due to an arcane FA rule

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Always trust a website called JLI covers for all your JLI cover getting needs.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link

#55. Spider-Man - Dan Slott Version

As Pete put it in his comments, "a fun version". The essence of Spidey's character is that he's a nice, funny, kind of dorky guy - what defines him isn't the angst, it's how he copes with it. Dan Slott prefers the Spider-Man who slaps his forehead and says "Oh BRO-therr" to the one who clenches his fists and howls at the rain-soaked world. That said...

Greatest Moment: Slott [in SPIDER-MAN/HUMAN TORCH] sums up the tragic core of Spidey in five words. Torch says that Spidey should take a holiday. Spidey replies: "No. I can't stop. Ever." (Al)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the humang torch's asbestos pants. If they were a character in themselves, I would have voted for them.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't vote for the DSSM, but I nominated him. I kinda decided that since I haven't really read any other Spider-Man comics in 20 years, I maybe didn't have the most informed opinion. But to me, the Dan Slot Spidey was basically the same guy from the 60s cartoon. Sassy, friendly (like a neighbourhood), and yeah, dorky. I can identify with that.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Will there be scores for the later results, so we can see grown men (and women) lamenting that their votes could have given Wulf Sternhammer the crucial edge against Darkseid?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, scores from #50 up, we're still in the sort of prequel stage now but I knew I had to get Roy Race in there.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I should mention that I missed #2 when selecting my greatest moment.

Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a good picture of the next one on my home PC but there was a power cut last night, hence the delay. One must get these things just so, eh?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I will also offer my services, such as they are, for the purpose of providing blurbs on suckers for whom I voted.

Leeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Can we have more, please?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 29 August 2005 08:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes! (Only one more, sorry, I left the spreadsheet at work)

#54. Acid Archie (Zenith)

Grant Morrison's Zenith Book 3, published in 1990 in 2000AD re-introduced and revived a vast number of old UK comics heroes (many of whom are getting more boring treatment in Albion right now). One of them was Robot Archie, who had fought crime in the 60s. Robot Archie, like the original Iron Man, had a particularly clunky, yet appealing design, very much a pulp idea of what a robot would look like. Morrison kept the look intact for Zenith but painted a smiley face on and renamed him Acid Archie, creating a raving robotic hero who fit 100% with the times and would stick in the memory of all 2000AD readers way beyond any actual contributions he made to the storyline.

Greatest Moment: There in the picture you can see that he's tamed a war dinosaur and painted a big flower on it. But his finest moment is his introduction. Pop star superhero Zenith is arguing with his agent, hears a knock at the door, opens it and there, out of nowhere, is a giant robot with a smiley on its head who barges into his flat shouting "SPEED SPEED ECSTASY". The 90s had arrived.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 August 2005 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Lovely to see that the dinosaur picture counted as a cliffhanger.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 29 August 2005 09:39 (eighteen years ago) link

that's a very fierce looking dinosaur.

I like original Robot Archie as well, and probably would not be so fond of Acid Archie were it not for original Robot Archie.

I like the fact that Robot Archie has "Robot" in his name, as an aid to the hard of thinking.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 29 August 2005 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it is homeric

mark s (mark s), Monday, 29 August 2005 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Please, sir, can I have another?

Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

#53. Manhog (Frank, Jim)

In Jim Woodring's curious dream-universe the bestial Manhog seems to represent our most venal, pitiful, greedy and stupid instincts. He is repulsive, but also often a victim, and not entirely without sympathy. The pained, desperate expressions on Manhog's face as he fails each time to understand or cope with his situation are some of Woodring's most powerful images.

Greatest Moment: Over to you!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 1 September 2005 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link

#52. Mo (Dykes To Watch Out For)

To be frank, I'm not sure why of all the Dykes to Watch Out For characters I chose to nominate Mo; in a comic filled with colourful characters she's probably the least colourful. She's as stereotypical as a lesbian (in a lesbian-themed comic) can be: an angry feminist, left-wing, masculine-looking, a vegetarian, has cats. But one shouldn't always scare away from sterotypes, since many lesbians really are like that. It's up to the other characters to fill the spectrum, and, like Tintin in Tintin, she's the centre that holds the spectrum together. Unlike Tintin though, she isn't an empty signifier - we can relate to her, and maybe that's exactly because of her plainness. (Tuomas)

Greatest Moment: Over to you!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 1 September 2005 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, Manhog! The reason I nominated him over Frank in the first place was his placement right on the brink of victim and villain. He's pretty much a bottomless pit of want, and has an equally limitless capacity for sufferring. I first encountered Manhog in the first Jim Woodring comic I ever saw: "Manhog Beyond the Face" where a self-inflicted blow to the head causes terrible hallucinations and tragic misunderstandings. Very atypically for a Woodring strip, it includes narration along with the pantomime, an experiment in formal qualities which is put to brilliant use in the hugely disturbing 'little chrome leg' sequence. Which, in turn is Manhog's greatest, or at least most memorable for me, moment.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 1 September 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Manhog Beyond the Face; the sequence I'm talking about happens on pages 5, 6 & 7.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 1 September 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Mo's stereotypical lesbianism is her biggest flaw, or at least it is in some of the strips -- she seems to often be movivated by a sense of "what is expected" of her. She is a lesbian, lesbians have crop cut hair, therefore she will have crop cut hair.

I can't think of any good examples of where this has completely backfired for her, since it's been a while since I've read the strip. But this is a common theme among gays and lesbians (who often go through a period of "well I'm gay so I'd better buy some Madonna CDs!" which sometimes NEVER ENDS ARGGH) and of course among the non-gays and -lesbians out there too.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 2 September 2005 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link

It's online

Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm waaaaay too drunk to read all of that but it's rather well cartooned! the drawing's okay not great but the pacing and the delivery of the polemic is very good.

occasional mongrel (kit brash), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 09:27 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost - you've got the wrong guy there, DV.

I don't follow you.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link

You posted Tintin, but Captain Haddock was the third LOSER.

Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 12:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks, Ray! I read "Breaking Free" while sitting on the floor of a bookstore about 18 years ago - shoulda bought it then.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 12:28 (sixteen years ago) link

3. Buddy Bradley (Hate)

(204 points)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. Hate the comic is so great because its terrific laffs hide some pretty harsh stories (is there a more shocking comics death than…but some of you might not have read it yet). Similarly Buddy Bradley is a great character because unlike most 'comedy' comics figures - and even most TV sitcom ones - he ages and grows and makes familiar compromises, and while he still makes some really stupid decisions, over the course of the comic he gradually learns to be less of an asshole. The core readership who hit on the comic when it was basically a grunge-era Freak Brothers ( i.e. fucking hilarious) grumbled about this but there are golden Buddy scenes in almost every issue - the episode with the "U2 tickets" and the internet chatroom, for instance. I've not caught up on any of Bagge's stories since the main Hate comic ended, so I don't know how he's evolved Buddy further, but certainly in my 20s he was the most recognisable - and ultimately, sympathetic - character I'd ever read. (Tom)

greatest moment: Good God. If I had to pick one, possibly the time he attacks Val's dinner party. Either that or the 'date' issue. (Vic Fluro)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 12:30 (sixteen years ago) link

To my shame and bemusement, I have never heard of this character.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm quite flabbergasted about this result, but happy too - "Hate" rules!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, the issue with him and Lisa spending a totally unproductive day at the house...

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Never read Hate.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

It's nice to see Buddy get so high, I don't think Hate scored as well in the other poll. But yeah, he is one of the best rounded characters in indie comics, the oh-so-recognizable cynical loser who's ultimately too nice to be a total asshole.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Having followed Buddy, he's now living in a junkyard with Lisa and the baby and has shaved off all of his hair. He restricts himself to gentle yearly adventures which seem to suit the lifestyles of his aging creator and fans - frankly, at this point we're just checking in on him to make sure he's not dead, as the high point of each 'HATE Annual' is always the frenetic adventures of Bat Boy. Still, I'll feel cheated if I can't read about a grumbling old man Buddy someday.

Vic F (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually haven't reread my old issues of Hate in years and years--probably time to pull out the TPB collections, at least. The first half-dozen issues or so were amazing at the time, though. Totally nailed the early-'90s subcultural aesthetic.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

The black & white years are even more amazing now because of the depth that they gain on looking back - after buying the Buddy Does Seattle collection last year and being swept away again by the characters and the hilarity and the sadness and the nastiness and the OTMness (Bagge is Crumb's successor not just of Weirdo editorship but also being comics' best satirist of a scene while it was happening: although unlike Crumb, despite being a decade older looking at the ridiculous behavior and interests of his milieu, Bagge's absence of misanthropy makes it all feel totally lived) I had to dig out the issues to read through the Return To Jersey years again, not wanting to wait until they're collected.

Just as well too, since they're stripping the colour for the bok.

occasional mongrel (kit brash), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:32 (sixteen years ago) link

2. Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)

(276 points)

All the characters in Peanuts had simple, well-defined
personalities, which they were unlikely to stray from
(except for Snoopy), but Bill Watterson's Calvin has
some of the weird contradictions of a real person:
he's at once precocious and bratty, a complete cynic
and a total innocent, a gleeful would-be scam artist
and a solitary, sensitive kid who worries about global

The only regularly funny strip cartoon (Pete)

Calvin ruined me. Rereading Watterson's oeuvre, I am constantly reminded that damn near each and every one of my character flaws and antisocial tendencies can be put down to me trying to cop Calvin's style. This goes from inventing superhero scenarios in my struggles not to shower as a kid to more current concerns such as grumpiness, flippancy and an obscene pride in forsaking any sort of social and/or physical activity in favour of vegetating in front of the TV. At this stage it's impossible to determine how much of it was personality overlap and how much conscious emulation, of course – either way, Calvin remains the most relatable kid character of all time to me. (Daniel Reifferscheid)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the Top 5 in reverse order really:

Worship Maggie
Adore Captain H
Love Buddy
Like Calvin
and the No.1 is a bit meh.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

1. Marmaduke (Marmaduke)

I just changed my name, or I'd switch up to "Marmaduke is Being Cock-Blocked." (Austin Still)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Perfectly timed.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

(oh alright)

1. Batman (Batman etc.)

(294 points)

Special extended "what were we thinking?" edition!

Dude, it's Batman. From the benevolent father-figure who foils Joker's boners and Adam West's paunch to Frank Miller's obsessive fascist and Kelley Jones's gothic demon, Batman is all bat-things to all bat-people. (Huk-L)

I think Batman is a character that no one creator or creative team has ever gotten completely right since the first few Bob Kane stories. (Until the Nolan movie, maybe.) Kane started introducing costumed villains almost immediately, and DC settled the character into a comfy routine of superheroics — a little goofier goofier in the 50s, more serious in the 70s. Even Miller's Dark Knight carried "angry dad" baggage that undercut the character's basis in guilt and terror as the ultimate motivators. Cumulatively, 65+ years of failed mentorships, failed friendships, failed romantic relationships and thousands of small victories against Joe-Chill-substitutes have created comics' greatest somewhat-heroic protagonist. (Rock Hardy)

WHY? HE'S BATMAN! (Leeeee)

Batman's a bit overplayed at the moment, let's face it. And the current iteration is one of the most boring, unloveable and pretentious characters to be found in comics. But there was a time when he was exciting and fun and he did manage to enslave the entire world with a TV show in the sixties so his current nauseating self is propped up somewhat. (Vic Fluro)

Greatest moments:

From DKR, where he reveals to the Mutant 'banger that he's not in any position to negotiate. (Leeeee)

"Criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot" (David A Simpson)

Batman used to give whodunnit speeches – "Here's how I deduced the real culprit!" His first meeting with Ra's Al Ghul has perhaps the definitive one of these – Batman paces the floor of a himalayan hideout with a wonderfully smug irritation, hands gesticulating operatically as he delivers a bravura speech, belittling the assorted henchmen, chiding Ra's and shooting off the occasional dry quip. Finally, he says "I'm tired of talking! Ready, Robin?" And the two of them quickly mop the floor with the lot of them in a swashbuckling fight. Classic stuff from the days when Batman behaved a bit more like Sherlock Holmes crossed with Zorro and a bit less like Mr Furious with Asperger's. (Vic Fluro)

"Stephen Hawking!" (me)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Stupendous Man would so kick his ass.

Ray (Ray), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link

when is Batman: Year 101 coming out?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Batman always wins, he just needs time to prepare. in this case 15 months.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Shall we close the board now?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

It looks like, the closer we get to the top spot, the more "auteurist" characters there are (i.e. characters who've always been done by one creator/team), though Batman of course is the main exception.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I believe that from now on, whenever anyone asks me "what four people from all of history and literature would you like for dinner guests?" my reply will always be Maggie, Haddock, Buddy and Calvin.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I've always preferred Hobbes to Calvin.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Not Batman?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

That's like saying you prefer Harvey to James Stewart, or Ida Know to Jeffy!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm trying to have a good time here! You think Batman knows how to party?

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link


Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link


Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I have a theory that Batman has NO TASTE at all. Like not just BAD TASTE, but no taste. Because he's so wholly devoted himself to crimefightery, he's completely sublimated art/music/whatever appreciation. SURE he understands stuff on an intellectual level, and can WEAR taste when he needs to (especially as Bruce Wayne), but it's mere posturing, because as long as there's kids being orphaned in the streets of Gotham, Batman won't dance.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

that's Batman of the post-Miller era, btw

xxpost, have you never seen Adam West, Tuomas?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmm, yeah, I like that notion. One of Alfred's main functions is to pick his clothes out for him and buy the artwork for Stately Wayne Manor.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

That would explain him at a Roy Lichtenstein retrospective, anyway.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 23 November 2006 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Hrm. Cubism.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 23 November 2006 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I'd like to publically apologise for killing ILX dead as Superman by finishing this.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link


Tom (Groke), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

bump in case anyone wanted to know the winners

chaki, Friday, 24 August 2007 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

chap, Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Rather boring list. Japan is represented by one character, Europe (outside 2000AD) by two. And who the hell puts two characters from Preacher on a top 50 list, and neither of them is Cassidy?! Jesse Custer was like the most boring character in the whole comic, the Tintin of his own book.

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, Jesse and Cassidy are pretty much like Tintin and Haddock, right?

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

RIP Mona Lisa Ludatits ;_;

HI DERE, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

The really striking thing about the list is its complete avoidance of kids' characters (obviously, yes, a lot of the ones featured weren't meant for adults originally).

Groke, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not clicking 50 times to read that whole list.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Superhero day jobs.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, Jesse and Cassidy are pretty much like Tintin and Haddock, right?

t-bomb from Tuomas!

energy flash gordon, Thursday, 10 July 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

no idea this happened, due for a refresh during covid imo

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

The Creeper
The Lizard
Green Goblin
Ghost Rider
Dr Haunt
Winnie The Witch
Mr L. Dedd
Mr Bones
Uncle Creepy
Cousin Eerie
Crypt Keeper
Old Witch (sorry, no Vault Keeper)
Dr Death
Lady Death
Chicken George

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 5 July 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

The Hulk

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 5 July 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

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